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[bill cobbett]

What if its not the result you expect?

Whatever happens this week will not make any difference because the Orams have at least 2 more years in the ECHR court on account that their rights were trampled on in the Nicosia court.

Some of you tissy lot are 'aving a larf mate. You woodn't know the difference between your rights and your lefts unless Pinkey tells you.

[Jerry]

What if its not the result you expect?

Whatever happens this week will not make any difference because the Orams have at least 2 more years in the ECHR court on account that their rights were trampled on in the Nicosia court.

What is the link between the ECJ and the ECHR Fred? One case is against Apostolides and the other is (presumably) against the ROC. Orams may have already lost their property by the time the ECHR is heard. The fact that they may be able to claw back some of their loss from the ROC is irrelevant and will do nothing to legalise the theft of GC property.

[YFred]

What if its not the result you expect?

Whatever happens this week will not make any difference because the Orams have at least 2 more years in the ECHR court on account that their rights were trampled on in the Nicosia court.

What is the link between the ECJ and the ECHR Fred? One case is against Apostolides and the other is (presumably) against the ROC. Orams may have already lost their property by the time the ECHR is heard. The fact that they may be able to claw back some of their loss from the ROC is irrelevant and will do nothing to legalise the theft of GC property.

The connection is that that's where you are heading after this judgment on account that the Nicosia Kangoroo court ballsed it up in the first place.
In the mean time, the house is goint to belong to them till there is an agreement.

[Jerry]

What if its not the result you expect?

Whatever happens this week will not make any difference because the Orams have at least 2 more years in the ECHR court on account that their rights were trampled on in the Nicosia court.

What is the link between the ECJ and the ECHR Fred? One case is against Apostolides and the other is (presumably) against the ROC. Orams may have already lost their property by the time the ECHR is heard. The fact that they may be able to claw back some of their loss from the ROC is irrelevant and will do nothing to legalise the theft of GC property.

The connection is that that's where you are heading after this judgment on account that the Nicosia Kangoroo court ballsed it up in the first place.
In the mean time, the house is goint to belong to them till there is an agreement.

Fred, you have obviously misunderstood the entire exercise. Orams stand to lose their house in Hove if the case goes against them and judgement is enforced. The importance of Apostolides v Orams is that, in the event the claimant succeeds, he can enforce it in any EU country. This is why the holiday home carpetbaggers are shitting themselves in the north.

The "balls up" in Nicosia will have no relevance to future cases.

[james_mav]

What if its not the result you expect?

Whatever happens this week will not make any difference because the Orams have at least 2 more years in the ECHR court on account that their rights were trampled on in the Nicosia court.

What is the link between the ECJ and the ECHR Fred? One case is against Apostolides and the other is (presumably) against the ROC. Orams may have already lost their property by the time the ECHR is heard. The fact that they may be able to claw back some of their loss from the ROC is irrelevant and will do nothing to legalise the theft of GC property.

The connection is that that's where you are heading after this judgment on account that the Nicosia Kangoroo court ballsed it up in the first place.
In the mean time, the house is goint to belong to them till there is an agreement.

Fred, you have obviously misunderstood the entire exercise. Orams stand to lose their house in Hove if the case goes against them and judgement is enforced. The importance of Apostolides v Orams is that, in the event the claimant succeeds, he can enforce it in any EU country. This is why the holiday home carpetbaggers are shitting themselves in the north.

The "balls up" in Nicosia will have no relevance to future cases.

There was no "balls up" in the district court - due process was followed; a summary judgment was issued as it would've been just about anywhere for a respondent who refuses to take part in legal proceedings. Any doubt about errors of process and law were extinguished when the Supreme Court confirmed the district court's ruling.

[bill cobbett]

Orams to take RoC to the ECHR !!!

The GB High Court also confirmed that due process was followed at the CY courts. If that wasn't enough the ECJ came to the same opinion in it's ruling earlier this year.

Far more chance of success and making good any losses they may incur next week if they take Turkey, the great loser of so many cases at the ECHR, to the ECHR.

On what grounds? As the controlling power in the north which promotes the Illegal and Scammy Esdeger/Exchange Deeds without which no one would have bought in the north. A very winnable case.

Would also suggest they haul the GB Foreign Office before the Appropriate Court for the weakness and contrived ambiguity of its warnings about buying in the north. A case where it put GB foreign policy interests before those of GB citizens.

[Viewpoint]

I will ask the same question again, what will change? will Apolosities get their land back? will there be a solution? or will it just be a points scoring exercise? I personally think it only serves the purpose of hardening views against uniting as now TCs will increase their cliams against the "RoC" for losses not only in 1974 but also 1963. The chasm gets wider and we are all contibuting to this process towards continued division.

[YFred]

I will ask the same question again, what will change? will Apolosities get their land back? will there be a solution? or will it just be a points scoring exercise? I personally think it only serves the purpose of hardening views against uniting as now TCs will increase their cliams against the "RoC" for losses not only in 1974 but also 1963. The chasm gets wider and we are all contibuting to this process towards continued division.

They are after her house in Hove in Sussex, what is intersting is, is it in her name or has it been protected in some way?
If I was her, I would sell it for a pound just to spite them, no, no, i didn't say that, I didn't mean it honestly.

[YFred]

What if its not the result you expect?

Whatever happens this week will not make any difference because the Orams have at least 2 more years in the ECHR court on account that their rights were trampled on in the Nicosia court.

What is the link between the ECJ and the ECHR Fred? One case is against Apostolides and the other is (presumably) against the ROC. Orams may have already lost their property by the time the ECHR is heard. The fact that they may be able to claw back some of their loss from the ROC is irrelevant and will do nothing to legalise the theft of GC property.

The connection is that that's where you are heading after this judgment on account that the Nicosia Kangoroo court ballsed it up in the first place.
In the mean time, the house is goint to belong to them till there is an agreement.

Fred, you have obviously misunderstood the entire exercise. Orams stand to lose their house in Hove if the case goes against them and judgement is enforced. The importance of Apostolides v Orams is that, in the event the claimant succeeds, he can enforce it in any EU country. This is why the holiday home carpetbaggers are shitting themselves in the north.

The "balls up" in Nicosia will have no relevance to future cases.

There was no "balls up" in the district court - due process was followed; a summary judgment was issued as it would've been just about anywhere for a respondent who refuses to take part in legal proceedings. Any doubt about errors of process and law were extinguished when the Supreme Court confirmed the district court's ruling.

ECHR will be the judge of that. What will be really funny is then if the Orams win a case against roc with 10 million compensation. Now that is what I call justice.

[Viewpoint]

I will ask the same question again, what will change? will Apolosities get their land back? will there be a solution? or will it just be a points scoring exercise? I personally think it only serves the purpose of hardening views against uniting as now TCs will increase their cliams against the "RoC" for losses not only in 1974 but also 1963. The chasm gets wider and we are all contibuting to this process towards continued division.

They are after her house in Hove in Sussex, what is intersting is, is it in her name or has it been protected in some way?
If I was her, I would sell it for a pound just to spite them, no, no, i didn't say that, I didn't mean it honestly.

I think they have placed the property in a special trust which caanot be gotten at.