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[denizaksulu]

It doesn't work because the people that move to another country to enjoy a better life want to change it in to the country they came from. I include the majority of ex-pats that come to live in Cyprus.

Foreigners that move to the UK don't integrate, so it seems the Brits are merely taking a leaf out of their book.

I have my Sunday roast with Yorkshire pud and Brussel sprouts!! Whay else do you need?

I'm having roast pork this Sunday and have invited all my Muslim friends.

Include among your guests a priest to read you your 'last rites'.

[Simon]

It doesn't work because the people that move to another country to enjoy a better life want to change it in to the country they came from. I include the majority of ex-pats that come to live in Cyprus.

Foreigners that move to the UK don't integrate, so it seems the Brits are merely taking a leaf out of their book.

I have my Sunday roast with Yorkshire pud and Brussel sprouts!! Whay else do you need?

Sorry, maybe I am missing something, do you represent all foreigners in the UK?

An Englishman eats halloumi, what else do you need?

[insan]

Multiculturalism doesn't work, no matter what ethnic group are involved; it's not the fault of the ethnic groups but multiculturalism that multiculturalism doesn't work.

Therefore, the Nanny/Police State is gonna force it on you, because many people are still resisting it, like they resist other forms of state control that are based in unrealistic suppositions.



Multiculturalism, or multi-ethnicism, is an excuse for importing people from other nations.


* Industry loves it because it gives them cheap labor and new customers to buy all the products required to start up homes. Also, these people have no cultural prohibitions on buying certain things that were previously unsalable.

* Liberal politicians love it because it gives them an easy-to-pander-to, instant voting base.

* Underconfident, depressed, underachieving, disillusioned, self-pitying, low-self-esteem individuals love it because it gives them a way to take revenge on the demographic majority, who are perceived as thriving in a situation which these underconfident people are not thriving in.



This is the intersection of groups that want multiculturalism.

To everyone else, especially those who read history, it makes sense to have a nation of people pulling in roughly the same direction:


* Values systems.

* Culture.

* Heritage.

* IQ, ability and wealth.



That's how you get a stable society. People who are upset with our current society, or upset at themselves, or simply jockeying for power, are willing to sacrifice a stable society for their own needs.

That is why multiculturalism is the new taboo, and criticism of it is "bad" in the same way Satan, Stalin and nerve gas are "bad."

Of course, history shows us that we're not the first civilization to go this way. The Greeks observed how once a nation became a trading mecca and had naval power, it inevitably began to include a motley group, and eventually collapsed.

Multiculturism does work very well provided you have the right immigration policies and formulas, and many countries have proven this.

Australia, Canada, New Zealand are 3 countries which have built a very cohesive and colorful society with clever immigration policies that allow them to import wealthy, and qualified persons from overseas who are not a burden on welfare and are net contributors to society overall. They also integrate quite well.

This is why illegal immigration laws are tough in those countries, because they actually control who come in and who does not.

Thursday, 29 October 2009

Racial equality: Time to get back to basics for our future
In his speech at the FECCA (Federation of Ethnic Communities Councils of Australia) 2009 Biennial Conference in Victoria today, federal Race Discrimination Commissioner, Graeme Innes, calls for racial equality to be put firmly back on the national agenda.

“In an era where stories involving race, culture and religious belief are dominating our headlines, it is startling to observe how little discussion is devoted to what these scenarios mean for our country and its future in terms of our national commitment to racial equality,” Commissioner Innes said.

“When we are seeing projections that our population will grow to 35 million by 2049, largely from net overseas migration, I am extremely concerned that we do not miss this opportunity to ensure the basics are firmly in place for us to address our very multicultural future,” said Commissioner Innes.

Commissioner Innes said that the government and multicultural sectors needed to work together to ensure processes and mechanisms were in place for the future and that all communities in Australia were aware of them.

“As a nation, it is time we accepted that, like most countries on this planet, pockets of persistent racism exist and they have long term, serious impacts and human consequences,” said Mr Innes. “It is only with community acknowledgement and awareness that our community as a whole can take responsibility and commit to long term strategies that promote respect and tolerance.”

