Get Real! wrote:Simon wrote:Get Real! wrote:Simon wrote:Get Real! wrote:Simon wrote:Firstly, many suicide bombers are/were not blowing themselves up to resist the occupation (or 'oppression'), especially in Iraq. Even the vast majority of the British troops that are dying in Helmand for instance are killed by IEDs. Most of these suicide bombers (especially in Iraq) were actually blowing themselves up in markets filled with women and children, areas packed with civilians, even mosques, in revenge attacks on certain religious communities or rival tribes. It is a type of power struggle with the intention of destabilising the country.
And who would benefit more from destabilizing these countries?
THE OCCUPIER OF COURSE!
And not to mention that “suicide bombings” were totally unheard of prior to these countries’ invasion & occupation by the US/UK!
You’re finally waking up to reality Simon!
GR, every one of your ideas, from the Greek nature of Cyprus, to the occupation of Iraq, is a far fetched conspiracy. The destabilisation of Iraq was of course not beneficial to the West. In fact, the destabilisation was the prime source of criticism for the West's actions. Explain to me how the West cajoled all these people into killing themselves. After all, money would be quite useless I suspect. It seems you are the one who needs to wake up.
Simon, I don’t know why you bother participating in political discussions with your child-like “understanding” of world affairs…
It seems that one would have to first take you through the most basic of well known techniques that colonialists and imperialists use to attain their goals against their victims, such as manufacturing consent, false flag operations, divide and rule techniques, and heaps more of prerequisite foundation knowledge that you clearly lack… but who is going to bother wasting their time teaching you all that?What about the suicide attack of 9/11? The US were not in Iraq or Afghanistan at this time. Let me guess, Bush did it. Suicide bombings have been happening all over the world for a long time, the despicable action was not invented in Iraq, but just imported there.
That’s right Simon… imported by the occupier!
Let’s add 1 + 1 for baby Simon…
Something that did NOT exist prior to the occupation but profoundly DID after the occupation can only mean that it was IMPORTED by the occupiers!
Get Real the only baby like mind here is yours. You believe every silly little conspiracy theory that is fed to you. You have not answered the question in my post, you conveniently ignore it, which tells me you have no argument, but can only resort to jejune attacks.
Please explain to me why the US want a destabilised Iraq, and why 'the surge' took place to increase security? Why the US and others are training Iraqi forces to keep the peace? Why the British have all but withdrawn, with the Americans also looking to withdraw (and already have from the cities). Again I ask, how did the US persuade so many Muslims to kill fellow Muslims so easily? You are an illogical individual GR, very little of what you say ever makes sense, and you never have the slightest shred of proof for any of your arguments. You hate the West and therefore will believe anything which puts the West in a poor light. Therefore, it is a waste of my time to debate anymore with such an irrational individual.
You and Paphitis, are some of the stupidest people I’ve ever come across so here’s an exercise for you baby Simon…
Illegal Turkish settlers on Cyprus are something that did NOT exist prior to the Turkish occupation but profoundly DID after the Turkish occupation, so would it be fair to say that the occupier IMPORTED them to Cyprus?
Oh right, so the US wants to import American settlers to repopulate Iraq once it has persuaded all the Muslims living there to wipe each other out! You are a genius GR, why didn't I see that...
You believe you can just so easily draw comparisons between Turkish settlers and suicide bombers. What an unsophisticated, naive person you are.
Again, you do not address the points in my post. Nor do you answer my questions. Calling everything 'stupid' is not an argument, not even for an incoherent individual such as yourself. You're a complete waste of time GR.