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Postby insan » Sat Oct 31, 2009 9:48 pm

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bill cobbett wrote:
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bill cobbett wrote:The EU already has direct trade with the Occupied Areas for those goods which meet its standards and pass through the cease-fire lines.
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Look, billy willy silly boy... show a little respect for ur Cy "bros" and stop ur humiliating crap! Otherwise it's not difficult for us to retaliate to u with a similar way u do! :twisted:


Reh Insan,

Are you denying that there are goods to the value of millions of euros crossing both ways across the cease-fire line?

Our Beloved Pres X, Pres of all CYs, has encouraged this movement of goods, through the Green Line Regulations, and shown true regard for the interests of all CYs. On the other hand your Bellicose, Threatening, Former Terrorist Errorgluey stopped trade across the line in Potatoes. Presumably Errorgluey was upset he wasn't getting any back-handers under the table.


Reh Billy, I'm not denying it. I'm angry with u abt the way u treat Halil and me by trying to humiliate us and not respecting. Eroglu didn't stop the potatoe trade. We discussed it here on the forum and explained u what's that potatoes issue all about. Even I and Tim posted abt how the pio.gov.cy news regarding the potatoe trade issue was garbled.

Yes, Eroglu is a bad politican for at least half of the TCs and probably for most of the GCs but he can't dare to do anything he wishes. Please get ur facts staright and be a little suspicious abt the propaganda news spread of ur pio.gov.cy boys.


Insan This billy willy boy thinks he is very cleaver .he thinks by throwing the muds on us will help his onesided ideas . In here i am trying to show him and to others there is always other alternatives too .... come to your senses the way u are going does not help at all .... by not seeing the TC's ideas as well .... By trying humulate TC's pushes away the TC's from them they never understand Insan .They thinks we are begging for them ...this is the bigger mistake they are making .... many times i told them we are not any more in 60's..... without communication ,without transportation ,without electricity, fear in our minds before we goto our beds . They all gone .......
Billy ,willy boys my friends understands my ideas, my friends knows what kind of peace agreement i want .
The way u trying to humulate TC's only helps to nationalists groups . Everyday news papers are full up with your humulation ideas in north . Keep doing u are helping them a lot .... not much time left for u to face with Eroglu .... Than u will understand better . Go on still think about as joke or treat ........


Have one thing to say to you Halil ...

... and it's very simple ......

Equal Rights for all CYs in One CY.


Ok Billy boy. It's ur opinion or arguement. Will u try to impose it on us even if we think differently and don't wish to live in a GC ruled Cyprus? If we don't accept it u will insult and humiliate us?
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Postby bill cobbett » Sat Oct 31, 2009 9:56 pm

insan wrote:
bill cobbett wrote:
halil wrote:
insan wrote:
bill cobbett wrote:
insan wrote:
bill cobbett wrote:The EU already has direct trade with the Occupied Areas for those goods which meet its standards and pass through the cease-fire lines.
_________________
BayCrap


Look, billy willy silly boy... show a little respect for ur Cy "bros" and stop ur humiliating crap! Otherwise it's not difficult for us to retaliate to u with a similar way u do! :twisted:


Reh Insan,

Are you denying that there are goods to the value of millions of euros crossing both ways across the cease-fire line?

Our Beloved Pres X, Pres of all CYs, has encouraged this movement of goods, through the Green Line Regulations, and shown true regard for the interests of all CYs. On the other hand your Bellicose, Threatening, Former Terrorist Errorgluey stopped trade across the line in Potatoes. Presumably Errorgluey was upset he wasn't getting any back-handers under the table.


Reh Billy, I'm not denying it. I'm angry with u abt the way u treat Halil and me by trying to humiliate us and not respecting. Eroglu didn't stop the potatoe trade. We discussed it here on the forum and explained u what's that potatoes issue all about. Even I and Tim posted abt how the pio.gov.cy news regarding the potatoe trade issue was garbled.

Yes, Eroglu is a bad politican for at least half of the TCs and probably for most of the GCs but he can't dare to do anything he wishes. Please get ur facts staright and be a little suspicious abt the propaganda news spread of ur pio.gov.cy boys.


