Cyprus-Forum.com

[Tim Drayton]

OXI!!
OXI to whatever keeps as away from freedom..
+ to whatever takes our dreams unfairly away
+ to the egotistic games politicians play..

anw..! but here is a point..
HOOOOW ON EARTH teachers expect as to celebrate this day when they give a mountain of homework?! what's the point?! u stay home and study hw, doing projects, studing quizes.. it happens to these types of celebration days every single year..
RELAX PPL.. LIVE THE CHILDREN ALOo0o0o0oONE
oooooooooooooooooxi tou homework overall.. =]

How old are you?

16

Have you done your home work for today. Casue if you have not, you are getting detention. I hope you realise that.

What's your game, old mate?

I was under the impression that only Kicks baby was allowed to delve into such analysis followed by incredible accusation based on such feeble circumstantial evidence. If I look at the moon and the moon has craters in it, then he will accuse me of causing them. How would I know that they were there to look at?
I meant bloody detention, what do you think I meant? Have you seen Blackadder?

Don't overreact old fellow. I was just going to ask if I could play, too.

[Gregory]

Greeks in World War II
Greece, during World War II, was the only country that was forced
to confront the armies of four countries simultaneously: Albania, Italy, Germany, Bulgaria.

DURATION OF RESISTANCE (in days)

Greece 219
Norway 61
France 43 (The superpower at the time)
Poland 30
Belgium 18
Holland 4
Yugoslavia 3
Czechoslovakia 0
Luxemburg 0
Denmark 0 (The Danes surrendered to a Hitler's motorcyclist who
was conveying Hitler's request to the Danish king for the crossing of the
Nazi armies. The Danish king indicating submission surrendered his
Crown to the motorcyclist to take to Berlin and Hitler....)

Quotes on/about the Greeks

Adolph Hitler
“For the sake of historical truth I must verify that only the Greeks, of all the adversaries who confronted us, fought with bold courage and highest disregard of death.."

Winston Churchill (From a speech he delivered from the BBC in the first days of the Greco-Italian war)
"The word heroism I am afraid does not render the least of those acts of self-sacrifice of the Greeks, which were the defining factor in the
victorious outcome of the common struggle of the nations, during WWII, for the human freedom and dignity. If it were not for the bravery of the Greeks and their courage, the outcome of WW II would be undetermined."
“Until now we used to say that the Greeks fight like heroes.
Now we shall say: The heroes fight like Greeks."

Sir Harold Leofric George Alexander (British Field Marshal during WWII - Paraphrased from a speech of his to the British parliament on 28 October 1941)
"It would not be an exaggeration to say that Greece upset the plans of Germany in their entirety forcing her to postpone the attack on Russia for six weeks. We wonder what would have been Soviet Union's position without Greece."

Joseph Stalin
(From a speech of his broadcast by the Moscow radio station on 31 January 1943 after the victory of Stalingrad and the capitulation of German 6th Army Field Marshal Von Paulus).
"I am sorry because I am getting old and I shall not live long to thank the Greek People, whose resistance decided WW II."

Georgy Constantinovich Zhoukov (Field Marshal of the Soviet Army: Quote from his memoirs on WWII)
"If the Russian people managed to raise resistance at the doors of Moscow to halt and reverse the German torrent, they owe it to the Greek People, who delayed the German divisions during the time they could bring us to our knees."

Charles de Gaul (From a speech of his to the French Parliament after the end of WWII).
"I am unable to give the proper breadth of gratitude I feel for the heroic resistance of the People and the leaders of Greece."

Maurice Schumann Minister of the exterior of France 1969-1973, member of the French Academy 1974
"Greece is the symbol of the tortured, bloodied but live Europe. Never a defeat was so honorable for those who suffered it."

Benito Mussolini
(From speech he delivered on 10/5/1941)
"The war with Greece proved that nothing is firm in the military and that surprises always await us."

