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[Viewpoint]

Piratis your hate for TCs and Turkey knows no bounds...your only aim is land and the monopoly to rule as you wish...you dont give a shit about our rights how do you expect us to place our future in your hands? The current division is 1000 time more preferred to uniting with your mindset.

[YFred]

Regarding fair access, I mean outnumbering the solutionists 4 to 1 on any debate and the Chair who should not be biased laughing at a comment a solutionist makes ridiculing him or making people walk off a debate through unfair treatment.

Regarding the Alcohol problem in USA, are you suggesting that prohibition if applied now would be better?

Regarding Heroin, why not legalise it and control its strength. Criminalising it does not stop people from using it, encourages people to steal to be able to buy it. It is the main driver of criminal activity. In my opinion cigarettes, alcohol, cannabis and heroine are no different. Banning them simply drives them underground. It takes balls to actually do what is necessary and good for all the population.

[Tim Drayton]

Regarding fair access, I mean outnumbering the solutionists 4 to 1 on any debate and the Chair who should not be biased laughing at a comment a solutionist makes ridiculing him or making people walk off a debate through unfair treatment.

Regarding the Alcohol problem in USA, are you suggesting that prohibition if applied now would be better?

Regarding Heroin, why not legalise it and control its strength. Criminalising it does not stop people from using it, encourages people to steal to be able to buy it. It is the main driver of criminal activity. In my opinion cigarettes, alcohol, cannabis and heroine are no different. Banning them simply drives them underground. It takes balls to actually do what is necessary and good for all the population.

Fred, I have often had similar thoughts to you about the trade in narcotics. But I wonder if other considerations mitigate against their legalisation. Just think, it is precisely because trade in these substances is illegal that prices remain artificially high and this business is controlled by criminal gangs. In other words, small groups of people have monoply control over a very profitable business. I wonder just how high the tentacles of corruption in connection with this business stretch? It could be that they go far higher than we think. If this is so, there may be very powerful and apparently legitimate people who actually owe their wealth and prominence to the drugs trade. If these suspicions are correct, then drugs will never be made legal. These people would not be able to make the same easy money in a genuinely competitive market.

[YFred]

Regarding fair access, I mean outnumbering the solutionists 4 to 1 on any debate and the Chair who should not be biased laughing at a comment a solutionist makes ridiculing him or making people walk off a debate through unfair treatment.

Regarding the Alcohol problem in USA, are you suggesting that prohibition if applied now would be better?

Regarding Heroin, why not legalise it and control its strength. Criminalising it does not stop people from using it, encourages people to steal to be able to buy it. It is the main driver of criminal activity. In my opinion cigarettes, alcohol, cannabis and heroine are no different. Banning them simply drives them underground. It takes balls to actually do what is necessary and good for all the population.

Fred, I have often had similar thoughts to you about the trade in narcotics. But I wonder if other considerations mitigate against their legalisation. Just think, it is precisely because trade in these substances is illegal that prices remain artificially high and this business is controlled by criminal gangs. In other words, small groups of people have monoply control over a very profitable business. I wonder just how high the tentacles of corruption in connection with this business stretch? It could be that they go far higher than we think. If this is so, there may be very powerful and apparently legitimate people who actually owe their wealth and prominence to the drugs trade. If these suspicions are correct, then drugs will never be made legal. These people would not be able to make the same easy money in a genuinely competitive market.

In the 50's there were powerful interests that objected to setting up the NHS in UK. It took a politician with balls to outwit them and set it up. Just like in USA, the question is does Obama has what it takes. It will take a bloody good politician to drive it through. They can start by stripping the Freemasons of their power. Now that will be a good start.

[Tim Drayton]

Regarding fair access, I mean outnumbering the solutionists 4 to 1 on any debate and the Chair who should not be biased laughing at a comment a solutionist makes ridiculing him or making people walk off a debate through unfair treatment.

Regarding the Alcohol problem in USA, are you suggesting that prohibition if applied now would be better?

Regarding Heroin, why not legalise it and control its strength. Criminalising it does not stop people from using it, encourages people to steal to be able to buy it. It is the main driver of criminal activity. In my opinion cigarettes, alcohol, cannabis and heroine are no different. Banning them simply drives them underground. It takes balls to actually do what is necessary and good for all the population.

Fred, I have often had similar thoughts to you about the trade in narcotics. But I wonder if other considerations mitigate against their legalisation. Just think, it is precisely because trade in these substances is illegal that prices remain artificially high and this business is controlled by criminal gangs. In other words, small groups of people have monoply control over a very profitable business. I wonder just how high the tentacles of corruption in connection with this business stretch? It could be that they go far higher than we think. If this is so, there may be very powerful and apparently legitimate people who actually owe their wealth and prominence to the drugs trade. If these suspicions are correct, then drugs will never be made legal. These people would not be able to make the same easy money in a genuinely competitive market.

In the 50's there were powerful interests that objected to setting up the NHS in UK. It took a politician with balls to outwit them and set it up. Just like in USA, the question is does Obama has what it takes. It will take a bloody good politician to drive it through. They can start by stripping the Freemasons of their power. Now that will be a good start.

Yes, but just how powerful are the interests here? For example, it is alleged that the money earned from the heroin trade in Turkey may be equal to as much as one-quarter of the country's official GDP (in which this trade does not figure, of course). These are massive profits monopolised by a few gangs.

[Tim Drayton]

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/5/20091029/tuk ... dbed5.html

[Paphitis]

Sabotage,terrorism, more hatred and tears?

This is exactly what this so called"solution" will achieve!

Any solution which affords rights based on ethnicity will only result in the disadvantaged ethnicity hating the other ethnic community which has more rights. This is what will happen, and eventually it will lead to sabotage, terrorism and tears.

How can this be deemed as a solution?

[Cypriot Nick]

Sabotage,terrorism, more hatred and tears?

This is exactly what this so called"solution" will achieve!

Any solution which affords rights based on ethnicity will only result in the disadvantaged ethnicity hating the other ethnic community which has more rights. This is what will happen, and eventually it will lead to sabotage, terrorism and tears.

How can this be deemed as a solution?

It can't and Cyprus's history has proven this.

[Viewpoint]

Sabotage,terrorism, more hatred and tears?

This is exactly what this so called"solution" will achieve!

Any solution which affords rights based on ethnicity will only result in the disadvantaged ethnicity hating the other ethnic community which has more rights. This is what will happen, and eventually it will lead to sabotage, terrorism and tears.

How can this be deemed as a solution?

What if the solution you support causes these problems? How will you feel? as long as GCs are Ok then no problem with that be your approach as was in the case in the past?

[Piratis]

Piratis your hate for TCs and Turkey knows no bounds...your only aim is land and the monopoly to rule as you wish...you dont give a shit about our rights how do you expect us to place our future in your hands? The current division is 1000 time more preferred to uniting with your mindset.

I don't hate anybody because of his ethnicity, as you do. Those that I hate are only the racists like you.

You don't have any right to make half of Cyprus Turkish when in fact every part of it belongs by over 80% to GCs. Neither you have any right to discriminate against us and have your votes count more than ours.

It is you who wants to violate our rights. What I want from you is to stop demanding Ottoman style privilages on our expense. We are not living in the middle ages anymore when you could enslave, kill and oppress us as you felt like.