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Postby B25 » Sat Oct 31, 2009 6:34 pm

insan wrote:
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bill cobbett wrote:Summit? More like a Bummit!

... with Mr T taking instructions from his, we ain't really at the talks, Turkish Masters.

Make your minds up fro gowd sakes. Either he gets his instructions from the Turkish Embassy or from old Eddy. If he is under their thumb so much why have a summit?
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Yfred, come on, please don't keep playing the stupid a??

Firstly, the shear fact that he is having a summit means he is not the one doing the negotiating now is he. If he has to take instructions then it stands to reason he is not the one making the decisions is he??

Ma nomizis oti eimaste toson pelli reh??


Why don't u try considering it as a consequence of strong cooperation of TRNC and Turkey regarding the solution of Cyprus Problem. Don't be so shy, admit it. :lol:


So what happened to the solution for cypriots by cypriots??

Seems we are all under the Turkish thumb, err, no thanks. They are interferring again and the RoC/UN/EU should tell them to sod off!

I don't usually agree with Cymart, but I have to say, this time he is spot on. :oops: :oops:
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Postby insan » Sat Oct 31, 2009 6:44 pm

B25 wrote:
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B25 wrote:
YFred wrote:
bill cobbett wrote:Summit? More like a Bummit!

... with Mr T taking instructions from his, we ain't really at the talks, Turkish Masters.

Make your minds up fro gowd sakes. Either he gets his instructions from the Turkish Embassy or from old Eddy. If he is under their thumb so much why have a summit?
:wink:


Yfred, come on, please don't keep playing the stupid a??

Firstly, the shear fact that he is having a summit means he is not the one doing the negotiating now is he. If he has to take instructions then it stands to reason he is not the one making the decisions is he??

Ma nomizis oti eimaste toson pelli reh??


Why don't u try considering it as a consequence of strong cooperation of TRNC and Turkey regarding the solution of Cyprus Problem. Don't be so shy, admit it. :lol:


So what happened to the solution for cypriots by cypriots??
Seems we are all under the Turkish thumb, err, no thanks. They are interferring again and the RoC/UN/EU should tell them to sod off!

I don't usually agree with Cymart, but I have to say, this time he is spot on. :oops: :oops:



Nothing happened to it. :lol: It is still a so-called situation. :lol: Weren't u aware of it? :lol:

Speaking at a joint press conference in Athens with Greek Parliament President Anna Psarouda-Benaki, Christofias, who is on an official visit to Greece, added that the Greek Cypriot side must declare its readiness to engage at any time in an initiative for a Cyprus settlement and call on the various factors to undertake initiatives.


http://www.greekembassy.org/embassy/con ... icle=14262


The Cypriot President thanked Bakoyannis and the Greek government for their support and added: “Greece is on our side and this is an answer to all those who say that Greece does not care. It has in interest in Cyprus, we maintain friendly relations, we have close cooperation.”


http://news.pseka.net/index.php?module=article&id=9097
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Postby B25 » Sat Oct 31, 2009 6:56 pm

Insan,

you have lost the plot mate sorry.

Of course Greece is on our side just as Turkey is on yours, but there is a difference, a bloody big one.

Greece does not dictate to us nor does she make any demands on you, unlike Turkey who is calling all the shots.

Now stop being pedentic with the redicluous posts and useless quotes.

Turkey is doing this deal not the TCs and about time you realised this.

Phew! How hard can it be FGS.
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Postby bill cobbett » Sat Oct 31, 2009 7:07 pm

B25 wrote:Insan,

you have lost the plot mate sorry.

Of course Greece is on our side just as Turkey is on yours, but there is a difference, a bloody big one.

Greece does not dictate to us nor does she make any demands on you, unlike Turkey who is calling all the shots.

Now stop being pedentic with the redicluous posts and useless quotes.

Turkey is doing this deal not the TCs and about time you realised this.

Phew! How hard can it be FGS.


Reh Insan,

Also tell us ...

Since when has Greece had a 40,000 strong Army of Occupation in CY?

When has Greece been condemned in UN Resolutions for Invasion and Occupation?

When has Greece interfered with exploration vessels in CY waters?

When has Greece been found guilty at the ECHR of violating CY rights?

Etc ... Etc ....

Any Fool, even a Propagandist one like you, can see that Talat went to receive instructions yesterday in Ankara which he regurgitates today.
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Postby insan » Sat Oct 31, 2009 7:09 pm

B25 wrote:Insan,

you have lost the plot mate sorry.

Of course Greece is on our side just as Turkey is on yours, but there is a difference, a bloody big one.

Greece does not dictate to us nor does she make any demands on you, unlike Turkey who is calling all the shots.

Now stop being pedentic with the redicluous posts and useless quotes.

Turkey is doing this deal not the TCs and about time you realised this.

Phew! How hard can it be FGS.


Sorry but u can't know the situation btter than TCs. If we say it's a strong and sincere cooperation between TRNC and Turkey; u should believe that it is. Stop denying this fact and make urself a rdiciluous teenage boy. :wink:
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Postby halil » Sat Oct 31, 2009 7:11 pm

Experts warn that this could be the last chance in years to reunite the island given the upcoming elections in Turkish Cyprus for a new president and a shrinking public willingness for reunification on the island, particularly among Turkish Cypriots, who voted for a UN plan to reunite Cyprus in 2004. Talat, who is pro-reunification, has said in the past he would not run for a second term if he does not see real prospects for a settlement. He is most likely to be replaced by a conservative, pro-independence leader if there is no real chance of a settlement on the island in the foreseeable future.


