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Postby Tony-4497 » Thu Oct 29, 2009 1:06 pm

Viewpoint wrote:Tony even if Christofias pulls out there will be reprecssions as the world will realize the Cyprus problem is unsolvable taking which ever steps they feel necessary to normalise the situation.


That's why he should have respected the 8th July agreement (as he promised to do pre-election), which had international support and basically said that for official negotiations to start there should have been some common ground on key issues.

The best he can do now is focus on property/ territory before discussing anything further. He should state he has absolutely no right or authority to negotiate PRIVATE property rights of individuals (not least because of ECHR/ other court decisions/ EU acquis etc) and STOP there. No one in the international community will criticise him for doing THIS.

If common ground cannot be reached through movement of the Turkish side towards legality re properties, he should refuse to discuss anything else, because if this key issue cannot be resolved, then there cannot be a solution.
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Postby wallace » Thu Oct 29, 2009 1:18 pm

YFred wrote:
wallace wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:Tony even if Christofias pulls out there will be reprecssions as the world will realize the Cyprus problem is unsolvable taking which ever steps they feel necessary to normalise the situation.


The world allready realizes that the Cyprus problem is unsolvable due to Turkeys stance. The world also realizes that you cannot create a state on invaded and occupied land. Status quo will remain and nothing will change. You will be isolated for the coming 100 years which is what you wish for. Better isolated with 40000 guns on you and the TC culture being vaged of this world than being a minority under GC rule. Sweet dreams :lol: :lol: :lol:

We must always be prepared for future disappointments that life throws at us. We are ready for it, are you?
:wink: :lol: :lol:


We have been ready for the last 35 years, moved on and we had prosperity! Did you? :wink: :D :D
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Postby YFred » Thu Oct 29, 2009 1:32 pm

wallace wrote:
YFred wrote:
wallace wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:Tony even if Christofias pulls out there will be reprecssions as the world will realize the Cyprus problem is unsolvable taking which ever steps they feel necessary to normalise the situation.


The world allready realizes that the Cyprus problem is unsolvable due to Turkeys stance. The world also realizes that you cannot create a state on invaded and occupied land. Status quo will remain and nothing will change. You will be isolated for the coming 100 years which is what you wish for. Better isolated with 40000 guns on you and the TC culture being vaged of this world than being a minority under GC rule. Sweet dreams :lol: :lol: :lol:

We must always be prepared for future disappointments that life throws at us. We are ready for it, are you?
:wink: :lol: :lol:


We have been ready for the last 35 years, moved on and we had prosperity! Did you? :wink: :D :D

Yes thanks, but had to leave my country to be able to do it.
You'll find that this disappointment will be the mother of all disappointments.
Good luck. :wink:
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Postby growuptcs » Thu Oct 29, 2009 3:04 pm

YFred wrote:
wallace wrote:
YFred wrote:
wallace wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:Tony even if Christofias pulls out there will be reprecssions as the world will realize the Cyprus problem is unsolvable taking which ever steps they feel necessary to normalise the situation.


The world allready realizes that the Cyprus problem is unsolvable due to Turkeys stance. The world also realizes that you cannot create a state on invaded and occupied land. Status quo will remain and nothing will change. You will be isolated for the coming 100 years which is what you wish for. Better isolated with 40000 guns on you and the TC culture being vaged of this world than being a minority under GC rule. Sweet dreams :lol: :lol: :lol:

We must always be prepared for future disappointments that life throws at us. We are ready for it, are you?
:wink: :lol: :lol:


We have been ready for the last 35 years, moved on and we had prosperity! Did you? :wink: :D :D

Yes thanks, but had to leave my country to be able to do it.
You'll find that this disappointment will be the mother of all disappointments.
Good luck. :wink:


Do your empty headed beliefs and words come from Turkey or your soiled mouthpiece? Because you sound like a whore with ripped clothes telling other whores how great business is.
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Postby YFred » Thu Oct 29, 2009 3:16 pm

growuptcs wrote:
YFred wrote:
wallace wrote:
YFred wrote:
wallace wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:Tony even if Christofias pulls out there will be reprecssions as the world will realize the Cyprus problem is unsolvable taking which ever steps they feel necessary to normalise the situation.


