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Turkey and Muhktar Talat To Be Blamed For Talks Failure

Postby bill cobbett » Mon Nov 02, 2009 9:05 pm

Over the past year or so our Beloved Peacemaker President Christofias has made Various Concessionary Proposals and shown Great Goodwill at the talks and in other ways elsewhere.

Pres X has proposed concessions by means of a Revolving Presidency to allow our 12% tissy minority an effective say in government.

The Humanitarian Pres X has proposed that some 50,000 of the Illegal Settler,s shipped in by Turkey to overwhelm the tissies, be allowed to stay post-settlement.

Pres X has proposed and accepted that a great many Ethnically Cleansed Refugees will not have an automatic right of return and will have to take their chances outside the settlement.

The Reconciler Pres X has expressed his regrets, time and time again, for the episode 63 onwards and has also spoken of his vision of a United CY where the Human Rights of all are Primary.

Pres X has insisted the crossing points in the cease-fire line remain open so that thousands of his compatriots can cross in to the Free Areas every day for their work, for their health care, IDs, travel documents, education etc.

Pres X again shows Goodwill when convoys of tissies (and probably Turkish Mainlanders) crossed to Kokkina in each of the past two years, and on organised visits to mosques in Larnaca, unhindered by ID and passport checks.

Time and time again Pres X reaches out and removes bars to trade and aid to and with the Occupied North. He has allowed the EU spending of development aid to the tune of hundreds of millions of Euros and has favoured the Green Line Regulations which is allowing a burgeoning tissy trade with the EU.

And all of this within the Greatest of any Concessions, made to a small minority, anywhere and at any time in human history - the BBF.

Turkey and Talat be in no doubt you will be blamed for the collapse of these talks.

For your outrageous ideas of goodwill include ...

to refuse to open ports and airspace as you agreed two years ago

to place bars and bureaucratic restrictions on people wanting to go on a pilgrimage to Morphou.

to make the threats of a few days ago that Morphou will not be "returned".

to physically interfere with exploration ships going about their lawful business in CY waters.

to come up with and support Land Stealing at every opportunity.

to attempt to impose an unagreed time frame for the talks

to threaten, a few days ago, after Talat's Ankara Bummit, that a "solution" will be found outside the talks, to make childish, belligerant and unhelpful threats with "Plan B"

It's all been Take, Take, Take with Turkey and Talat.

All has been Red Lines.

They will get the blame.
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Postby paliometoxo » Mon Nov 02, 2009 10:43 pm

thats their aim to make talks fail so they can so the only solution is two states
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Re: Turkey and Muhktar Talat To Be Blamed For Talks Failure

Postby Simon » Tue Nov 03, 2009 3:56 am

bill cobbett wrote:Over the past year or so our Beloved Peacemaker President Christofias has made Various Concessionary Proposals and shown Great Goodwill at the talks and in other ways elsewhere.

Pres X has proposed concessions by means of a Revolving Presidency to allow our 12% tissy minority an effective say in government.

The Humanitarian Pres X has proposed that some 50,000 of the Illegal Settler,s shipped in by Turkey to overwhelm the tissies, be allowed to stay post-settlement.

Pres X has proposed and accepted that a great many Ethnically Cleansed Refugees will not have an automatic right of return and will have to take their chances outside the settlement.

The Reconciler Pres X has expressed his regrets, time and time again, for the episode 63 onwards and has also spoken of his vision of a United CY where the Human Rights of all are Primary.

Pres X has insisted the crossing points in the cease-fire line remain open so that thousands of his compatriots can cross in to the Free Areas every day for their work, for their health care, IDs, travel documents, education etc.

Pres X again shows Goodwill when convoys of tissies (and probably Turkish Mainlanders) crossed to Kokkina in each of the past two years, and on organised visits to mosques in Larnaca, unhindered by ID and passport checks.

Time and time again Pres X reaches out and removes bars to trade and aid to and with the Occupied North. He has allowed the EU spending of development aid to the tune of hundreds of millions of Euros and has favoured the Green Line Regulations which is allowing a burgeoning tissy trade with the EU.

And all of this within the Greatest of any Concessions, made to a small minority, anywhere and at any time in human history - the BBF.

Turkey and Talat be in no doubt you will be blamed for the collapse of these talks.

For your outrageous ideas of goodwill include ...

to refuse to open ports and airspace as you agreed two years ago

to place bars and bureaucratic restrictions on people wanting to go on a pilgrimage to Morphou.

to make the threats of a few days ago that Morphou will not be "returned".

to physically interfere with exploration ships going about their lawful business in CY waters.

to come up with and support Land Stealing at every opportunity.

to attempt to impose an unagreed time frame for the talks

to threaten, a few days ago, after Talat's Ankara Bummit, that a "solution" will be found outside the talks, to make childish, belligerant and unhelpful threats with "Plan B"

It's all been Take, Take, Take with Turkey and Talat.

All has been Red Lines.

They will get the blame.


Good post. Sums up the events rather well. I just hope you are right about the blame part.
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Postby RAFAELLA » Tue Nov 03, 2009 10:28 am

You are right about the concessions, bill cobbett. But, what did he ask in return? Since there are so many concessions so far, isn't about time to say "enough!" and ask for the turkish side to make concessions?

