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Turkey Guilty At ECHR - Second Time Today

Postby bill cobbett » Wed Oct 28, 2009 1:37 am

Turkey has been found guilty and fined for a second time today at the ECHR for its lack of respect for the Right to Life of CYs.

This is the matter of Mrs Andreou, a GB National, who was in the crowd near the buffer zone when our brother Solomon was killed a few years ago. The Turkish Army had shot indiscriminately in to the crowd injuring a couple of GB/UN Peacekeepers in the back and very seriously injuring Mrs Andreou who had to undergo traumatic surgery to save her life and whose injuries led to, what I believe, to be an early death.

Turkey was found guilty again today for violations of Article 2, showing another disregard for the Right to Life. Her family were awarded damages and costs today.


From http://cmiskp.echr.coe.int/tkp197/view. ... udoc-pr-en


Press release issued by the Registrar
Chamber judgment1
Andreou v. Turkey (application no. 45653/99)
BRITISH NATIONAL SHOT AND INJURED BY TURKISH ARMED FORCES DURING TENSIONS AT UNITED NATIONS BUFFER ZONE IN CYPRUS
Violation of Article 2 (right to life)
of the European Convention on Human Rights
Under Article 41 (just satisfaction) of the Convention, the Court awarded Ms Andreou’s husband and children 585.68 euros (EUR) in respect of pecuniary damage, EUR 40,000 in respect of non-pecuniary damage and EUR 10,000 in respect of costs and expenses.
(The judgment is available only in English)
Principal facts
The applicant, Georgia Andreou, now deceased, was a British national who was born in 1936 and lived in Larnaca (Cyprus).
The case concerned Ms Andreou’s complaint that she was shot and injured by the Turkish armed forces on 14 August 1996 during tensions at the United Nations buffer zone near Dherynia (Cyprus).
The incident occurred when, having attended the funeral of a friend’s son, Anastasios Isaak– kicked and beaten to death by Turkish-Cypriot policemen and counter-demonstrators three days earlier at a motorcycle rally in protest against the Turkish occupation of the northern part of Cyprus2 – Ms Andreou went to the spot of the killing and, remaining outside the UN buffer zone, looked on, with others, at the ensuing tensions between Greek-Cypriot demonstrators and the Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus (“TRNC”) authorities. She witnessed Solomos Solomou2 enter the buffer zone and, in protest, climb up a flagpole flying the Turkish flag; he was shot and subsequently died from his injuries. Immediately after the shooting, Turkish or Turkish-Cypriot soldiers opened fire on the crowd inside the buffer zone.
Ms Andreou, although outside the buffer zone, sustained a serious gunshot wound to her abdomen; she was immediately taken to hospital where she was operated on.
According to a press release subsequently issued by the UN Forces in Cyprus (UNFICYP), two of its high-ranking members had seen uniformed Turkish or Turkish-Cypriot military personnel kneeling down and firing in the direction of the demonstrators inside the UN buffer zone. As a result, two British UNFICYP soldiers and two Greek-Cypriot civilians (one of whom was the applicant) were hit by gunfire. This version of events was also confirmed in a report by the UN Secretary.
Four medical certificates submitted stated that Ms Andreou had had three operations, which included removal of the right kidney and of pancreatic tissue, stitching of the liver and a colostomy. Following the incident in 1996 and until her death in November 2005, she developed numerous conditions, including pleuritis, post-traumatic stress and depression.
Complaints, procedure and composition of the Court
Relying on Article 2, Ms Andreou alleged that her life had been put in serious danger. She also alleged that the use of excessive force against her had amounted to inhuman treatment and had had lasting effects on her physical and mental health, in breach of Articles 3 (prohibition of inhuman and degrading treatment) and 8 (right to respect for private life).
The application was lodged with the European Court of Human Rights on 12 February 1997 and declared admissible on 3 June 2008.
Judgment was given by a Chamber of seven judges, composed as follows:
Nicolas Bratza (the United Kingdom), President,
Lech Garlicki (Poland),
Giovanni Bonello (Malta),
Ljiljana Mijovi? (Bosnia and Herzegovina),
David Thór Björgvinsson (Iceland),
Ledi Bianku (Albania),
I??l Karaka? (Turkey), judges,

