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Turkey’s Economy...

Postby Get Real! » Fri Oct 30, 2009 5:58 pm

insan wrote:Poor GR, u need to read more regarding the latest developments if u ever stop reading and posting some useless Obama, Bush, Blair etc bashing craps. :lol:


Here you go Insan, does this look like a country about to take over Asia? :lol:

Turkey’s Economy

General tendencies
In the present economic situation (2009), Turkey appears as a country with several fragile economic sectors. It is an open question whether foreign investments, very important to the economic progress over recent years, will continue to find Turkey interesting, even safe.

Economic growth has slowed down the last few years, and inflation seems to be climbing again. Still this is far below the levels of 1990's and early 2000's, when it could reach around 100% a year. 2007 figures were 10%.

Industries

Turkey's economy has over recent decades become more and more diversified. Modern industries, many active in exports have become common in large parts of the country. Industries of Turkey are more aiming at exports than most other countries in the Middle East, but is small compared to European levels. The main contributor to the GNP was industry, though, making up more than 30%.

The main sectors of Turkey's industries are textiles and clothing, employing one of three industry workers. This is, however, a sector of heavy international competition, and more exposed to cheap countries with the end of the global quota system.

New industries, like the production of automotive and electronics industries, are quickly gaining ground.

Agriculture and Fishing

Agriculture remains the largest employer, and although more effective than before, it is far behind European standards in modernization. Many farms are small, employing only the family that owns it.

Fishing makes up another important part of the economy, the catch is almost 100 kg/inhabitant/year. A major part of this is exported.


Imports and Exports

Turkey remains a country of great import/export deficits, 2008 figures are at -31%.

The main export markets are in Europe, Germany at 11% and Great Britain at 8%. The main countries Turkey imports from are Russia with 14% and Germany with 10%. Main products for export are apparel, foodstuffs, textiles, metal manufactures and transport equipment. Main products for import are machinery, chemicals, semi-finished goods, fuels and transport equipment.

Living standards

Living standards have gone up and down over recent years. Following reforms in 2004, growth rates have been good. In 2004, 9%, until 2007, about 5% year. Growth rate fell to 1.5% in 2008.Economy on the level of ordinary Turks, have worsened in the last years, as inflation has been at the level of 100% or more, while normal wages have been risen at a lower speed. There have been serious measures on trying to bring the Turkey's foreign debts down, which means that a large part of the national production has been sent out of the country.
The remittances coming home from Turks working abroad, mainly in Germany and Saudi Arabia, is important, but doesn't count for more than 2-3% of GNP.

State economy

The state economy remains in need of IMF backing, and faces challenges of high budget deficits and external debt. State budget 2008 had a deficit of US$11.7 billion, or 6.4%.

Turkey has some production of oil and natural gas, but far less than domestic demands. Oil production covers only 6% of national consumption, natural gas 2.4% (2007 figures).

Health of currency

Passing the 1 million lira to a single US dollar in the early 2000's, Turkey's currency was more than ripe for a reform. This came about on January 1, 2005 when the Turkish lira (TRL) was converted to New Turkish lira (TRY) at a rate of 1,000,000 old to 1 new Turkish lira.

On January 1, 2009 the word "New" was dropped from the currency, it is now simply known as Turkish lira. So far, the Turkish lira has been farily stable to major world currencies, falling some, but appearing no more exposed than most other currencies in the turbulent times since late 2008.

http://i-cias.com/e.o/turkey.economy.htm
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Postby insan » Fri Oct 30, 2009 6:14 pm

GR, Turkey does not need to take over the Asia. The article u posted very well shows how rapidly Turkey developed it's economy in less than 10 years. The developments in the last 10 years and the current attempts of Turkey to establish multifaceted relations with 4 central Asian Turkic states, Russia, Iran and many others prove my points that in the near future Turkey will be one of the major contributor of an Asian Union.
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Postby Get Real! » Fri Oct 30, 2009 6:26 pm

insan wrote:GR, Turkey does not need to take over the Asia. The article u posted very well shows how rapidly Turkey developed it's economy in less than 10 years. The developments in the last 10 years and the current attempts of Turkey to establish multifaceted relations with 4 central Asian Turkic states, Russia, Iran and many others prove my points that in the near future Turkey will be one of the major contributor of an Asian Union.

Insan, there’s NOTHING positive about Turkey in this report yet you foolishly claimed earlier that...

insan wrote:...if Turkey keeps looking at West and East simultaneously but on the other hand leads the establishment of an Asian Union.


If that’s not the common Turkish delusion of grandeur then I don’t know what is… Image
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Re: Turkey’s Economy...

