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Postby Afroasiatis » Thu Dec 03, 2009 5:45 pm

Expatkiwi wrote:Bottom line though is that partition formalization will end the problem and lay open the door for reconciliation later on.


Perhaps yes, perhaps no. If you look at Greece and Turkey, they also tried to solve their problems through partition and exchange of populations, but even after a century they still have serious problems with each other and they even almost went into war in some occasions.

The best solution, which gives the best chances for reconciliation, is the reunification.
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Postby Expatkiwi » Thu Dec 03, 2009 6:02 pm

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Expatkiwi wrote:Bottom line though is that partition formalization will end the problem and lay open the door for reconciliation later on.


Perhaps yes, perhaps no. If you look at Greece and Turkey, they also tried to solve their problems through partition and exchange of populations, but even after a century they still have serious problems with each other and they even almost went into war in some occasions.

The best solution, which gives the best chances for reconciliation, is the reunification.


The problem though is that there is no agreement on how such reunification should go.
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Postby paliometoxo » Thu Dec 03, 2009 6:21 pm

it would also solve the problem in turkey if they gave kurdish half of turkey... but no thats not acceptable. its not even acceptable for their minority to breath have their language taught in schools nothing.. but why? because they are nto turkish? only a turk minority has to be given the world while their minority is spat on.

when turkey gives kurds half of turkey we will give up part of our island to
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Postby Viewpoint » Thu Dec 03, 2009 11:07 pm

Looks like we are destined and deserve partition...both sides have neither the vision or the capacity to agree a solution.
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Postby SKI-preo » Thu Dec 03, 2009 11:38 pm

Partition will result in regional instability and war. Partition has never resulted in anything good- look at the mess India and Pakistan is in.

If the the NATO alliance recognize an apartheid TRNC the treaties creating the British Bases will be invalidated. Accordingly they require the status quo to be maintained or a treaty reestablishing the bases.

Indeed in the EU it would become meaningless. If An ethnically pure Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus apartheid state is shat out by partition it will soon be flooded by everyone under the sun including Greek Cypriots. How will the Turkish Apartheidist be able to deny democratic and voting rights to us then?

Anyone who wants partition is a racist and apartheidist.
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Postby Viewpoint » Fri Dec 04, 2009 12:26 am

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Partition will result in regional instability and war. Partition has never resulted in anything good- look at the mess India and Pakistan is in.


Who will attack who? partition has physically taken place back in 1974.

If the the NATO alliance recognize an apartheid TRNC the treaties creating the British Bases will be invalidated. Accordingly they require the status quo to be maintained or a treaty reestablishing the bases.


You can have the Baes with love from the TRNC.

Indeed in the EU it would become meaningless. If An ethnically pure Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus apartheid state is shat out by partition it will soon be flooded by everyone under the sun including Greek Cypriots. How will the Turkish Apartheidist be able to deny democratic and voting rights to us then?


The TRNC would not be in the EU, so no flooding.

Anyone who wants partition is a racist and apartheidist.


When has wanting self determination as a result of years of fruitless negotations been racist (or apartheidist =no such word)?
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Postby SKI-preo » Fri Dec 04, 2009 1:00 am

We are still at war although there is a ceasefire- Sooner or later the status quo or formal recognized partition will spark a powder keg. It may even lead to a war between Greece and Turkey.Two Nato allies.

You actually think formal partition will allow you to prosper. Cyprus will become even more unstable. I predict thousands will die. Investors will see their assets worth nothing. It would be very cheap (less than one thousand dollars) and take very little man power (less than 50 people) to disrupt the precarious status quo and there seems to be a more than enough lunatics and fanatics on both sides who are very willing to do stupid things.

The partition of CYprus is based on the forced removal of entire races of people to set up an apartheid state. Therefore you are a racist. An extreme racist at that.
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Postby verywitty » Fri Dec 04, 2009 1:16 am

What sane person wants partition, but hey, i take my hat off to you mister for admitting it. So many hypocrites in Cyprus that will not admit it (see bishop, majority of DHKO, EDEK etc) and unfortunately these people are stinking rich (=power to promote ideas no matter how obscene/dangerous they are)
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Postby Viewpoint » Fri Dec 04, 2009 1:45 am

SKI-preo wrote:We are still at war although there is a ceasefire- Sooner or later the status quo or formal recognized partition will spark a powder keg. It may even lead to a war between Greece and Turkey.Two Nato allies.

You actually think formal partition will allow you to prosper. Cyprus will become even more unstable. I predict thousands will die. Investors will see their assets worth nothing. It would be very cheap (less than one thousand dollars) and take very little man power (less than 50 people) to disrupt the precarious status quo and there seems to be a more than enough lunatics and fanatics on both sides who are very willing to do stupid things.

The partition of CYprus is based on the forced removal of entire races of people to set up an apartheid state. Therefore you are a racist. An extreme racist at that.


The doom and gloom you predict is total rubbish, can you really see a EU nation being allowed to wage a war on its neighbour? You would be not only ostrasized by the EU but with counter attack being sent south your tourism thuse your economy would be shot to smitherines...not as easy as you predict.

If you have the balls to wage a war you would have done it years ago but you are still crying about 1974 do you really want to risk a repeat?
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Postby Expatkiwi » Fri Dec 04, 2009 2:44 am

SKI-preo wrote:Partition will result in regional instability and war. Partition has never resulted in anything good- look at the mess India and Pakistan is in.

If the the NATO alliance recognize an apartheid TRNC the treaties creating the British Bases will be invalidated. Accordingly they require the status quo to be maintained or a treaty reestablishing the bases.

Indeed in the EU it would become meaningless. If An ethnically pure Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus apartheid state is shat out by partition it will soon be flooded by everyone under the sun including Greek Cypriots. How will the Turkish Apartheidist be able to deny democratic and voting rights to us then?

Anyone who wants partition is a racist and apartheidist.


The UDI and the TRNC Constitution does not state that the TRNC is a racist country.
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