Commissioner Innes said that, in addition to acknowledging the current forms of racism that exist in Australia, we must ensure our legal tools, including a robust complaints process, are working for the community

http://www.hreoc.gov.au/about/media/med ... 03_09.html

Was Pufidi an Austrian Cypriot?

[CBBB]

Multiculturalism doesn't work, no matter what ethnic group are involved; it's not the fault of the ethnic groups but multiculturalism that multiculturalism doesn't work.

Therefore, the Nanny/Police State is gonna force it on you, because many people are still resisting it, like they resist other forms of state control that are based in unrealistic suppositions.



Multiculturalism, or multi-ethnicism, is an excuse for importing people from other nations.


* Industry loves it because it gives them cheap labor and new customers to buy all the products required to start up homes. Also, these people have no cultural prohibitions on buying certain things that were previously unsalable.

* Liberal politicians love it because it gives them an easy-to-pander-to, instant voting base.

* Underconfident, depressed, underachieving, disillusioned, self-pitying, low-self-esteem individuals love it because it gives them a way to take revenge on the demographic majority, who are perceived as thriving in a situation which these underconfident people are not thriving in.



This is the intersection of groups that want multiculturalism.

To everyone else, especially those who read history, it makes sense to have a nation of people pulling in roughly the same direction:


* Values systems.

* Culture.

* Heritage.

* IQ, ability and wealth.



That's how you get a stable society. People who are upset with our current society, or upset at themselves, or simply jockeying for power, are willing to sacrifice a stable society for their own needs.

That is why multiculturalism is the new taboo, and criticism of it is "bad" in the same way Satan, Stalin and nerve gas are "bad."

Of course, history shows us that we're not the first civilization to go this way. The Greeks observed how once a nation became a trading mecca and had naval power, it inevitably began to include a motley group, and eventually collapsed.

Multiculturism does work very well provided you have the right immigration policies and formulas, and many countries have proven this.

Australia, Canada, New Zealand are 3 countries which have built a very cohesive and colorful society with clever immigration policies that allow them to import wealthy, and qualified persons from overseas who are not a burden on welfare and are net contributors to society overall. They also integrate quite well.

This is why illegal immigration laws are tough in those countries, because they actually control who come in and who does not.

Thursday, 29 October 2009

Racial equality: Time to get back to basics for our future
In his speech at the FECCA (Federation of Ethnic Communities Councils of Australia) 2009 Biennial Conference in Victoria today, federal Race Discrimination Commissioner, Graeme Innes, calls for racial equality to be put firmly back on the national agenda.

“In an era where stories involving race, culture and religious belief are dominating our headlines, it is startling to observe how little discussion is devoted to what these scenarios mean for our country and its future in terms of our national commitment to racial equality,” Commissioner Innes said.

“When we are seeing projections that our population will grow to 35 million by 2049, largely from net overseas migration, I am extremely concerned that we do not miss this opportunity to ensure the basics are firmly in place for us to address our very multicultural future,” said Commissioner Innes.

Commissioner Innes said that the government and multicultural sectors needed to work together to ensure processes and mechanisms were in place for the future and that all communities in Australia were aware of them.

“As a nation, it is time we accepted that, like most countries on this planet, pockets of persistent racism exist and they have long term, serious impacts and human consequences,” said Mr Innes. “It is only with community acknowledgement and awareness that our community as a whole can take responsibility and commit to long term strategies that promote respect and tolerance.”

Commissioner Innes said that, in addition to acknowledging the current forms of racism that exist in Australia, we must ensure our legal tools, including a robust complaints process, are working for the community

http://www.hreoc.gov.au/about/media/med ... 03_09.html

Was Pufidi an Austrian Cypriot?

No, he doesn't speak German!

[souroul]

it does but it comes with its limits

[CBBB]

Yes, here it is working in practice:

UPROAR AS FANATICS GO ON MARCH FOR SHARIA LAW IN UK

http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/137 ... -law-in-UK

[denizaksulu]

It doesn't work because the people that move to another country to enjoy a better life want to change it in to the country they came from. I include the majority of ex-pats that come to live in Cyprus.

Foreigners that move to the UK don't integrate, so it seems the Brits are merely taking a leaf out of their book.

I have my Sunday roast with Yorkshire pud and Brussel sprouts!! Whay else do you need?