Franklin D Roosevelt, US President 1933 – 1945
"On the 28th of October 1940 Greece was given a deadline of three hours to decide on war or peace but even if a three day or three week or three year were given, the response would have been the same. The Greeks taught dignity throughout the centuries. When the entire world had lost all hope, the Greek people dared to question the invincibility of the German monster raising against it the proud spirit of freedom."
The heroic struggle of the Greek people... Against Germany 's attack, after she so thunderously defeated the Italians in their attempt to invade
the Greek soil, filled the hearts of the American people with enthusiasm and moved their compassion.


A German officer of the air force declared to the commander of the Eastern Macedonia division group, Lieutenant General Dedes, that the Greek Army was the first army on which the Stuka fighter planes did not cause panic.

"Your soldiers" he said, "instead of fleeing frantically, as they did in France and Poland, were shooting at us from their positions."

[YFred]

I wonder what the Greek General meant when he said "I would rather fire towards Athens than Turkey". What did he know that you guys don't seem to get?
What stopped the Greeks joining in 1974 and opening a northern front in Trakya. They could have taken Constantinople and Smirni and half of Anadolu too.

[YFred]

OXI!!
OXI to whatever keeps as away from freedom..
+ to whatever takes our dreams unfairly away
+ to the egotistic games politicians play..

anw..! but here is a point..
HOOOOW ON EARTH teachers expect as to celebrate this day when they give a mountain of homework?! what's the point?! u stay home and study hw, doing projects, studing quizes.. it happens to these types of celebration days every single year..
RELAX PPL.. LIVE THE CHILDREN ALOo0o0o0oONE
oooooooooooooooooxi tou homework overall.. =]

How old are you?

16

Have you done your home work for today. Casue if you have not, you are getting detention. I hope you realise that.

What's your game, old mate?

I was under the impression that only Kicks baby was allowed to delve into such analysis followed by incredible accusation based on such feeble circumstantial evidence. If I look at the moon and the moon has craters in it, then he will accuse me of causing them. How would I know that they were there to look at?
I meant bloody detention, what do you think I meant? Have you seen Blackadder?

Don't overreact old fellow. I was just going to ask if I could play, too.

Unfortunatly All I ever saw as a kid was Turkish films and overacting.
Sorry about that I'll try and make it more realistic. I must reserve my energies for overacting for Kicks baby's posts.

[insan]

Greeks in World War II
Greece, during World War II, was the only country that was forced
to confront the armies of four countries simultaneously: Albania, Italy, Germany, Bulgaria.

DURATION OF RESISTANCE (in days)

Greece 219
Norway 61
France 43 (The superpower at the time)
Poland 30
Belgium 18
Holland 4
Yugoslavia 3
Czechoslovakia 0
Luxemburg 0
Denmark 0 (The Danes surrendered to a Hitler's motorcyclist who
was conveying Hitler's request to the Danish king for the crossing of the
Nazi armies. The Danish king indicating submission surrendered his
Crown to the motorcyclist to take to Berlin and Hitler....)

Quotes on/about the Greeks

Adolph Hitler
“For the sake of historical truth I must verify that only the Greeks, of all the adversaries who confronted us, fought with bold courage and highest disregard of death.."

Winston Churchill (From a speech he delivered from the BBC in the first days of the Greco-Italian war)
"The word heroism I am afraid does not render the least of those acts of self-sacrifice of the Greeks, which were the defining factor in the
victorious outcome of the common struggle of the nations, during WWII, for the human freedom and dignity. If it were not for the bravery of the Greeks and their courage, the outcome of WW II would be undetermined."
“Until now we used to say that the Greeks fight like heroes.
Now we shall say: The heroes fight like Greeks."

Sir Harold Leofric George Alexander (British Field Marshal during WWII - Paraphrased from a speech of his to the British parliament on 28 October 1941)
"It would not be an exaggeration to say that Greece upset the plans of Germany in their entirety forcing her to postpone the attack on Russia for six weeks. We wonder what would have been Soviet Union's position without Greece."

Joseph Stalin
(From a speech of his broadcast by the Moscow radio station on 31 January 1943 after the victory of Stalingrad and the capitulation of German 6th Army Field Marshal Von Paulus).
"I am sorry because I am getting old and I shall not live long to thank the Greek People, whose resistance decided WW II."

