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[Gregory]

I will ask the same question again, what will change? will Apolosities get their land back? will there be a solution? or will it just be a points scoring exercise? I personally think it only serves the purpose of hardening views against uniting as now TCs will increase their cliams against the "RoC" for losses not only in 1974 but also 1963. The chasm gets wider and we are all contibuting to this process towards continued division.

They are after her house in Hove in Sussex, what is intersting is, is it in her name or has it been protected in some way?
If I was her, I would sell it for a pound just to spite them, no, no, i didn't say that, I didn't mean it honestly.

I think they have placed the property in a special trust which caanot be gotten at.

A court injunction has been issued blocking any transfer of ownership over this family's holdings.

[Viewpoint]

I will ask the same question again, what will change? will Apolosities get their land back? will there be a solution? or will it just be a points scoring exercise? I personally think it only serves the purpose of hardening views against uniting as now TCs will increase their cliams against the "RoC" for losses not only in 1974 but also 1963. The chasm gets wider and we are all contibuting to this process towards continued division.

They are after her house in Hove in Sussex, what is intersting is, is it in her name or has it been protected in some way?
If I was her, I would sell it for a pound just to spite them, no, no, i didn't say that, I didn't mean it honestly.

I think they have placed the property in a special trust which caanot be gotten at.

A court injunction has been issued blocking any transfer of ownership over this family's holdings.

I think it happened when the case was going on in the mickey mouse courts.

[Gregory]

I will ask the same question again, what will change? will Apolosities get their land back? will there be a solution? or will it just be a points scoring exercise? I personally think it only serves the purpose of hardening views against uniting as now TCs will increase their cliams against the "RoC" for losses not only in 1974 but also 1963. The chasm gets wider and we are all contibuting to this process towards continued division.

They are after her house in Hove in Sussex, what is intersting is, is it in her name or has it been protected in some way?
If I was her, I would sell it for a pound just to spite them, no, no, i didn't say that, I didn't mean it honestly.

I think they have placed the property in a special trust which caanot be gotten at.

A court injunction has been issued blocking any transfer of ownership over this family's holdings.

I think it happened when the case was going on in the mickey mouse courts.

I came across the injunction ruling somewhere I'll try and find it and post it here.

BTW...when did this go to the "trnc" courts?

[Viewpoint]

I will ask the same question again, what will change? will Apolosities get their land back? will there be a solution? or will it just be a points scoring exercise? I personally think it only serves the purpose of hardening views against uniting as now TCs will increase their cliams against the "RoC" for losses not only in 1974 but also 1963. The chasm gets wider and we are all contibuting to this process towards continued division.

They are after her house in Hove in Sussex, what is intersting is, is it in her name or has it been protected in some way?
If I was her, I would sell it for a pound just to spite them, no, no, i didn't say that, I didn't mean it honestly.

I think they have placed the property in a special trust which caanot be gotten at.

A court injunction has been issued blocking any transfer of ownership over this family's holdings.

I think it happened when the case was going on in the mickey mouse courts.

I came across the injunction ruling somewhere I'll try and find it and post it here.

BTW...when did this go to the "trnc" courts?

Ours are called recognized when necessay yours are the mickey mouse because they do not comply with standard procedure.

[YFred]

I will ask the same question again, what will change? will Apolosities get their land back? will there be a solution? or will it just be a points scoring exercise? I personally think it only serves the purpose of hardening views against uniting as now TCs will increase their cliams against the "RoC" for losses not only in 1974 but also 1963. The chasm gets wider and we are all contibuting to this process towards continued division.

They are after her house in Hove in Sussex, what is intersting is, is it in her name or has it been protected in some way?
If I was her, I would sell it for a pound just to spite them, no, no, i didn't say that, I didn't mean it honestly.

I think they have placed the property in a special trust which caanot be gotten at.

A court injunction has been issued blocking any transfer of ownership over this family's holdings.

I think it happened when the case was going on in the mickey mouse courts.

I came across the injunction ruling somewhere I'll try and find it and post it here.

BTW...when did this go to the "trnc" courts?

Ours are called recognized when necessay yours are the mickey mouse because they do not comply with standard procedure.

VP, Gregory does not understand the meaning of Mickey Mouse, you have to say Mihaili Bondigo court, he may just understand what you mean.

[Oracle]

I will ask the same question again, what will change? will Apolosities get their land back? will there be a solution? or will it just be a points scoring exercise? I personally think it only serves the purpose of hardening views against uniting as now TCs will increase their cliams against the "RoC" for losses not only in 1974 but also 1963. The chasm gets wider and we are all contibuting to this process towards continued division.

They are after her house in Hove in Sussex, what is intersting is, is it in her name or has it been protected in some way?
If I was her, I would sell it for a pound just to spite them, no, no, i didn't say that, I didn't mean it honestly.

I think they have placed the property in a special trust which caanot be gotten at.

A court injunction has been issued blocking any transfer of ownership over this family's holdings.

I think it happened when the case was going on in the mickey mouse courts.

I came across the injunction ruling somewhere I'll try and find it and post it here.