The world allready realizes that the Cyprus problem is unsolvable due to Turkeys stance. The world also realizes that you cannot create a state on invaded and occupied land. Status quo will remain and nothing will change. You will be isolated for the coming 100 years which is what you wish for. Better isolated with 40000 guns on you and the TC culture being vaged of this world than being a minority under GC rule. Sweet dreams :lol: :lol: :lol:

We must always be prepared for future disappointments that life throws at us. We are ready for it, are you?
:wink: :lol: :lol:


We have been ready for the last 35 years, moved on and we had prosperity! Did you? :wink: :D :D

Yes thanks, but had to leave my country to be able to do it.
You'll find that this disappointment will be the mother of all disappointments.
Good luck. :wink:


Do your empty headed beliefs and words come from Turkey or your soiled mouthpiece? Because you sound like a whore with ripped clothes telling other whores how great business is.

You have just failed your Roshack Test, miserably at that. Have you seen "Le Miserables"?
I was going to offer you two tickets one for you and one for your better half, but it looks as though you have seen it too much already.
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Postby Viewpoint » Thu Oct 29, 2009 6:24 pm

wallace wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:Tony even if Christofias pulls out there will be reprecssions as the world will realize the Cyprus problem is unsolvable taking which ever steps they feel necessary to normalise the situation.


The world allready realizes that the Cyprus problem is unsolvable due to Turkeys stance. The world also realizes that you cannot create a state on invaded and occupied land. Status quo will remain and nothing will change. You will be isolated for the coming 100 years which is what you wish for. Better isolated with 40000 guns on you and the TC culture being vaged of this world than being a minority under GC rule. Sweet dreams :lol: :lol: :lol:


Exactly now you have it...Tcs will never capitulate to becoming just another minority in a GC state run by GCs, the current situation is preferred 1billion times more, if only Turkey was to blame the problem would have been solved ages ago but the world now realizes there are 2 sides to this problem and Gcs are not as innocent as they try to make out they continue to show the world their true one sided stance and inflexiblity which over time will work in our favor keep up the good work, as we have always agreed nothing stays the same and opinions change and your arrogant viewpoint with in time be dismissed therefore bringing developments that you can do absolutely nothing to stop, you can gamble by continuing your uncompromising stance and see where it takes you, 35 years of nothing says a lot obviously you are not wise enough to appreciate that you are on totally the wrong track.
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Postby Viewpoint » Thu Oct 29, 2009 6:48 pm

Tony-4497 wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:Tony even if Christofias pulls out there will be reprecssions as the world will realize the Cyprus problem is unsolvable taking which ever steps they feel necessary to normalise the situation.


That's why he should have respected the 8th July agreement (as he promised to do pre-election), which had international support and basically said that for official negotiations to start there should have been some common ground on key issues.

The best he can do now is focus on property/ territory before discussing anything further. He should state he has absolutely no right or authority to negotiate PRIVATE property rights of individuals (not least because of ECHR/ other court decisions/ EU acquis etc) and STOP there. No one in the international community will criticise him for doing THIS.

If common ground cannot be reached through movement of the Turkish side towards legality re properties, he should refuse to discuss anything else, because if this key issue cannot be resolved, then there cannot be a solution.


Property rights are imo more clear cut refugees with get the right to their properties where physically possible if not compensation will be the solution, if they choose to get their land back and live in the TC state then all and good but we have to be practicle some alnd has been used and lost forever those people will get either alternative land or compensation.
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Postby Get Real! » Thu Oct 29, 2009 7:00 pm

Viewpoint wrote:..Tcs will never capitulate to becoming just another minority in a GC state run by GCs,...

But you’ll happily wither away among the greater Turkish nation… bye-bye VP! :D
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Postby Viewpoint » Thu Oct 29, 2009 8:31 pm

Get Real! wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:..Tcs will never capitulate to becoming just another minority in a GC state run by GCs,...

But you’ll happily wither away among the greater Turkish nation… bye-bye VP! :D


100% correct.
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Postby Get Real! » Fri Oct 30, 2009 12:06 pm

Viewpoint wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:..Tcs will never capitulate to becoming just another minority in a GC state run by GCs,...

But you’ll happily wither away among the greater Turkish nation… bye-bye VP! :D


100% correct.

In Turkey thank you...
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