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Land percentage clashes again...!

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Postby YFred » Sun Oct 25, 2009 5:16 pm

Expatkiwi wrote:
Sotos wrote:The land registry records go back to the British rule you moron. Or maybe you want to go to go back to the Ottoman rule? Then maybe we should check history even before that. You will find that you own 0% and everything you have today you stole it!


Still, it is not beyond the realm of possibility that between 1963 and 1964, while the records were under GC control, that they were discretely altered. Now, that is just speculation on my part, but given the prevailing attitudes of that time, such a thing is not improbable.

On a personal note, Sotos: you accuse me of being very close-minded and insensitive to your view. If you can show me some independent sources (and I mean totally apolitical sources at that) which can show me to be wrong to support the Turkish Cypriots and you to be right, please let me know.

It is not that it is not improbable it is certain that they destroyed evidence of TC land documentation. Given that they put TCs through people through mincing machines would they really not destroy land registry documentation?
I think not.
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Re: Land percentage clashes again...!

Postby B25 » Sun Oct 25, 2009 6:20 pm

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yialousa1971 wrote:
Expatkiwi wrote:Greek daily Politis wrote that the Greek Land Registry Administration had announced the total amount of compensation to be paid for Greek property in Turkish Cyprus as 4 billion euros. The report said 81.4 percent of the land on the island belonged to Greeks and 16.8 percent belonged to Turks, while Turkish Cyprus Cyprus maintains that 71.5 percent of the land belongs to Greeks and 26.7 percent belongs to Turks (with the remaining 1.8 percent belongs to other property holders). Is there ever going to be a simple way to rectify this?


Cyprus is Hellenic 100% you little Turk!


I can see there's not much doubt in your mind, except that I'm not a Turk, or little. I sympathise with the Turkish Cypriots, yes. Of that, I'm proud. It's folk like you that help vindicate my stance. Thank you for that.


Hey Arsehole, you support the Turkds because you are married to one FFS!

For all we know it could be, and probably is, the Turk wife writing and not some rejected newzealander who happened to get US naturalisation.

No good trying to talk sense to this moron, a turk is a turk is a turk and we all know when we have a good one :wink:
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Re: Land percentage clashes again...!

Postby B25 » Sun Oct 25, 2009 6:21 pm

Expatkiwi wrote:
yialousa1971 wrote:
Expatkiwi wrote:Greek daily Politis wrote that the Greek Land Registry Administration had announced the total amount of compensation to be paid for Greek property in Turkish Cyprus as 4 billion euros. The report said 81.4 percent of the land on the island belonged to Greeks and 16.8 percent belonged to Turks, while Turkish Cyprus Cyprus maintains that 71.5 percent of the land belongs to Greeks and 26.7 percent belongs to Turks (with the remaining 1.8 percent belongs to other property holders). Is there ever going to be a simple way to rectify this?


Cyprus is Hellenic 100% you little Turk!


I can see there's not much doubt in your mind, except that I'm not a Turk, or little. I sympathise with the Turkish Cypriots, yes. Of that, I'm proud. It's folk like you that help vindicate my stance. Thank you for that.


Hey Arsehole, you support the Turkds because you are married to one FFS!

For all we know it could be, and probably is, the Turk wife writing and not some rejected newzealander who happened to get US naturalisation.

No good trying to talk sense to this moron, a turk is a turk is a turk and we all know when we have a good one :wink:
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Re: Land percentage clashes again...!

Postby Expatkiwi » Sun Oct 25, 2009 6:22 pm

B25 wrote:Hey Arsehole, you support the Turkds because you are married to one FFS!

For all we know it could be, and probably is, the Turk wife writing and not some rejected newzealander who happened to get US naturalisation.

No good trying to talk sense to this moron, a turk is a turk is a turk and we all know when we have a good one :wink:


Now I know what "B25" stands for: Brains - 25 IQ :D
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Postby Gregory » Sun Oct 25, 2009 7:31 pm

YFred wrote:
Expatkiwi wrote:
Sotos wrote:The land registry records go back to the British rule you moron. Or maybe you want to go to go back to the Ottoman rule? Then maybe we should check history even before that. You will find that you own 0% and everything you have today you stole it!


Still, it is not beyond the realm of possibility that between 1963 and 1964, while the records were under GC control, that they were discretely altered. Now, that is just speculation on my part, but given the prevailing attitudes of that time, such a thing is not improbable.

On a personal note, Sotos: you accuse me of being very close-minded and insensitive to your view. If you can show me some independent sources (and I mean totally apolitical sources at that) which can show me to be wrong to support the Turkish Cypriots and you to be right, please let me know.

It is not that it is not improbable it is certain that they destroyed evidence of TC land documentation. Given that they put TCs through people through mincing machines would they really not destroy land registry documentation?
I think not.


TC's through a mincing machine eh?

I'd be interested to hear and see evidence of this genocide you describe and the fact that the 60's produced a majority of TC casualties.
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Postby YFred » Sun Oct 25, 2009 7:50 pm

Gregory wrote:
YFred wrote:
Expatkiwi wrote:
Sotos wrote:The land registry records go back to the British rule you moron. Or maybe you want to go to go back to the Ottoman rule? Then maybe we should check history even before that. You will find that you own 0% and everything you have today you stole it!


