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Postby denizaksulu » Fri Oct 30, 2009 6:30 pm

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Bananiot wrote:I think you do not have a clue paphitis, sorry. You make, it seems, a quick internet search and you come up with the best that fits your stereotypical view of the world. In this case you came up with the spitfires but you gave up quickly. I am sure you can find the official site of the Greek Air Force that will shed ample light on the planes purchased just prior to the Italian attack. You may also encounter another fact. The size of the Greek army that faced the Italians was bigger, especially after mobilisation.

Of course, you would rather believe that the Greeks won that contest, besides being fewer and ill equipped, fighting against all odds etc, etc, relying solely on courage and Greek "leventia" but these are football terms used by morons and I have no time for them.


Rubbish. Once reinforcements arrived, the Italians had well over 500,000 men, the Greeks, less than 300,000. The Greeks were outnumbered, with inferior equipment. The Italians were considered a major power at the time, Greece was considered an insignificant dot. This makes the Greek victory all the more remarkable.

Greece did make an attempt to modernise its armed forces before the war, but much of the ordered equipment was not delivered in time for the Italian invasion, so the Greeks had to make do with what they had.


...and ofcourse then there was Haile Selasie against a 'super/superior power. The mind boggles.

I think the deciding factor usually is the defense of the fatherland/motherland; unless you are facing the German war machine.
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Postby Simon » Fri Oct 30, 2009 6:38 pm

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Bananiot wrote:I think you do not have a clue paphitis, sorry. You make, it seems, a quick internet search and you come up with the best that fits your stereotypical view of the world. In this case you came up with the spitfires but you gave up quickly. I am sure you can find the official site of the Greek Air Force that will shed ample light on the planes purchased just prior to the Italian attack. You may also encounter another fact. The size of the Greek army that faced the Italians was bigger, especially after mobilisation.

Of course, you would rather believe that the Greeks won that contest, besides being fewer and ill equipped, fighting against all odds etc, etc, relying solely on courage and Greek "leventia" but these are football terms used by morons and I have no time for them.


Rubbish. Once reinforcements arrived, the Italians had well over 500,000 men, the Greeks, less than 300,000. The Greeks were outnumbered, with inferior equipment. The Italians were considered a major power at the time, Greece was considered an insignificant dot. This makes the Greek victory all the more remarkable.

Greece did make an attempt to modernise its armed forces before the war, but much of the ordered equipment was not delivered in time for the Italian invasion, so the Greeks had to make do with what they had.


...and ofcourse then there was Haile Selasie against a 'super/superior power. The mind boggles.

I think the deciding factor usually is the defense of the fatherland/motherland; unless you are facing the German war machine.


I tend to agree, this has been an important factor with Greek and Turkish military victories in the past.
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Postby Paphitis » Fri Oct 30, 2009 11:12 pm

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denizaksulu wrote:
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Bananiot wrote:I think you do not have a clue paphitis, sorry. You make, it seems, a quick internet search and you come up with the best that fits your stereotypical view of the world. In this case you came up with the spitfires but you gave up quickly. I am sure you can find the official site of the Greek Air Force that will shed ample light on the planes purchased just prior to the Italian attack. You may also encounter another fact. The size of the Greek army that faced the Italians was bigger, especially after mobilisation.

Of course, you would rather believe that the Greeks won that contest, besides being fewer and ill equipped, fighting against all odds etc, etc, relying solely on courage and Greek "leventia" but these are football terms used by morons and I have no time for them.


Rubbish. Once reinforcements arrived, the Italians had well over 500,000 men, the Greeks, less than 300,000. The Greeks were outnumbered, with inferior equipment. The Italians were considered a major power at the time, Greece was considered an insignificant dot. This makes the Greek victory all the more remarkable.

Greece did make an attempt to modernise its armed forces before the war, but much of the ordered equipment was not delivered in time for the Italian invasion, so the Greeks had to make do with what they had.


...and ofcourse then there was Haile Selasie against a 'super/superior power. The mind boggles.

I think the deciding factor usually is the defense of the fatherland/motherland; unless you are facing the German war machine.