Insan This billy willy boy thinks he is very cleaver .he thinks by throwing the muds on us will help his onesided ideas . In here i am trying to show him and to others there is always other alternatives too .... come to your senses the way u are going does not help at all .... by not seeing the TC's ideas as well .... By trying humulate TC's pushes away the TC's from them they never understand Insan .They thinks we are begging for them ...this is the bigger mistake they are making .... many times i told them we are not any more in 60's..... without communication ,without transportation ,without electricity, fear in our minds before we goto our beds . They all gone .......
Billy ,willy boys my friends understands my ideas, my friends knows what kind of peace agreement i want .
The way u trying to humulate TC's only helps to nationalists groups . Everyday news papers are full up with your humulation ideas in north . Keep doing u are helping them a lot .... not much time left for u to face with Eroglu .... Than u will understand better . Go on still think about as joke or treat ........


Have one thing to say to you Halil ...

... and it's very simple ......

Equal Rights for all CYs in One CY.


Ok Billy boy. It's ur opinion or arguement. Will u try to impose it on us even if we think differently and don't wish to live in a GC ruled Cyprus? If we don't accept it u will insult and humiliate us?


Insan,

Our Beloved Pres X is offering a CY ruled by CYs.

Why do you keep using the language of the Partitionists? The language of Colonial Powers when you say gc and tc.

Are you and Halil not CYs ??????
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Postby bill cobbett » Sat Oct 31, 2009 10:07 pm

Where's everyone gone? Dinner?

Typical CYs, think more of stuffing themselves than of CY. :wink:
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Postby insan » Sat Oct 31, 2009 10:07 pm

bill cobbett wrote:
insan wrote:
bill cobbett wrote:
halil wrote:
insan wrote:
bill cobbett wrote:
insan wrote:
bill cobbett wrote:The EU already has direct trade with the Occupied Areas for those goods which meet its standards and pass through the cease-fire lines.
_________________
BayCrap


Look, billy willy silly boy... show a little respect for ur Cy "bros" and stop ur humiliating crap! Otherwise it's not difficult for us to retaliate to u with a similar way u do! :twisted:


Reh Insan,

Are you denying that there are goods to the value of millions of euros crossing both ways across the cease-fire line?

Our Beloved Pres X, Pres of all CYs, has encouraged this movement of goods, through the Green Line Regulations, and shown true regard for the interests of all CYs. On the other hand your Bellicose, Threatening, Former Terrorist Errorgluey stopped trade across the line in Potatoes. Presumably Errorgluey was upset he wasn't getting any back-handers under the table.


Reh Billy, I'm not denying it. I'm angry with u abt the way u treat Halil and me by trying to humiliate us and not respecting. Eroglu didn't stop the potatoe trade. We discussed it here on the forum and explained u what's that potatoes issue all about. Even I and Tim posted abt how the pio.gov.cy news regarding the potatoe trade issue was garbled.

Yes, Eroglu is a bad politican for at least half of the TCs and probably for most of the GCs but he can't dare to do anything he wishes. Please get ur facts staright and be a little suspicious abt the propaganda news spread of ur pio.gov.cy boys.


Insan This billy willy boy thinks he is very cleaver .he thinks by throwing the muds on us will help his onesided ideas . In here i am trying to show him and to others there is always other alternatives too .... come to your senses the way u are going does not help at all .... by not seeing the TC's ideas as well .... By trying humulate TC's pushes away the TC's from them they never understand Insan .They thinks we are begging for them ...this is the bigger mistake they are making .... many times i told them we are not any more in 60's..... without communication ,without transportation ,without electricity, fear in our minds before we goto our beds . They all gone .......
Billy ,willy boys my friends understands my ideas, my friends knows what kind of peace agreement i want .
The way u trying to humulate TC's only helps to nationalists groups . Everyday news papers are full up with your humulation ideas in north . Keep doing u are helping them a lot .... not much time left for u to face with Eroglu .... Than u will understand better . Go on still think about as joke or treat ........


Have one thing to say to you Halil ...

... and it's very simple ......

Equal Rights for all CYs in One CY.


Ok Billy boy. It's ur opinion or arguement. Will u try to impose it on us even if we think differently and don't wish to live in a GC ruled Cyprus? If we don't accept it u will insult and humiliate us?


Insan,

Our Beloved Pres X is offering a CY ruled by CYs.

Why do you keep using the language of the Partitionists? The language of Colonial Powers when you say gc and tc.

Are you and Halil not CYs ??????


Ur pres-x offers a Cy ruled by Cys because that's what suits him as a member of outnumbering ethnic group; namely Greek Cys.

U r over 50 reh Billy... u tell me how u were calling us just before British Rule? Bello muslims? Bello Turcos? Invader muslims? How? Since when we become all Cys and not Greek Cys, Turkish Cys, Ottoman Cys, Orthodox Cys etc?

