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[Expatkiwi]

Hey GR, reh you are talking to the Turk wife here, the ex kiwi is just a cover, comes and goes, but the wife is wearing the trousers here.

Just goes to show how much - or more accurately: little - you really know. You just don't want to admit that a non-Cypriot could side with the TRNC...

[Viewpoint]

Expat welcome to the real GC mentality which will continue to guarantee a non solution.

[pissouri]

OK lets start again!

TC -what are your concerns and worries if we have a solution under a Bi-communal federation?

GC - same question!!

[YFred]

OK lets start again!

TC -what are your concerns and worries if we have a solution under a Bi-communal federation?

GC - same question!!

Where are you from, not from this planet that's for sure? This is an argument that has been going on for 50 years.

[pissouri]

OK lets start again!

TC -what are your concerns and worries if we have a solution under a Bi-communal federation?

GC - same question!!

Where are you from, not from this planet that's for sure? This is an argument that has been going on for 50 years.
:lol: :lol: :lol:

Jackass.

I know my concerns, I would like to hear the other sides.

[YFred]

OK lets start again!

TC -what are your concerns and worries if we have a solution under a Bi-communal federation?

GC - same question!!

Where are you from, not from this planet that's for sure? This is an argument that has been going on for 50 years.

Jackass.

I know my concerns, I would like to hear the other sides.

It takes one to know one.

If you don't know each sides concerns after 50 years, you ain't gon a get it now are you dearest.

My wife said to me "Darling, can we go somewhere I have never been before this year" to which I replied "try the kitchen dear"

[humanist]

hh... I see... as a member of outnumbering community that's what suits u... but u knw it does not suit us... and our struggle against GC domination starts in the begining of British rule... the times that there was no Turkey, Turkish troops, settlers etc as main elements of solution of the Cyprus problem... When it suits u we r all Cypriots, when it does not; "we and they"...

I'm sure overwhelming majority of people in ur life, in any form r from Greek Speaking Cypriots... It gives a strong indication to me that we r not all Cypriots...

even in the "trnc" you are being outnumbered by the settlers. But I guess you are a settler and therefore don't consider yourself a minority in your so called country.

[Viewpoint]

hh... I see... as a member of outnumbering community that's what suits u... but u knw it does not suit us... and our struggle against GC domination starts in the begining of British rule... the times that there was no Turkey, Turkish troops, settlers etc as main elements of solution of the Cyprus problem... When it suits u we r all Cypriots, when it does not; "we and they"...

I'm sure overwhelming majority of people in ur life, in any form r from Greek Speaking Cypriots... It gives a strong indication to me that we r not all Cypriots...

even in the "trnc" you are being outnumbered by the settlers. But I guess you are a settler and therefore don't consider yourself a minority in your so called country.

Well dont now you have grasped it...took a while but you got there in the end.

[humanist]

yeah right

[Afroasiatis]

OK lets start again!

TC -what are your concerns and worries if we have a solution under a Bi-communal federation?

GC - same question!!

A solution under BBF won't be without problems. Many people in both communities still think on the interests of their community first of all. A common Cyrpiot identity going above ethnic backgrounds is a prerequisite for a common state to function.

Also, a great part of the people in both communities will think of BBF as an unjust solution (and it is, in some ways). They will try to undermine it as much as they can.

Another problem is the economic differerence between North and South. Rich generally don't like having poors around them, while poors don't like getting dominated by the rich. You can see the problems that reunified Germany faces. For the reunification to work, it is necessary to achieve a similar economic standard in both constituent states.

These are the reasons why so many Cypriot politicians and others prefers partition (in the TC side openly, in the GC side secretly, by hiding behind "European solutions", "BBF, but with the right content" and such stuff). Partition, and ethnic cleansing of both Greeks and Turks, is the way that was tried out for separating Greeks and Turks in the Ottoman Empire. It lead to two "clean" nation-states which, despite their many problems, are steadily progressing, without having to think much about the others. So, it's natural that many people hope that partition in Cyprus could have the same results.

However, I still think that BBF is preferable to an agreed partition (these are the only two realist solutions I can think of), for both sides:

- There is a serious danger that Turkey doesn't enter the EU after all, and so the internal border in Cyprus becomes the outer border of the EU, and I don't think it would be good for us to have one of the hardest borders in the world running right through our island.

- Cyprus is a small island and many problems can only be faced with common planing. Especially the great ecological problems that we are going to face in the following years.

- With a partition, North Cyprus won't have many choices but becoming something like colony of Turkey, and I think most of both GCs and TCs wouldn't like the idea.

- A reunited Cyprus won't be an easy thing, but if it functions, it could contribute to a closer relationship between Greece and Turkey and all other countries in our region. And it would also help Turkey entering the EU, and that is of course positive for Cyprus.

- And of course, it's our island, our homecountry, our history, and I think nobody is very comfortable with the idea of it being divided.