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[Cypriot Nick]

An Asian trading bloc centered around China and Japan is very far from what you're talking about. And given that China supposedly routinely engages in "genocide" against its muslim minority, I can't see how any kind of political union will extend from the far east to asia minor.

Sorry friend, but the ottoman empire had its time in the sun, those days are long gone, thankfully never to return. About time you people woke up to this fact, it's been nearly 100 years.

There r many obstacles in front of establishing an Asian Union that would cover whole Asian continent but as it is clearly seen there r also big efforts to overcome all these problems and establish an Asian Union stage by stage.

EU expanded it's territory from western Europe to East Mediterennean region why shouldn't an Asian Union initiated in Eastern Asia expand it's borders through Asia Minor?

This has nothing to do with return of Ottoman Empire but inevitable alliances among the region's countries to further develop their multifaceted relations in all fields; wealth, democracy and human rights... besides against any threats from outside of the union...

You see Insan, therein lies the reason as to why such a union could never come about. 'Wealth, democracy and human rights' are concepts that are alien to many of the countries that would form this union. In addition to this the current range of leaders in Asia are not democrats. They will never relinquish power in order to forward the greater good. Thus it will remain a pipe dream.

[insan]

An Asian trading bloc centered around China and Japan is very far from what you're talking about. And given that China supposedly routinely engages in "genocide" against its muslim minority, I can't see how any kind of political union will extend from the far east to asia minor.

Sorry friend, but the ottoman empire had its time in the sun, those days are long gone, thankfully never to return. About time you people woke up to this fact, it's been nearly 100 years.

There r many obstacles in front of establishing an Asian Union that would cover whole Asian continent but as it is clearly seen there r also big efforts to overcome all these problems and establish an Asian Union stage by stage.

EU expanded it's territory from western Europe to East Mediterennean region why shouldn't an Asian Union initiated in Eastern Asia expand it's borders through Asia Minor?

This has nothing to do with return of Ottoman Empire but inevitable alliances among the region's countries to further develop their multifaceted relations in all fields; wealth, democracy and human rights... besides against any threats from outside of the union...

You see Insan, therein lies the reason as to why such a union could never come about. 'Wealth, democracy and human rights' are concepts that are alien to many of the countries that would form this union. In addition to this the current range of leaders in Asia are not democrats. They will never relinquish power in order to forward the greater good. Thus it will remain a pipe dream.

As if leaders of then the European Union countries were great democrats when they initiated the first stage of EU.

[Cypriot Nick]

An Asian trading bloc centered around China and Japan is very far from what you're talking about. And given that China supposedly routinely engages in "genocide" against its muslim minority, I can't see how any kind of political union will extend from the far east to asia minor.

Sorry friend, but the ottoman empire had its time in the sun, those days are long gone, thankfully never to return. About time you people woke up to this fact, it's been nearly 100 years.

There r many obstacles in front of establishing an Asian Union that would cover whole Asian continent but as it is clearly seen there r also big efforts to overcome all these problems and establish an Asian Union stage by stage.

EU expanded it's territory from western Europe to East Mediterennean region why shouldn't an Asian Union initiated in Eastern Asia expand it's borders through Asia Minor?

This has nothing to do with return of Ottoman Empire but inevitable alliances among the region's countries to further develop their multifaceted relations in all fields; wealth, democracy and human rights... besides against any threats from outside of the union...

You see Insan, therein lies the reason as to why such a union could never come about. 'Wealth, democracy and human rights' are concepts that are alien to many of the countries that would form this union. In addition to this the current range of leaders in Asia are not democrats. They will never relinquish power in order to forward the greater good. Thus it will remain a pipe dream.

As if leaders of then the European Union countries were great democrats when they initiated the first stage of EU.

Clearly they were and still are. That is why the EU exists and the Asian or Turkic union does not.

[insan]

Building Parliament: 50 years of European Parliament History 1958–2008
The recently published book 'Building Parliament: 50 years of European Parliament History 1958–2008' was produced by the European University Institute, Florence, under the direction of Yves Mény, for the European Parliament.




'There is hardly a political system in the modern world that does not have a parliamentary assembly in its institutional 'toolkit'. Even autocratic or totalitarian systems have found a way of creating the illusion of popular expression.

The parliamentary institution is not in itself a sufficient condition for granting a democratic licence. Yet the existence of a parliament is a necessary condition of what we have defined since the English, American and French Revolutions as 'democracy'.

Since the start of European integration, the history of the European Parliament has fallen between these two extremes. Europe was not initially created with democracy in mind. Yet Europe today is realistic only if it espouses the canons of democracy. In other words, political realism in our era means building a new utopia, that of a supranational or post-national democracy, while for two centuries the DNA of democracy has been its realisation within the nation-state.'

http://www.europarl.org.uk/section/idea ... %80%932008

... and watch the democracy in Europe after the currency wars hit EU... Escape of Asian countries from the usage of US dollar and Euro will have a great destructive impact on US and EU economy which will lead US and EU into all kinds of crisis and maybe new totalitarian regimes...

[Cypriot Nick]

Building Parliament: 50 years of European Parliament History 1958–2008
The recently published book 'Building Parliament: 50 years of European Parliament History 1958–2008' was produced by the European University Institute, Florence, under the direction of Yves Mény, for the European Parliament.




'There is hardly a political system in the modern world that does not have a parliamentary assembly in its institutional 'toolkit'. Even autocratic or totalitarian systems have found a way of creating the illusion of popular expression.

The parliamentary institution is not in itself a sufficient condition for granting a democratic licence. Yet the existence of a parliament is a necessary condition of what we have defined since the English, American and French Revolutions as 'democracy'.

Since the start of European integration, the history of the European Parliament has fallen between these two extremes. Europe was not initially created with democracy in mind. Yet Europe today is realistic only if it espouses the canons of democracy. In other words, political realism in our era means building a new utopia, that of a supranational or post-national democracy, while for two centuries the DNA of democracy has been its realisation within the nation-state.'

http://www.europarl.org.uk/section/idea ... %80%932008

... and watch the democracy in Europe after the currency wars hit EU... Escape of Asian countries from the usage of US dollar and Euro will have a great destructive impact on US and EU economy which will lead US and EU into all kinds of crisis and maybe new totalitarian regimes...

These are assumptions made on the basis of wishful thinking.

On the other hand totalitarian regimes already exist in the Turkic sphere of Asia.

[iceman]

Is that Nasredin Hoca's violin?

No My friend...since Talat is in a crying mode i thought i'll get the violin out to company him..


Joke aside...game over for Talat...Dark forces have pulled his rope with this one.

[Bananiot]

Agree, very bad timing.

[Tim Drayton]

Is that Nasredin Hoca's violin?

No My friend...since Talat is in a crying mode i thought i'll get the violin out to company him..


Joke aside...game over for Talat...Dark forces have pulled his rope with this one.

Turkey's Radikal newspaper has been pushing this story very hard. You don't think that they could be trying to promote a new approach towards Cyprus in Turkey?

[Bananiot]

A new approach without Talat?

[iceman]

Is that Nasredin Hoca's violin?

No My friend...since Talat is in a crying mode i thought i'll get the violin out to company him..


Joke aside...game over for Talat...Dark forces have pulled his rope with this one.

Turkey's Radikal newspaper has been pushing this story very hard. You don't think that they could be trying to promote a new approach towards Cyprus in Turkey?

Nope...