I tend to agree, this has been an important factor with Greek and Turkish military victories in the past.


If only the Cypriots mounted a valiant defence of their motherland in 1974 just like the Greeks did in 1940, then things may have been different.

It seems Cypriots have much to learn from the Greeks, and even the Turks before they start mouthing off with GR's bravado... :lol:
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Postby Paphitis » Fri Oct 30, 2009 11:21 pm

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Get Real! wrote:What matters when it comes to WWII is that today France, Britain, Germany, and Italy are all powerhouses whereas Greece has remained an insignificant shithole! :lol:


Read it and weep sunshine.... :lol:

The countries I listed are FINANCIAL powerhouses, and that of course also means that they are military powerhouses… make that nuclear powerhouses!

There is no comparison with the Greek shithole of stagnation… :roll:

PS: Even tiny Cyprus has surpassed Greece in many ways! :lol:


GR, Greece has a population of 11 million, therefore, economically, it is never going to be as powerful as Germany (82 million), Britain and France (over 60 million), and Italy (58 million). So please stop talking utter nonsense. The only time a country 6 times smaller is ever on equal financial terms is when the larger country is highly under developed, like India for example.

:idea: Think, Hong Kong and Singapore!

Bye-bye Simon... :lol:


There is only one way to settle this and that is to compare GDP output per capita of these nations.

4 Singapore 51,226
7 Hong Kong 43,847
19 United Kingdom 36,358
21 Germany 35,539
23 France 34,205
26 Greece 30,681
27 Italy 30,631
29 Cyprus 29,853

So Greece packs a BIG punch.... :lol: :lol:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_co ... y_GDP_(PPP)_per_capita
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Postby Get Real! » Sat Oct 31, 2009 1:44 am

Paphitis wrote:If only the Cypriots mounted a valiant defence of their motherland in 1974 just like the Greeks did in 1940, then things may have been different.

It seems Cypriots have much to learn from the Greeks, and even the Turks before they start mouthing off with GR's bravado... :lol:

This must be your dumbest post ever! :lol:

Have you ever heard of the Greek coup against Cyprus? :?
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Postby Gregory » Sat Oct 31, 2009 3:32 am

Paphitis wrote:
Simon wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
Simon wrote:
Bananiot wrote:I think you do not have a clue paphitis, sorry. You make, it seems, a quick internet search and you come up with the best that fits your stereotypical view of the world. In this case you came up with the spitfires but you gave up quickly. I am sure you can find the official site of the Greek Air Force that will shed ample light on the planes purchased just prior to the Italian attack. You may also encounter another fact. The size of the Greek army that faced the Italians was bigger, especially after mobilisation.

Of course, you would rather believe that the Greeks won that contest, besides being fewer and ill equipped, fighting against all odds etc, etc, relying solely on courage and Greek "leventia" but these are football terms used by morons and I have no time for them.


Rubbish. Once reinforcements arrived, the Italians had well over 500,000 men, the Greeks, less than 300,000. The Greeks were outnumbered, with inferior equipment. The Italians were considered a major power at the time, Greece was considered an insignificant dot. This makes the Greek victory all the more remarkable.

Greece did make an attempt to modernise its armed forces before the war, but much of the ordered equipment was not delivered in time for the Italian invasion, so the Greeks had to make do with what they had.


...and ofcourse then there was Haile Selasie against a 'super/superior power. The mind boggles.

I think the deciding factor usually is the defense of the fatherland/motherland; unless you are facing the German war machine.


I tend to agree, this has been an important factor with Greek and Turkish military victories in the past.


If only the Cypriots mounted a valiant defence of their motherland in 1974 just like the Greeks did in 1940, then things may have been different.

It seems Cypriots have much to learn from the Greeks, and even the Turks before they start mouthing off with GR's bravado... :lol:


Personally I take great offence to this statement.