BTW...when did this go to the "trnc" courts?

Ours are called recognized when necessay yours are the mickey mouse because they do not comply with standard procedure.

What a prize twit

Every court in the world must be substandard, according to the prize twit, except Turkish ones, I presume

[YFred]

I will ask the same question again, what will change? will Apolosities get their land back? will there be a solution? or will it just be a points scoring exercise? I personally think it only serves the purpose of hardening views against uniting as now TCs will increase their cliams against the "RoC" for losses not only in 1974 but also 1963. The chasm gets wider and we are all contibuting to this process towards continued division.

They are after her house in Hove in Sussex, what is intersting is, is it in her name or has it been protected in some way?
If I was her, I would sell it for a pound just to spite them, no, no, i didn't say that, I didn't mean it honestly.

I think they have placed the property in a special trust which caanot be gotten at.

A court injunction has been issued blocking any transfer of ownership over this family's holdings.

I think it happened when the case was going on in the mickey mouse courts.

I came across the injunction ruling somewhere I'll try and find it and post it here.

BTW...when did this go to the "trnc" courts?

Ours are called recognized when necessay yours are the mickey mouse because they do not comply with standard procedure.

What a prize twit

Every court in the world must be substandard, according to the prize twit, except Turkish ones, I presume

Oy laomon.

[james_mav]

What if its not the result you expect?

Whatever happens this week will not make any difference because the Orams have at least 2 more years in the ECHR court on account that their rights were trampled on in the Nicosia court.

What is the link between the ECJ and the ECHR Fred? One case is against Apostolides and the other is (presumably) against the ROC. Orams may have already lost their property by the time the ECHR is heard. The fact that they may be able to claw back some of their loss from the ROC is irrelevant and will do nothing to legalise the theft of GC property.

The connection is that that's where you are heading after this judgment on account that the Nicosia Kangoroo court ballsed it up in the first place.
In the mean time, the house is goint to belong to them till there is an agreement.

Fred, you have obviously misunderstood the entire exercise. Orams stand to lose their house in Hove if the case goes against them and judgement is enforced. The importance of Apostolides v Orams is that, in the event the claimant succeeds, he can enforce it in any EU country. This is why the holiday home carpetbaggers are shitting themselves in the north.

The "balls up" in Nicosia will have no relevance to future cases.

There was no "balls up" in the district court - due process was followed; a summary judgment was issued as it would've been just about anywhere for a respondent who refuses to take part in legal proceedings. Any doubt about errors of process and law were extinguished when the Supreme Court confirmed the district court's ruling.

ECHR will be the judge of that. What will be really funny is then if the Orams win a case against roc with 10 million compensation. Now that is what I call justice.

Are the Orams' appealing on procedural/evidentiary grounds? If so, it would be the EJC, not the ECHR...if it's on human rights grounds, I don't know that a lengthy appeal to the ECHR will save them from enforcement proceedings arising from the judgment against them in Nicosia.

[YFred]

What if its not the result you expect?

Whatever happens this week will not make any difference because the Orams have at least 2 more years in the ECHR court on account that their rights were trampled on in the Nicosia court.

What is the link between the ECJ and the ECHR Fred? One case is against Apostolides and the other is (presumably) against the ROC. Orams may have already lost their property by the time the ECHR is heard. The fact that they may be able to claw back some of their loss from the ROC is irrelevant and will do nothing to legalise the theft of GC property.

The connection is that that's where you are heading after this judgment on account that the Nicosia Kangoroo court ballsed it up in the first place.
In the mean time, the house is goint to belong to them till there is an agreement.

Fred, you have obviously misunderstood the entire exercise. Orams stand to lose their house in Hove if the case goes against them and judgement is enforced. The importance of Apostolides v Orams is that, in the event the claimant succeeds, he can enforce it in any EU country. This is why the holiday home carpetbaggers are shitting themselves in the north.

The "balls up" in Nicosia will have no relevance to future cases.

There was no "balls up" in the district court - due process was followed; a summary judgment was issued as it would've been just about anywhere for a respondent who refuses to take part in legal proceedings. Any doubt about errors of process and law were extinguished when the Supreme Court confirmed the district court's ruling.

ECHR will be the judge of that. What will be really funny is then if the Orams win a case against roc with 10 million compensation. Now that is what I call justice.

Are the Orams' appealing on procedural/evidentiary grounds? If so, it would be the EJC, not the ECHR...if it's on human rights grounds, I don't know that a lengthy appeal to the ECHR will save them from enforcement proceedings arising from the judgment against them in Nicosia.

I suspect it will be both and probably will run concurrently. Their war chest is deep.

[bill cobbett]

The Orams appeal will start on Wednesday or Thursday next week at The Royal Courts of Justice in the Strand, switchboard 020 7947 6000. The case reference is Civil Appeal A2 2006 2114. The Court list is usually available after 2.30 on the day before the hearing.

http://www.hmcourts-service.gov.uk/cms/cause.htm

I hope to be there.

Checked a couple of hours ago using the link Jerry gives above.

Not listed for Wednesday, so looking like Thursday 12 Nov.