During the Ottoman rule Turkish Cys were well aware of that they were descendens of a branch of Turks and they still r well aware of that... be it assimilated kirokitians, assyrians, egyptians, Hittites, Phonecians or any gavvoloz; overwhelming majority of Greek Cys consider themselves descendants of Greeks. These r the facts. Why do u try to distort the facts or trying to impose on us ur personal believes?
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Postby halil » Sat Oct 31, 2009 10:19 pm

bill cobbett wrote:
insan wrote:
bill cobbett wrote:
halil wrote:
insan wrote:
bill cobbett wrote:
insan wrote:
bill cobbett wrote:The EU already has direct trade with the Occupied Areas for those goods which meet its standards and pass through the cease-fire lines.
_________________
BayCrap


Look, billy willy silly boy... show a little respect for ur Cy "bros" and stop ur humiliating crap! Otherwise it's not difficult for us to retaliate to u with a similar way u do! :twisted:


Reh Insan,

Are you denying that there are goods to the value of millions of euros crossing both ways across the cease-fire line?

Our Beloved Pres X, Pres of all CYs, has encouraged this movement of goods, through the Green Line Regulations, and shown true regard for the interests of all CYs. On the other hand your Bellicose, Threatening, Former Terrorist Errorgluey stopped trade across the line in Potatoes. Presumably Errorgluey was upset he wasn't getting any back-handers under the table.


Reh Billy, I'm not denying it. I'm angry with u abt the way u treat Halil and me by trying to humiliate us and not respecting. Eroglu didn't stop the potatoe trade. We discussed it here on the forum and explained u what's that potatoes issue all about. Even I and Tim posted abt how the pio.gov.cy news regarding the potatoe trade issue was garbled.

Yes, Eroglu is a bad politican for at least half of the TCs and probably for most of the GCs but he can't dare to do anything he wishes. Please get ur facts staright and be a little suspicious abt the propaganda news spread of ur pio.gov.cy boys.


Insan This billy willy boy thinks he is very cleaver .he thinks by throwing the muds on us will help his onesided ideas . In here i am trying to show him and to others there is always other alternatives too .... come to your senses the way u are going does not help at all .... by not seeing the TC's ideas as well .... By trying humulate TC's pushes away the TC's from them they never understand Insan .They thinks we are begging for them ...this is the bigger mistake they are making .... many times i told them we are not any more in 60's..... without communication ,without transportation ,without electricity, fear in our minds before we goto our beds . They all gone .......
Billy ,willy boys my friends understands my ideas, my friends knows what kind of peace agreement i want .
The way u trying to humulate TC's only helps to nationalists groups . Everyday news papers are full up with your humulation ideas in north . Keep doing u are helping them a lot .... not much time left for u to face with Eroglu .... Than u will understand better . Go on still think about as joke or treat ........


Have one thing to say to you Halil ...

... and it's very simple ......

Equal Rights for all CYs in One CY.


Ok Billy boy. It's ur opinion or arguement. Will u try to impose it on us even if we think differently and don't wish to live in a GC ruled Cyprus? If we don't accept it u will insult and humiliate us?


Insan,

Our Beloved Pres X is offering a CY ruled by CYs.

Why do you keep using the language of the Partitionists? The language of Colonial Powers when you say gc and tc.

Are you and Halil not CYs ??????


I am a Turkish Cypriot .............. I have equal saying as u are over Cyprus .

Our leader Talat as a our negotiator said very clearly and it is agreed by your negotiator Christofias as well .
BBF . with single citizanship etc..... etc...... when they started for talks and i am behind it not what your leader Christofias is offering us now.
I think Insan said very well about it at above.
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Postby insan » Sat Oct 31, 2009 10:31 pm

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you have lost the plot mate sorry.

Of course Greece is on our side just as Turkey is on yours, but there is a difference, a bloody big one.

Greece does not dictate to us nor does she make any demands on you, unlike Turkey who is calling all the shots.

Now stop being pedentic with the redicluous posts and useless quotes.

Turkey is doing this deal not the TCs and about time you realised this.

Phew! How hard can it be FGS.


Reh Insan,

Also tell us ...

Since when has Greece had a 40,000 strong Army of Occupation in CY?

When has Greece been condemned in UN Resolutions for Invasion and Occupation?

When has Greece interfered with exploration vessels in CY waters?

When has Greece been found guilty at the ECHR of violating CY rights?

Etc ... Etc ....

Any Fool, even a Propagandist one like you, can see that Talat went to receive ins
tructions yesterday in Ankara which he regurgitates today.