The junta and the treasonous Greek officers (barring ELDYK) kept the arsenal locked up as per agreement with the Turks and yet the Cypriots still went to war.
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Postby denizaksulu » Sat Oct 31, 2009 12:15 pm

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Paphitis wrote:
Simon wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
Simon wrote:
Bananiot wrote:I think you do not have a clue paphitis, sorry. You make, it seems, a quick internet search and you come up with the best that fits your stereotypical view of the world. In this case you came up with the spitfires but you gave up quickly. I am sure you can find the official site of the Greek Air Force that will shed ample light on the planes purchased just prior to the Italian attack. You may also encounter another fact. The size of the Greek army that faced the Italians was bigger, especially after mobilisation.

Of course, you would rather believe that the Greeks won that contest, besides being fewer and ill equipped, fighting against all odds etc, etc, relying solely on courage and Greek "leventia" but these are football terms used by morons and I have no time for them.


Rubbish. Once reinforcements arrived, the Italians had well over 500,000 men, the Greeks, less than 300,000. The Greeks were outnumbered, with inferior equipment. The Italians were considered a major power at the time, Greece was considered an insignificant dot. This makes the Greek victory all the more remarkable.

Greece did make an attempt to modernise its armed forces before the war, but much of the ordered equipment was not delivered in time for the Italian invasion, so the Greeks had to make do with what they had.


...and ofcourse then there was Haile Selasie against a 'super/superior power. The mind boggles.

I think the deciding factor usually is the defense of the fatherland/motherland; unless you are facing the German war machine.


I tend to agree, this has been an important factor with Greek and Turkish military victories in the past.


If only the Cypriots mounted a valiant defence of their motherland in 1974 just like the Greeks did in 1940, then things may have been different.

It seems Cypriots have much to learn from the Greeks, and even the Turks before they start mouthing off with GR's bravado... :lol:


Personally I take great offence to this statement.

The junta and the treasonous Greek officers (barring ELDYK) kept the arsenal locked up as per agreement with the Turks and yet the Cypriots still went to war.



You say locked up!!!

It was almost a daily we would read in the Cyprus press of occurences when arms depots and police stations were raided and emptied of its weapons by 'terrorists' (Junta supporters + disaffected Cypriots).
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Postby yialousa1971 » Sat Oct 31, 2009 7:29 pm

Get Real! wrote:
Paphitis wrote:If only the Cypriots mounted a valiant defence of their motherland in 1974 just like the Greeks did in 1940, then things may have been different.

It seems Cypriots have much to learn from the Greeks, and even the Turks before they start mouthing off with GR's bravado... :lol:

This must be your dumbest post ever! :lol:

Have you ever heard of the Greek coup against Cyprus? :?


But your post is just as dumb, the invasion of Cyprus was pre planned by NWO (Jews, Anglos and Americans). All of the evidence proves this, Anglos supplying Turks with arms, Kissinger with his anti Hellenic crap etc.
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Postby YFred » Sun Nov 01, 2009 12:22 am

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Paphitis wrote:If only the Cypriots mounted a valiant defence of their motherland in 1974 just like the Greeks did in 1940, then things may have been different.

It seems Cypriots have much to learn from the Greeks, and even the Turks before they start mouthing off with GR's bravado... :lol:

This must be your dumbest post ever! :lol:

Have you ever heard of the Greek coup against Cyprus? :?


But your post is just as dumb, the invasion of Cyprus was pre planned by NWO (Jews, Anglos and Americans). All of the evidence proves this, Anglos supplying Turks with arms, Kissinger with his anti Hellenic crap etc.

I was certain it was planned by the cretins from Greece and they didn't ask the opinion of the true Cretans :wink:
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Postby Paphitis » Sun Nov 01, 2009 5:54 am

Get Real! wrote:
Paphitis wrote:If only the Cypriots mounted a valiant defence of their motherland in 1974 just like the Greeks did in 1940, then things may have been different.

It seems Cypriots have much to learn from the Greeks, and even the Turks before they start mouthing off with GR's bravado... :lol:

This must be your dumbest post ever! :lol:

Have you ever heard of the Greek coup against Cyprus? :?


Yes I have heard of the Greek Coup against Cyprus.

You are the one mouthing off about Greece and Turkey, when all along both have proven their gallantry in WW1, WW2 and Korea while Cypriots have done nothing of the sought anywhere with the exception of a few EOKA fighters!
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