Last week, Davutoğlu and around 40 top diplomats held a lengthy brainstorming session to discuss steps toward a speedy settlement in Cyprus. The meeting was also attended by State Minister and chief EU negotiator Egemen Bağış.

Earlier this week, Foreign Ministry spokesperson Burak Özügergin summarized the meeting's outcome as a renewal of Turkey's willingness for “pushing for peace.” Despite noting that there was a limited time ahead due to the elections in the KKTC, Özügergin said no calendar was set for Turkey's upcoming efforts for contributing to the resolution of the Cyprus issue.

“This was not a meeting of ‘Alas, the EU is coming!' It was a meeting of ‘How do we resolve this Cyprus issue?'” Özügergin told reporters, in an implicit reference to an upcoming EU summit in December, in which the heads of state and government -- the European Council -- must decide what to do about Turkey's failure to implement its signed obligation to open its ports to Greek Cypriot air and sea traffic.

Özgürgün, when reminded by reporters yesterday of Turkey's announced approach of “pushing for peace,” said certain flexibilities could be shown in the ongoing negotiations, without making concessions on basic parameters such as political equality and the equal status of the parties. Ankara has constantly underlined its support of Talat in establishing a new partnership of two constituent states of equal status, based on political equality.

When reminded of news reports suggesting that Ankara was planning to open its ports and airports to Greek Cypriot traffic, in the case of the EU establishing direct trade with the KKTC, Özgürgün recalled that Turkey, which does not recognize the Greek Cypriot administration, has called on the EU to fulfill its commitment to end the isolation of the Turkish Cypriots as a condition for opening its ports and airports to traffic from Greek Cyprus. Özgürgün said this was the “correct” approach. However, he described an approach suggesting that ports and airports would be opened in the case of direct trade as “thought provoking,” without elaborating.



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Postby insan » Sat Oct 31, 2009 7:15 pm

bill cobbett wrote:
B25 wrote:Insan,

you have lost the plot mate sorry.

Of course Greece is on our side just as Turkey is on yours, but there is a difference, a bloody big one.

Greece does not dictate to us nor does she make any demands on you, unlike Turkey who is calling all the shots.

Now stop being pedentic with the redicluous posts and useless quotes.

Turkey is doing this deal not the TCs and about time you realised this.

Phew! How hard can it be FGS.


Reh Insan,

Also tell us ...

Since when has Greece had a 40,000 strong Army of Occupation in CY?

When has Greece been condemned in UN Resolutions for Invasion and Occupation?

When has Greece interfered with exploration vessels in CY waters?

When has Greece been found guilty at the ECHR of violating CY rights?

Etc ... Etc ....

Any Fool, even a Propagandist one like you, can see that Talat went to receive ins
tructions yesterday in Ankara which he regurgitates today.


- Since when u illegally established the national guard which is 5x more than TC national guard.

- All UN resolutions call upon all concerned parties to... none of them condemns the so-called invasion and occupation.

- Had TCs attempted to gas exploration in Cy waters, Greece would interfere.

- Had TCs filed cases in ECHR against Greece, she would have been found guilty for many violations and crimes.


etc... etc... etc...
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Postby bill cobbett » Sat Oct 31, 2009 7:18 pm

The EU already has direct trade with the Occupied Areas for those goods which meet its standards and pass through the cease-fire lines.
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Postby halil » Sat Oct 31, 2009 7:20 pm

‘Plan B is ready for Turkish Cypriots’
President Abdullah Gül and his visiting counterpart Mehmet Ali Talat confirmed that "there are alternatives" in case no settlement is reached on the island.

"Determining a timetable and the intervention of the international community will encourage a solution. We will do our best to reach a permanent settlement but there are alternatives if the process collapses. We have a Plan B," Talat told reporters in a joint conference with Gül.

Reiterating Turkey's full support for a settlement, Gül pointed out, "We will say 'no' if they propose anything outside the U.N. parameters. We call for a final solution by the end of 2010. There are other alternatives."

http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/n.php? ... 2009-10-30
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Postby halil » Sat Oct 31, 2009 7:27 pm

insan wrote:
bill cobbett wrote:
B25 wrote:Insan,

you have lost the plot mate sorry.

Of course Greece is on our side just as Turkey is on yours, but there is a difference, a bloody big one.

Greece does not dictate to us nor does she make any demands on you, unlike Turkey who is calling all the shots.

Now stop being pedentic with the redicluous posts and useless quotes.

Turkey is doing this deal not the TCs and about time you realised this.

Phew! How hard can it be FGS.


Reh Insan,

Also tell us ...

Since when has Greece had a 40,000 strong Army of Occupation in CY?

When has Greece been condemned in UN Resolutions for Invasion and Occupation?

When has Greece interfered with exploration vessels in CY waters?

When has Greece been found guilty at the ECHR of violating CY rights?

Etc ... Etc ....

Any Fool, even a Propagandist one like you, can see that Talat went to receive ins
tructions yesterday in Ankara which he regurgitates today.


- Since when u illegally established the national guard which is 5x more than TC national guard.

- All UN resolutions call upon all concerned parties to... none of them condemns the so-called invasion and occupation.

- Had TCs attempted to gas exploration in Cy waters, Greece would interfere.

- Had TCs filed cases in ECHR against Greece, she would have been found guilty for many violations and crimes.


etc... etc... etc...


When right time comes Insan TC will apply for ECHR as well ......... it looks we are going towards the B plan ......... who cares the EU ....

I don't think that there will be referendum as well after Christofias last talks and saying ...most of the our GC friends were also disappointed with him what they were saying today at our meeting .

I lost my hope ,i can tell u very clearly .
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