Postby Tim Drayton » Fri Oct 30, 2009 6:40 pm

Get Real! wrote:
insan wrote:Poor GR, u need to read more regarding the latest developments if u ever stop reading and posting some useless Obama, Bush, Blair etc bashing craps. :lol:


Here you go Insan, does this look like a country about to take over Asia? :lol:

Turkey’s Economy

General tendencies
In the present economic situation (2009), Turkey appears as a country with several fragile economic sectors. It is an open question whether foreign investments, very important to the economic progress over recent years, will continue to find Turkey interesting, even safe.

Economic growth has slowed down the last few years, and inflation seems to be climbing again. Still this is far below the levels of 1990's and early 2000's, when it could reach around 100% a year. 2007 figures were 10%.

Industries

Turkey's economy has over recent decades become more and more diversified. Modern industries, many active in exports have become common in large parts of the country. Industries of Turkey are more aiming at exports than most other countries in the Middle East, but is small compared to European levels. The main contributor to the GNP was industry, though, making up more than 30%.

[b]The main sectors of Turkey's industries are textiles and clothing, employing one of three industry workers. This is, however, a sector of heavy international competition, and more exposed to cheap countries with the end of the global quota system.[/b]

New industries, like the production of automotive and electronics industries, are quickly gaining ground.

Agriculture and Fishing

Agriculture remains the largest employer, and although more effective than before, it is far behind European standards in modernization. Many farms are small, employing only the family that owns it.

Fishing makes up another important part of the economy, the catch is almost 100 kg/inhabitant/year. A major part of this is exported.


Imports and Exports

Turkey remains a country of great import/export deficits, 2008 figures are at -31%.

The main export markets are in Europe, Germany at 11% and Great Britain at 8%. The main countries Turkey imports from are Russia with 14% and Germany with 10%. Main products for export are apparel, foodstuffs, textiles, metal manufactures and transport equipment. Main products for import are machinery, chemicals, semi-finished goods, fuels and transport equipment.

Living standards

Living standards have gone up and down over recent years. Following reforms in 2004, growth rates have been good. In 2004, 9%, until 2007, about 5% year. Growth rate fell to 1.5% in 2008.Economy on the level of ordinary Turks, have worsened in the last years, as inflation has been at the level of 100% or more, while normal wages have been risen at a lower speed. There have been serious measures on trying to bring the Turkey's foreign debts down, which means that a large part of the national production has been sent out of the country.
The remittances coming home from Turks working abroad, mainly in Germany and Saudi Arabia, is important, but doesn't count for more than 2-3% of GNP.

State economy

The state economy remains in need of IMF backing, and faces challenges of high budget deficits and external debt. State budget 2008 had a deficit of US$11.7 billion, or 6.4%.

Turkey has some production of oil and natural gas, but far less than domestic demands. Oil production covers only 6% of national consumption, natural gas 2.4% (2007 figures).

Health of currency

Passing the 1 million lira to a single US dollar in the early 2000's, Turkey's currency was more than ripe for a reform. This came about on January 1, 2005 when the Turkish lira (TRL) was converted to New Turkish lira (TRY) at a rate of 1,000,000 old to 1 new Turkish lira.

On January 1, 2009 the word "New" was dropped from the currency, it is now simply known as Turkish lira. So far, the Turkish lira has been farily stable to major world currencies, falling some, but appearing no more exposed than most other currencies in the turbulent times since late 2008.

http://i-cias.com/e.o/turkey.economy.htm


This is not very accurate or up-to-date information.

According to information presented at a conference in 2008, Turkey’s textile and garment sector contributes 7.8% towards GDP and constitutes about 20% of industrial production. This is hardly the 'main sector' of the economy.

http://www.koksav.org.tr/ebulten/eyl-ek ... vacun.html
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Re: Turkey’s Economy...

Postby Get Real! » Fri Oct 30, 2009 6:48 pm

Tim Drayton wrote:This is not very accurate or up-to-date information.

According to information presented at a conference in 2008, Turkey’s textile and garment sector contributes 7.8% towards GDP and constitutes about 20% of industrial production. This is hardly the 'main sector' of the economy.

http://www.koksav.org.tr/ebulten/eyl-ek ... vacun.html

This is all one needs to look at from the report to see the bleak situation Turkey's economy is in...

Turkey remains a country of great import/export deficits, 2008 figures are at -31%.

The state economy remains in need of IMF backing, and faces challenges of high budget deficits and external debt. State budget 2008 had a deficit of US$11.7 billion, or 6.4%.


Yet delusional Turks like Insan, are dreaming of ruling Asia and Green horses! :roll:
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Re: Turkey’s Economy...

Postby Tim Drayton » Fri Oct 30, 2009 7:15 pm

Get Real! wrote:
Tim Drayton wrote:This is not very accurate or up-to-date information.