Sorry, maybe I am missing something, do you represent all foreigners in the UK?

An Englishman eats halloumi, what else do you need?

I am having a jibe at the remarks on integration. I eat Cypriot food almost everyday. Last night I had Molekhia, the night before fasulya yaxni. I am trying to cut down on Halloumi and olives - but failing miserably.

[Malapapa]

It doesn't work because the people that move to another country to enjoy a better life want to change it in to the country they came from. I include the majority of ex-pats that come to live in Cyprus.

Foreigners that move to the UK don't integrate, so it seems the Brits are merely taking a leaf out of their book.

I have my Sunday roast with Yorkshire pud and Brussel sprouts!! Whay else do you need?

I'm having roast pork this Sunday and have invited all my Muslim friends.

Include among your guests a priest to read you your 'last rites'.

Clearly you didn't recognise him without his cassock and an apple rammed in his mouth.

[Piratis]

Multiculturalism cannot possibly survive. Anyone with an ounce of common sense sees it - it is the deliberate thrusting together of cultures to create a conflict. The conflict will be permanent until one culture dominates. And in this case one culture is not wasting any time thank you - our good friend Islam. Multiculturalism is a collection of cultures - cultures are based on an ethnic group or a collection of subgroups who originate in a geographical location and have a history. If that culture is exported, it either has to dominate in order for future generations to perpetuate it or the future generations lose it. That is a fact.
If it dominates then you have merely replaced the original dominant culture with a new dominant culture. You no longer have multiculturalism or you have a class riven society. In the UK and in Canada you had a dominant culture which was enlightened enough to tolerate a small minority of other cultures who either happily assimilated or were pleased to remain a microcosm and took advantage of their "differences" i.e. Chinatown and Indian areas. They still supported the doiminant culture because they knew what side their bread was buttered. Canada - have you forgotten Quebec? The Quebecois have always demanded either to be dominant or to be seperated - thats multiculturalism? Thats failure of multiculturalism. The only way to make it work is to mix a bunch of ethnicities together and create a new culture and what do you have? A domnant culture!!!! Argue around circles, multiculturalism does not work by definition and is the potential destruction of all the developments that could still be good for this planet. If populations are permitted to assimilate and mix organically rather than by force then over say a thousand years the races will mix but the cultures will die. If you force it, you are are another Stalin.

In Cyprus TCs demand either to be the equals or to be seperated while GCs demand either to be the dominant or to be the dominant!

So when are you going back to Turkey so we can solve the problem you deliberately created by coming to our island?

[insan]

Multiculturalism cannot possibly survive. Anyone with an ounce of common sense sees it - it is the deliberate thrusting together of cultures to create a conflict. The conflict will be permanent until one culture dominates. And in this case one culture is not wasting any time thank you - our good friend Islam. Multiculturalism is a collection of cultures - cultures are based on an ethnic group or a collection of subgroups who originate in a geographical location and have a history. If that culture is exported, it either has to dominate in order for future generations to perpetuate it or the future generations lose it. That is a fact.
If it dominates then you have merely replaced the original dominant culture with a new dominant culture. You no longer have multiculturalism or you have a class riven society. In the UK and in Canada you had a dominant culture which was enlightened enough to tolerate a small minority of other cultures who either happily assimilated or were pleased to remain a microcosm and took advantage of their "differences" i.e. Chinatown and Indian areas. They still supported the doiminant culture because they knew what side their bread was buttered. Canada - have you forgotten Quebec? The Quebecois have always demanded either to be dominant or to be seperated - thats multiculturalism? Thats failure of multiculturalism. The only way to make it work is to mix a bunch of ethnicities together and create a new culture and what do you have? A domnant culture!!!! Argue around circles, multiculturalism does not work by definition and is the potential destruction of all the developments that could still be good for this planet. If populations are permitted to assimilate and mix organically rather than by force then over say a thousand years the races will mix but the cultures will die. If you force it, you are are another Stalin.

In Cyprus TCs demand either to be the equals or to be seperated while GCs demand either to be the dominant or to be the dominant!

So when are you going back to Turkey so we can solve the problem you deliberately created by coming to our island?

It is not ur island... However if u believe buggering off of one ethnic group would solve the problem then u go back to where u come from, why should we the TCs leave?