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[Piratis]

the biggest losers if we have partition, will be the Turkish Cypriots and what is left of them in Cyprus

TCs will be the winner in case of a partition... most of them would return their country to contribute it's economy and development.

Which is why we will never accept partition (any form of it) and let you be the winners. So instead of TCs returning, more and more of them will leave.

The sooner you realize that you can not win on our expense the better for you. Otherwise not only you will not be the winners, but you will continue to be the biggest losers - and you will have only yourselves to blame for this.

[insan]

what the GC is one state that can function as one, with equality, i.e we are all Cypriots.

ahh... I see... as a member of outnumbering community that's what suits u... but u knw it does not suit us... and our struggle against GC domination starts in the begining of British rule... the times that there was no Turkey, Turkish troops, settlers etc as main elements of solution of the Cyprus problem... When it suits u we r all Cypriots, when it does not; "we and they"...

I'm sure overwhelming majority of people in ur life, in any form r from Greek Speaking Cypriots... It gives a strong indication to me that we r not all Cypriots...

[pissouri]

what the GC is one state that can function as one, with equality, i.e we are all Cypriots.

ahh... I see... as a member of outnumbering community that's what suits u... :wink: but u knw it does not suit us... and our struggle against GC domination starts in the begining of British rule... the times that there was no Turkey, Turkish troops, settlers etc as main elements of solution of the Cyprus problem... When it suits u we r all Cypriots, when it does not; "we and they"... :wink:

I'm sure overwhelming majority of people in ur life, in any form r from Greek Speaking Cypriots... It gives a strong indication to me that we r not all Cypriots... :wink:

and I am pretty sure your not Turkish Cypriot, but a mainland settler. So why does Turkey wnat to join the EU and not form a union with other Turkic speaking peoples?

[Hermes]

Re-unification with protected minority status is the best the T/Cs will get. We'll call this a BBF. But in reality over time any solution will be subject to EU laws and the laws of economics. G/C economic power and migration between the two "component regions" will make two regions on one small island an anomaly. T/Cs will move south for work, G/Cs will buy up, repossess and re-settle the north. There will be a dilution of the BBF until it becomes meaningless.

In order to avoid this scenario the best thing is for T/Cs to give up as much land as possible and concentrate themselves in an area of around 18 percent where they don't sit on G/C property. The more property and land they cling to the less chance of long-term survival. That is the mistake the T/Cs made when they took over 37 percent of the island. It was legally and economically unviable. And a right mess they've made.

[insan]

what the GC is one state that can function as one, with equality, i.e we are all Cypriots.

ahh... I see... as a member of outnumbering community that's what suits u... but u knw it does not suit us... and our struggle against GC domination starts in the begining of British rule... the times that there was no Turkey, Turkish troops, settlers etc as main elements of solution of the Cyprus problem... When it suits u we r all Cypriots, when it does not; "we and they"...

I'm sure overwhelming majority of people in ur life, in any form r from Greek Speaking Cypriots... It gives a strong indication to me that we r not all Cypriots...

and I am pretty sure your not Turkish Cypriot, but a mainland settler. So why does Turkey wnat to join the EU and not form a union with other Turkic speaking peoples?

U r mistaken that I'm a Turkish citizen settled in Cyprus after 1974 but if u mean I'm an anatolian settler whose ansestors settled in Cyprus during Ottoman rule then u r right. Doesn't it make me a Turkish Cypriot?

Turkey wanted to join EU for number of reasons I previously mentioned but in the last 2 years she well understood that there r some strong and very influential political groups in EU that ultimately r against the full membership of her so that in the last 2 years Turkey started strengthen her relations with many Asian countries and Turkic states. Turkey has already signed many multifaceted agreements with 4 Turkic States, Russia and Iran.

U need to read a lot abt the current developments in Turkey and Asia. U may have a look at "Politics and Elections" section for further info.

[insan]

Re-unification with protected minority status is the best the T/Cs will get. We'll call this a BBF. But in reality over time any solution will be subject to EU laws and the laws of economics. G/C economic power and migration between the two "component regions" will make two regions on one small island an anomaly. T/Cs will move south for work, G/Cs will buy up, repossess and re-settle the north. There will be a dilution of the BBF until it becomes meaningless.

In order to avoid this scenario the best thing is for T/Cs to give up as much land as possible and concentrate themselves in an area of around 18 percent where they don't sit on G/C property. The more property and land they cling to the less chance of long-term survival. That is the mistake the T/Cs made when they took over 37 percent of the island. It was legally and economically unviable. And a right mess they've made.

In case of a reunited Cyprus, North will be the largest investment area; so why should TCs go South to work?

[paliometoxo]

i agree partition is the most viable solution! so since tcs are so worried about security and need an army why doesent turkey offer to partition turkey and call it the "turkish cypriot republic of northern turkey" and then another partition for the kurdish who are a minority just like the tcs in cyprus yet the kurds are not allowed half the rights the tcs have in cyprus.

[Get Real!]

.. and our struggle against GC domination starts in the begining of British rule...

Your forefathers came here uninvited to kill and destroy the indigenous people of Cyprus and you want to talk about “your struggle against GC domination"?

What kind of Turkish hashish do you smoke because Paphitis wants to have some so he can talk about his white Australian struggle against the aboriginals!

[insan]

.. and our struggle against GC domination starts in the begining of British rule...

Your forefathers came here uninvited to kill and destroy the indigenous people of Cyprus and you want to talk about “your struggle against GC domination"?

What kind of Turkish hashish do you smoke because Paphitis wants to have some so he can talk about his white Australian struggle against the aboriginals!

indijiniis people of Cyprus were killed by previous invaders... we r all settlers came to Cyprus in various times and every new comer killed or opressed the then inhabitants of Cyprus who had/have various mixed ethnic backgrounds?

Btw the hashish of Afyongarahisar region well opens ur mind... u need a lot of Afyongarahisar hashish reh GR in order to get rid of ur meaningless and baseless Sibriyet Neyşınalizm.

[Me Ed]

The Turkish ideal.

Phase 1: Remove the GCs.
Phase 2: Remove the majority of TCs.
Phase 3: Assimilate the remaining minority TC through setters.

So far so good:

Phase 4: Partition under TC rule
Phase 5: Establish rule under a settler Turk.
Phase 6: Annexation.
Phase 7: Eradication of the TC identity.

Job done!