Georgy Constantinovich Zhoukov (Field Marshal of the Soviet Army: Quote from his memoirs on WWII)
"If the Russian people managed to raise resistance at the doors of Moscow to halt and reverse the German torrent, they owe it to the Greek People, who delayed the German divisions during the time they could bring us to our knees."

Charles de Gaul (From a speech of his to the French Parliament after the end of WWII).
"I am unable to give the proper breadth of gratitude I feel for the heroic resistance of the People and the leaders of Greece."

Maurice Schumann Minister of the exterior of France 1969-1973, member of the French Academy 1974
"Greece is the symbol of the tortured, bloodied but live Europe. Never a defeat was so honorable for those who suffered it."

Benito Mussolini
(From speech he delivered on 10/5/1941)
"The war with Greece proved that nothing is firm in the military and that surprises always await us."

Franklin D Roosevelt, US President 1933 – 1945
"On the 28th of October 1940 Greece was given a deadline of three hours to decide on war or peace but even if a three day or three week or three year were given, the response would have been the same. The Greeks taught dignity throughout the centuries. When the entire world had lost all hope, the Greek people dared to question the invincibility of the German monster raising against it the proud spirit of freedom."
The heroic struggle of the Greek people... Against Germany 's attack, after she so thunderously defeated the Italians in their attempt to invade
the Greek soil, filled the hearts of the American people with enthusiasm and moved their compassion.


A German officer of the air force declared to the commander of the Eastern Macedonia division group, Lieutenant General Dedes, that the Greek Army was the first army on which the Stuka fighter planes did not cause panic.

"Your soldiers" he said, "instead of fleeing frantically, as they did in France and Poland, were shooting at us from their positions."

There's no even just a single word mentioning the name of General Metaxas... so... is he remembered as a hero or as a fascist dictator?

[Melan]

OXI!!
OXI to whatever keeps as away from freedom..
+ to whatever takes our dreams unfairly away
+ to the egotistic games politicians play..

anw..! but here is a point..
HOOOOW ON EARTH teachers expect as to celebrate this day when they give a mountain of homework?! what's the point?! u stay home and study hw, doing projects, studing quizes.. it happens to these types of celebration days every single year..
RELAX PPL.. LIVE THE CHILDREN ALOo0o0o0oONE
oooooooooooooooooxi tou homework overall.. =]

How old are you?

16

Have you done your home work for today. Casue if you have not, you are getting detention. I hope you realise that.

What's your game, old mate?

I was under the impression that only Kicks baby was allowed to delve into such analysis followed by incredible accusation based on such feeble circumstantial evidence. If I look at the moon and the moon has craters in it, then he will accuse me of causing them. How would I know that they were there to look at?
I meant bloody detention, what do you think I meant? Have you seen Blackadder?

Don't overreact old fellow. I was just going to ask if I could play, too.

Unfortunatly All I ever saw as a kid was Turkish films and overacting.
Sorry about that I'll try and make it more realistic. I must reserve my energies for overacting for Kicks baby's posts.

hihi! what's all this about? xD
no.. i just did a part of my homework..

[Bananiot]

No doubt the Greeks fought heroically in 1940 but one needs to remember that they had the right alliances that also gave them inner strenght. Greece fought side by side with the Americans, Soviets, English etc and this goes to prove that in any struggle one needs to be on the "right" side first.

I also think that the most heroic act of the Greek people was performed by the resistance fighters, led by Captain Aris Velouchiotis:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DDd5w9nefec

[denizaksulu]

There is no doubt that the Greeks fought valiantly against the Nazi onslaught, but also one must remember the distances of resupply by the Germans. It must have been a logistical nightmare. The mountanous terrrain was also a great aid to the Greeks. Ofcourse the Kleftiko and Ouzo was also a great allie

As to 1974, we all know they were not 'allowed' to wreck the southern flank of NATO.

[Gregory]

No doubt the Greeks fought heroically in 1940 but one needs to remember that they had the right alliances that also gave them inner strenght. Greece fought side by side with the Americans, Soviets, English etc and this goes to prove that in any struggle one needs to be on the "right" side first.

I also think that the most heroic act of the Greek people was performed by the resistance fighters, led by Captain Aris Velouchiotis:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DDd5w9nefec

You're correct about the right alliances Bananiot, however on the mountains of Albania the Greeks were fighting alone.