- Since when u illegally established the national guard which is 5x more than TC national guard.

- All UN resolutions call upon all concerned parties to... none of them condemns the so-called invasion and occupation.

- Had TCs attempted to gas exploration in Cy waters, Greece would interfere.

- Had TCs filed cases in ECHR against Greece, she would have been found guilty for many violations and crimes.


etc... etc... etc...


When right time comes Insan TC will apply for ECHR as well ......... it looks we are going towards the B plan ......... who cares the EU ....

I don't think that there will be referendum as well after Christofias last talks and saying ...most of the our GC friends were also disappointed with him what they were saying today at our meeting .

I lost my hope ,i can tell u very clearly .


Halil, Christofias put some blame on EOKA-B but on the other hand still he too do grave mistakes that significantly jeopordise a jointly agreed solution. Furthermore, he sows new seeds of hatred and animosity. AKELites have done similar mistakes throughout it's history.
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Postby repulsewarrior » Sun Nov 01, 2009 12:14 am

Unity equals three governments; two levels of government: one State and two (or many) National Assemblies.
This is Bicommunal.

Cyprus must remain a single Sovereign territory; within it there can be many parts divided into two (or many) Jurisdictions.
This is Bizonal.

We have the responsibility as Humans, everyone of us to represent our desires as Individuals, even if we choose as Persons to sustain distinct Identities.
This is the Modern Ideal to which as Cypriots we have commited ourselves to the rest of Mankind.

It is not a "Greek and Turkish" thing, it is a battle against Intolerance.
And to overcome this enemy we must reach in to ourselves beyond the fear which sustains this Ignorance.
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Postby YFred » Sun Nov 01, 2009 12:42 pm

repulsewarrior wrote:Unity equals three governments; two levels of government: one State and two (or many) National Assemblies.
This is Bicommunal.

Cyprus must remain a single Sovereign territory; within it there can be many parts divided into two (or many) Jurisdictions.
This is Bizonal.

We have the responsibility as Humans, everyone of us to represent our desires as Individuals, even if we choose as Persons to sustain distinct Identities.
This is the Modern Ideal to which as Cypriots we have commited ourselves to the rest of Mankind.

It is not a "Greek and Turkish" thing, it is a battle against Intolerance.
And to overcome this enemy we must reach in to ourselves beyond the fear which sustains this Ignorance.

RW we can wish for what we would like, but there is no must about it. It can only be one country if both sides wish it. If one does not, then nothing can make it so. Countries break up and unite constantly and thoughout history.
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Postby repulsewarrior » Mon Nov 02, 2009 5:25 am

...so what you imply is a desire to tear the island in two; a "Greek" part and a "Turkish" part, without the consideration that as a Heritance it has a value as something else, call it Cypriot if you will, far more important to us as a Family of Man. YFred, you are placing your Turkishness above any sense that as Humans we are all equal, not unlike the Greek counterparts who you criticise for the same display of Ignorance.

In Cyprus we have the opportunity to arrest this vicious display of the Intolerance by endng our subjugation to the interocutory forces which strive to resist the changes our world has gone through in its recent past. Niggers no longer hang from trees in the USA. Being Grecophone or Turcophone does not preclude each and everyone of us having a responsibility to demonsrate a respect for a future where the demographics of this island will change. We are Cypriots because we are this island's dwellers, plain and simple. If as Persons we wish to sustain distinct identities for ourselves, this is an internal matter.
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Postby YFred » Mon Nov 02, 2009 11:32 am

repulsewarrior wrote:...so what you imply is a desire to tear the island in two; a "Greek" part and a "Turkish" part, without the consideration that as a Heritance it has a value as something else, call it Cypriot if you will, far more important to us as a Family of Man. YFred, you are placing your Turkishness above any sense that as Humans we are all equal, not unlike the Greek counterparts who you criticise for the same display of Ignorance.

In Cyprus we have the opportunity to arrest this vicious display of the Intolerance by endng our subjugation to the interocutory forces which strive to resist the changes our world has gone through in its recent past. Niggers no longer hang from trees in the USA. Being Grecophone or Turcophone does not preclude each and everyone of us having a responsibility to demonsrate a respect for a future where the demographics of this island will change. We are Cypriots because we are this island's dwellers, plain and simple. If as Persons we wish to sustain distinct identities for ourselves, this is an internal matter.

If the other side does not wish to live with you, what do you do? you find your own way in the world. It's much more peacefull.

I have never wished it, but I will respect the wishes of both sides. If we can't agree, then what do we do?
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