According to information presented at a conference in 2008, Turkey’s textile and garment sector contributes 7.8% towards GDP and constitutes about 20% of industrial production. This is hardly the 'main sector' of the economy.

http://www.koksav.org.tr/ebulten/eyl-ek ... vacun.html

This is all one needs to look at from the report to see the bleak situation Turkey's economy is in...

Turkey remains a country of great import/export deficits, 2008 figures are at -31%.

The state economy remains in need of IMF backing, and faces challenges of high budget deficits and external debt. State budget 2008 had a deficit of US$11.7 billion, or 6.4%.


Yet delusional Turks like Insan, are dreaming of ruling Asia and Green horses! :roll:


One of the reasons for this imbalance may be because certain 'invisible earnings' are not included. Turkey's earnings from the heroin trade are believed to be equivalent to about 25% of the official GDP figure.

BTW the whole global economy is in quite a bleak situation at the moment. I am optimistic about Turkey's prospects once the world economy picks up.
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Re: Turkey’s Economy...

Postby Get Real! » Fri Oct 30, 2009 8:04 pm

Tim Drayton wrote:I am optimistic about Turkey's prospects once the world economy picks up.

Yeah, me too... :lol:

From the IMF…

Turkey: Financial Position in the Fund as of September 30, 2009

http://www.imf.org/external/np/fin/tad/ ... 2009-10-31


Turkey: IMF Credit Outstanding as of September 30, 2009

http://www.imf.org/external/np/fin/tad/ ... tegory=EXC


The future looks... err borrowed! 8)
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Postby Get Real! » Fri Oct 30, 2009 8:25 pm

insan wrote:My opinions r not based on what I've read in the press but on scientific researches and statistics.

Insan, being the most knowledgeable on Turkey because of all your studies, what is her master plan? :?

Does she plan to pay off some of her debt going back to 1984, or is she going to continue just paying the accumulated interest and scoop up Asia anyway? 8)
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Re: Turkey’s Economy...

Postby Tim Drayton » Sat Oct 31, 2009 10:41 am

Get Real! wrote:
Tim Drayton wrote:I am optimistic about Turkey's prospects once the world economy picks up.

Yeah, me too... :lol:

From the IMF…

Turkey: Financial Position in the Fund as of September 30, 2009

http://www.imf.org/external/np/fin/tad/ ... 2009-10-31


Turkey: IMF Credit Outstanding as of September 30, 2009

http://www.imf.org/external/np/fin/tad/ ... tegory=EXC


The future looks... err borrowed! 8)


If you follow the history of the Turkish economy over the past 50 years you will see that there is a pattern of extreme volatility. Periods of breathtaking growth have been punctuated by severe crises - and the crisis that Turkey is currently experiencing is pretty mild compared say to that of 1994. However, each subsequent peak has taken the economy to far greater heights. My forecast is based on an extrapolation of this trend and I expect this pattern to continue in the next upturn.

I believe that Turkey is one of the greatest obstacles to the achievement of reunification in Cyprus. It is comforting for those who hope to see an end to the ocupation to wallow in denial and imagine that this country is in some kind of terminal decay. However, I think it is far better to base one's strategies on a realistic assesment of Turkey's prospects, and I think they are a lot more positive than you imagine.

BTW - The arguments that you are using about trade deficits and indebtedness apply equally if not more to the USA.
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Re: Turkey’s Economy...

Postby Tim Drayton » Sat Oct 31, 2009 10:53 am

Get Real! wrote:
Tim Drayton wrote:I am optimistic about Turkey's prospects once the world economy picks up.

Yeah, me too... :lol:

From the IMF…

Turkey: Financial Position in the Fund as of September 30, 2009

http://www.imf.org/external/np/fin/tad/ ... 2009-10-31


Turkey: IMF Credit Outstanding as of September 30, 2009

http://www.imf.org/external/np/fin/tad/ ... tegory=EXC


The future looks... err borrowed! 8)


Examining your link

http://www.imf.org/external/np/fin/tad/ ... tegory=EXC

which shows Turkey’s total outstanding credit position with the IMF on various dates, we see:

September 30, 2009
5,076,335,686
December 31, 2008
5,534,350,937
December 31, 2007
4,529,959,000
December 31, 2006
7,153,697,000
December 31, 2005
10,247,335,000
December 31, 2004
13,848,347,500
December 31, 2003
16,212,777,500
December 31, 2002
16,245,660,000

that Turkey’s outstanding debt has actually fallen from over 16 billion dollars at the end of 2002 to just over 5 billion dollars recently. Turkey has managed to repay over 11 billion dollars over the past seven years. Is that bad?
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