I don't want to get confrontational on this issue but I wonder what would have happened if the Greeks sat down with the Italians and negotiated a "feasible" settlement to the Italian ambassadors ultimatum.

[Gregory]

Greeks in World War II
Greece, during World War II, was the only country that was forced
to confront the armies of four countries simultaneously: Albania, Italy, Germany, Bulgaria.

DURATION OF RESISTANCE (in days)

Greece 219
Norway 61
France 43 (The superpower at the time)
Poland 30
Belgium 18
Holland 4
Yugoslavia 3
Czechoslovakia 0
Luxemburg 0
Denmark 0 (The Danes surrendered to a Hitler's motorcyclist who
was conveying Hitler's request to the Danish king for the crossing of the
Nazi armies. The Danish king indicating submission surrendered his
Crown to the motorcyclist to take to Berlin and Hitler....)

Quotes on/about the Greeks

Adolph Hitler
“For the sake of historical truth I must verify that only the Greeks, of all the adversaries who confronted us, fought with bold courage and highest disregard of death.."

Winston Churchill (From a speech he delivered from the BBC in the first days of the Greco-Italian war)
"The word heroism I am afraid does not render the least of those acts of self-sacrifice of the Greeks, which were the defining factor in the
victorious outcome of the common struggle of the nations, during WWII, for the human freedom and dignity. If it were not for the bravery of the Greeks and their courage, the outcome of WW II would be undetermined."
“Until now we used to say that the Greeks fight like heroes.
Now we shall say: The heroes fight like Greeks."

Sir Harold Leofric George Alexander (British Field Marshal during WWII - Paraphrased from a speech of his to the British parliament on 28 October 1941)
"It would not be an exaggeration to say that Greece upset the plans of Germany in their entirety forcing her to postpone the attack on Russia for six weeks. We wonder what would have been Soviet Union's position without Greece."

Joseph Stalin
(From a speech of his broadcast by the Moscow radio station on 31 January 1943 after the victory of Stalingrad and the capitulation of German 6th Army Field Marshal Von Paulus).
"I am sorry because I am getting old and I shall not live long to thank the Greek People, whose resistance decided WW II."

Georgy Constantinovich Zhoukov (Field Marshal of the Soviet Army: Quote from his memoirs on WWII)
"If the Russian people managed to raise resistance at the doors of Moscow to halt and reverse the German torrent, they owe it to the Greek People, who delayed the German divisions during the time they could bring us to our knees."

Charles de Gaul (From a speech of his to the French Parliament after the end of WWII).
"I am unable to give the proper breadth of gratitude I feel for the heroic resistance of the People and the leaders of Greece."

Maurice Schumann Minister of the exterior of France 1969-1973, member of the French Academy 1974
"Greece is the symbol of the tortured, bloodied but live Europe. Never a defeat was so honorable for those who suffered it."

Benito Mussolini
(From speech he delivered on 10/5/1941)
"The war with Greece proved that nothing is firm in the military and that surprises always await us."

Franklin D Roosevelt, US President 1933 – 1945
"On the 28th of October 1940 Greece was given a deadline of three hours to decide on war or peace but even if a three day or three week or three year were given, the response would have been the same. The Greeks taught dignity throughout the centuries. When the entire world had lost all hope, the Greek people dared to question the invincibility of the German monster raising against it the proud spirit of freedom."
The heroic struggle of the Greek people... Against Germany 's attack, after she so thunderously defeated the Italians in their attempt to invade
the Greek soil, filled the hearts of the American people with enthusiasm and moved their compassion.


A German officer of the air force declared to the commander of the Eastern Macedonia division group, Lieutenant General Dedes, that the Greek Army was the first army on which the Stuka fighter planes did not cause panic.

"Your soldiers" he said, "instead of fleeing frantically, as they did in France and Poland, were shooting at us from their positions."

There's no even just a single word mentioning the name of General Metaxas... so... is he remembered as a hero or as a fascist dictator?

A fascist dictator that took a brave and correct decision against someone he was ideologically allied with.

Who did Turkey side with? The Nazi's or the allies?