and also Fato? Arac?, Deputy Section Registrar.
Decision of the Court
The Court had no reason to doubt the independence and trustworthiness of the UNFICYP and the UN Secretary General; moreover, their description of the events of 14 August 1996 was based on eyewitness statements. The indiscriminate and unwarranted firing into the crowd which was gathering inside and outside the buffer zone had put numerous lives at risk. The fact that the applicant had not been killed was fortuitous. Nor was the seriousness of her injuries, corroborated by the medical reports, in dispute between the parties. The Court therefore considered that, irrespective of whether or not the soldiers had actually intended to kill Ms Andreou, she had been the victim of conduct which by its very nature had put her life at risk, even though, in the event, she had actually survived. Article 2 was therefore applicable in the applicant’s case.
The Court was of the opinion that the firing into the crowd on 14 August 1996 had constituted a disproportionate use of force in the circumstances and could not be justified by the argument, as suggested by the Government, that it had been necessary to quell “a riot or insurrection”. Even though the demonstrators, who had sticks and iron bars, had been throwing stones at the Turkish forces, such firing could and did cause serious injuries to demonstrators, bystanders and members of the UN forces. Indeed, according to eyewitnesses, the opening of fire had been totally unwarranted and not even preceded by a warning shot. It thus appeared to be a preventive measure, taken to discourage further violence before the crowd had the time to react to the shooting of Mr Solomou.
The excessive force used against Ms Andreou had not therefore been made necessary by the state of heightened tension of the demonstration; nor had it been made necessary by her own behaviour. She had not been armed, behaved in a violent manner, offered any resistance to the police or posed a threat to public order. Moreover, she had not crossed the ceasefire line making it “absolutely necessary” to “effect a lawful arrest”; she had been hit by the bullet while standing outside the UN buffer zone.
Finally, Turkey had failed to indicate whether its security forces had been given clear instructions and appropriate training to avoid arbitrary and/or abusive use of potentially lethal force.
The use of potentially lethal force against the applicant had not therefore been “absolutely necessary” and had not been justified by any of the exceptions permitted under Article 2. Accordingly, the Court held unanimously that there had been a violation of that Article.
Given that conclusion, the Court further held unanimously that it was not necessary to examine the applicant’s complaints under Articles 3 and 8.
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Postby YFred » Thu Oct 29, 2009 1:07 am

179,998 to go.
There is only one way, peace agreement.
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Postby GeorgeV97qaue » Thu Oct 29, 2009 1:35 am

YFred wrote:179,998 to go.
There is only one way, peace agreement.


No way YFRED Turkey must pay for her crimes.

She should pay compensation for every single person she has harmed regardless of any peace agreement.

Why should Turkey be allowed to get away scot free for what she has done?
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Postby YFred » Thu Oct 29, 2009 1:46 am

GeorgeV97qaue wrote:
YFred wrote:179,998 to go.
There is only one way, peace agreement.


No way YFRED Turkey must pay for her crimes.

She should pay compensation for every single person she has harmed regardless of any peace agreement.

Why should Turkey be allowed to get away scot free for what she has done?

If all countries paid for their crimes, USA will be infront of the que followed by the rest fo the UN Security council members one by one. Turkey wouldn't get a look in. If it is paying for crimes committed by countries you are after at least be fair and proportional.
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Postby Gregory » Thu Oct 29, 2009 2:18 am

YFred wrote:
GeorgeV97qaue wrote:
YFred wrote:179,998 to go.
There is only one way, peace agreement.


No way YFRED Turkey must pay for her crimes.

She should pay compensation for every single person she has harmed regardless of any peace agreement.

Why should Turkey be allowed to get away scot free for what she has done?

If all countries paid for their crimes, USA will be infront of the que followed by the rest fo the UN Security council members one by one. Turkey wouldn't get a look in. If it is paying for crimes committed by countries you are after at least be fair and proportional.


The Iraqis can't afford to take the US to court. We can keep Turkey in the ECHR till 2087.
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Postby Me Ed » Thu Oct 29, 2009 2:29 am

YFred wrote:
GeorgeV97qaue wrote:
YFred wrote:179,998 to go.
There is only one way, peace agreement.


No way YFRED Turkey must pay for her crimes.

She should pay compensation for every single person she has harmed regardless of any peace agreement.

Why should Turkey be allowed to get away scot free for what she has done?

If all countries paid for their crimes, USA will be infront of the que followed by the rest fo the UN Security council members one by one. Turkey wouldn't get a look in. If it is paying for crimes committed by countries you are after at least be fair and proportional.

Unfortunately YFred, Turkey does not have the dashaks to stand up to the US or EU - what a whore?
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Postby Nikitas » Mon Nov 02, 2009 11:14 pm

NATO's best army at its best disciplined reaction. No doubt there were those weirdo generals there with their designer sunglasses and entourage of orderlies playing pasha as they looked on the panicked soldiers firing into the crowd.
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Postby Oracle » Mon Nov 02, 2009 11:31 pm

All these Greek Cypriots which Turkey has killed in cold blood will remain forever in the highest moral standing of humanity. In this way they were not harmed as human beings. Turkey only harms itself, many-fold, each time she commits these crimes.
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Postby YFred » Tue Nov 03, 2009 12:05 am

Oracle wrote:All these Greek Cypriots which Turkey has killed in cold blood will remain forever in the highest moral standing of humanity. In this way they were not harmed as human beings. Turkey only harms itself, many-fold, each time she commits these crimes.

By your logic then, the more GCs she kills the more harm she does to her self. What do you suggest that she kills all the GCs for maximum pain. Get some help, for gowd sake.
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Postby bill cobbett » Tue Nov 03, 2009 12:48 am

YFred wrote:
Oracle wrote:All these Greek Cypriots which Turkey has killed in cold blood will remain forever in the highest moral standing of humanity. In this way they were not harmed as human beings. Turkey only harms itself, many-fold, each time she commits these crimes.

By your logic then, the more GCs she kills the more harm she does to her self. What do you suggest that she kills all the GCs for maximum pain. Get some help, for gowd sake.


Rah Fredoulla, your contributions to this thread have not been terribly pleasant. Show some respect rah or at least have the good sence hold your tongue.
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