You cannot say that you accept 50.000 illegal settlers to stay without even being on the negotiating table. Stupid.
We know how greedy Turks are, "since you accept 50.000 then why not do it 70.000 or 80.000?"
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Re: Turkey and Muhktar Talat To Be Blamed For Talks Failure

Postby YFred » Tue Nov 03, 2009 1:12 pm

Simon wrote:
bill cobbett wrote:Over the past year or so our Beloved Peacemaker President Christofias has made Various Concessionary Proposals and shown Great Goodwill at the talks and in other ways elsewhere.

Pres X has proposed concessions by means of a Revolving Presidency to allow our 12% tissy minority an effective say in government.

The Humanitarian Pres X has proposed that some 50,000 of the Illegal Settler,s shipped in by Turkey to overwhelm the tissies, be allowed to stay post-settlement.

Pres X has proposed and accepted that a great many Ethnically Cleansed Refugees will not have an automatic right of return and will have to take their chances outside the settlement.

The Reconciler Pres X has expressed his regrets, time and time again, for the episode 63 onwards and has also spoken of his vision of a United CY where the Human Rights of all are Primary.

Pres X has insisted the crossing points in the cease-fire line remain open so that thousands of his compatriots can cross in to the Free Areas every day for their work, for their health care, IDs, travel documents, education etc.

Pres X again shows Goodwill when convoys of tissies (and probably Turkish Mainlanders) crossed to Kokkina in each of the past two years, and on organised visits to mosques in Larnaca, unhindered by ID and passport checks.

Time and time again Pres X reaches out and removes bars to trade and aid to and with the Occupied North. He has allowed the EU spending of development aid to the tune of hundreds of millions of Euros and has favoured the Green Line Regulations which is allowing a burgeoning tissy trade with the EU.

And all of this within the Greatest of any Concessions, made to a small minority, anywhere and at any time in human history - the BBF.

Turkey and Talat be in no doubt you will be blamed for the collapse of these talks.

For your outrageous ideas of goodwill include ...

to refuse to open ports and airspace as you agreed two years ago

to place bars and bureaucratic restrictions on people wanting to go on a pilgrimage to Morphou.

to make the threats of a few days ago that Morphou will not be "returned".

to physically interfere with exploration ships going about their lawful business in CY waters.

to come up with and support Land Stealing at every opportunity.

to attempt to impose an unagreed time frame for the talks

to threaten, a few days ago, after Talat's Ankara Bummit, that a "solution" will be found outside the talks, to make childish, belligerant and unhelpful threats with "Plan B"

It's all been Take, Take, Take with Turkey and Talat.

All has been Red Lines.

They will get the blame.


Good post. Sums up the events rather well. I just hope you are right about the blame part.

Judging by the secret documents from Downer to UN hope is all you've got regarding the blame part.

You will find that after this, everyone will say enough is enough.
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Re: Turkey and Muhktar Talat To Be Blamed For Talks Failure

Postby Get Real! » Tue Nov 03, 2009 1:22 pm

YFred wrote:You will find that after this, everyone will say enough is enough.

That's right! Shit happens after 35 years of ignoring international law...
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Re: Turkey and Muhktar Talat To Be Blamed For Talks Failure

Postby Simon » Tue Nov 03, 2009 3:43 pm

YFred wrote:
Simon wrote:
bill cobbett wrote:Over the past year or so our Beloved Peacemaker President Christofias has made Various Concessionary Proposals and shown Great Goodwill at the talks and in other ways elsewhere.

Pres X has proposed concessions by means of a Revolving Presidency to allow our 12% tissy minority an effective say in government.

The Humanitarian Pres X has proposed that some 50,000 of the Illegal Settler,s shipped in by Turkey to overwhelm the tissies, be allowed to stay post-settlement.

Pres X has proposed and accepted that a great many Ethnically Cleansed Refugees will not have an automatic right of return and will have to take their chances outside the settlement.

The Reconciler Pres X has expressed his regrets, time and time again, for the episode 63 onwards and has also spoken of his vision of a United CY where the Human Rights of all are Primary.

Pres X has insisted the crossing points in the cease-fire line remain open so that thousands of his compatriots can cross in to the Free Areas every day for their work, for their health care, IDs, travel documents, education etc.

Pres X again shows Goodwill when convoys of tissies (and probably Turkish Mainlanders) crossed to Kokkina in each of the past two years, and on organised visits to mosques in Larnaca, unhindered by ID and passport checks.

Time and time again Pres X reaches out and removes bars to trade and aid to and with the Occupied North. He has allowed the EU spending of development aid to the tune of hundreds of millions of Euros and has favoured the Green Line Regulations which is allowing a burgeoning tissy trade with the EU.

And all of this within the Greatest of any Concessions, made to a small minority, anywhere and at any time in human history - the BBF.

Turkey and Talat be in no doubt you will be blamed for the collapse of these talks.

For your outrageous ideas of goodwill include ...

to refuse to open ports and airspace as you agreed two years ago

to place bars and bureaucratic restrictions on people wanting to go on a pilgrimage to Morphou.

to make the threats of a few days ago that Morphou will not be "returned".

to physically interfere with exploration ships going about their lawful business in CY waters.

to come up with and support Land Stealing at every opportunity.

to attempt to impose an unagreed time frame for the talks

to threaten, a few days ago, after Talat's Ankara Bummit, that a "solution" will be found outside the talks, to make childish, belligerant and unhelpful threats with "Plan B"

It's all been Take, Take, Take with Turkey and Talat.

All has been Red Lines.

They will get the blame.


Good post. Sums up the events rather well. I just hope you are right about the blame part.

Judging by the secret documents from Downer to UN hope is all you've got regarding the blame part.
You will find that after this, everyone will say enough is enough.


That is precisely why I used the words I did.
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