Still, it is not beyond the realm of possibility that between 1963 and 1964, while the records were under GC control, that they were discretely altered. Now, that is just speculation on my part, but given the prevailing attitudes of that time, such a thing is not improbable.

On a personal note, Sotos: you accuse me of being very close-minded and insensitive to your view. If you can show me some independent sources (and I mean totally apolitical sources at that) which can show me to be wrong to support the Turkish Cypriots and you to be right, please let me know.

It is not that it is not improbable it is certain that they destroyed evidence of TC land documentation. Given that they put TCs through people through mincing machines would they really not destroy land registry documentation?
I think not.


TC's through a mincing machine eh?

I'd be interested to hear and see evidence of this genocide you describe and the fact that the 60's produced a majority of TC casualties.

Outside the General Hospital in nicosia. One of them was a Lurucadi nurse.
You will not be seeing any evidence though the eoka were very good at not leaving evidence. Not even bones.
If you need proof of this well known and accepted fact by both communities, than continue with your slumber. You'll find your dreams are far better; you will only wake up to a nightmare.
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Re: Land percentage clashes again...!

Postby Get Real! » Sun Oct 25, 2009 8:37 pm

Expatkiwi wrote:...Turkish Cyprus Cyprus maintains that 71.5 percent of the land belongs to Greeks and 26.7 percent belongs to Turks

Looking at the TC claims of pre-74 land ownership…

GC = 82% (majority) = 71.5% ownership

TC = 18% (minority) = 26.7% ownership


One could be forgiven for thinking that the tiny 18% TC minority were an extraordinarily hard working and industrious people who saved every penny investing in real estate and establishing themselves as major land owners!

One would also have to conclude that the TCs would’ve been employing many GCs as farm/land hands with such a high rate of land ownership p/person!

You could also deduct that the TCs must’ve been the richest (p/capita) of the two communities!

Is there an honest Turkish Cypriot out there who can come forward and confirm this (logical to TC figures) scenario? :lol:
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Re: Land percentage clashes again...!

Postby zan » Sun Oct 25, 2009 9:25 pm

Get Real! wrote:
Expatkiwi wrote:...Turkish Cyprus Cyprus maintains that 71.5 percent of the land belongs to Greeks and 26.7 percent belongs to Turks

Looking at the TC claims of pre-74 land ownership…

GC = 82% (majority) = 71.5% ownership

TC = 18% (minority) = 26.7% ownership


One could be forgiven for thinking that the tiny 18% TC minority were an extraordinarily hard working and industrious people who saved every penny investing in real estate and establishing themselves as major land owners!

One would also have to conclude that the TCs would’ve been employing many GCs as farm/land hands with such a high rate of land ownership p/person!

You could also deduct that the TCs must’ve been the richest (p/capita) of the two communities!

Is there an honest Turkish Cypriot out there who can come forward and confirm this (logical to TC figures) scenario? :lol:



I don't know the actual figure but my paternal grandfather had about 12 children from three wives (not all at the same time you understand) He left them all land in his will and my dad being the youngest got about 40 Donums that I have mentioned several times....Thats a lot of land...How many where there like that GR.....Land was not worth much then....If I remember, from the one time my dad showed me the Kocan, it was worth about 30 shillings....Now stop being a malaga and think straight.....You have escaped my attention for a while but you are getting very fidgety again and I might have to give you a good seeing to!!!! :twisted:
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Re: Land percentage clashes again...!

Postby YFred » Sun Oct 25, 2009 10:26 pm

zan wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
Expatkiwi wrote:...Turkish Cyprus Cyprus maintains that 71.5 percent of the land belongs to Greeks and 26.7 percent belongs to Turks

Looking at the TC claims of pre-74 land ownership…

GC = 82% (majority) = 71.5% ownership

TC = 18% (minority) = 26.7% ownership


One could be forgiven for thinking that the tiny 18% TC minority were an extraordinarily hard working and industrious people who saved every penny investing in real estate and establishing themselves as major land owners!

One would also have to conclude that the TCs would’ve been employing many GCs as farm/land hands with such a high rate of land ownership p/person!

You could also deduct that the TCs must’ve been the richest (p/capita) of the two communities!

Is there an honest Turkish Cypriot out there who can come forward and confirm this (logical to TC figures) scenario? :lol:



I don't know the actual figure but my paternal grandfather had about 12 children from three wives (not all at the same time you understand) He left them all land in his will and my dad being the youngest got about 40 Donums that I have mentioned several times....Thats a lot of land...How many where there like that GR.....Land was not worth much then....If I remember, from the one time my dad showed me the Kocan, it was worth about 30 shillings....Now stop being a malaga and think straight.....You have escaped my attention for a while but you are getting very fidgety again and I might have to give you a good seeing to!!!! :twisted:

No Zan, he will enjoy that. :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: Land percentage clashes again...!

Postby zan » Sun Oct 25, 2009 10:30 pm

YFred wrote:
zan wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
Expatkiwi wrote:...Turkish Cyprus Cyprus maintains that 71.5 percent of the land belongs to Greeks and 26.7 percent belongs to Turks

Looking at the TC claims of pre-74 land ownership…

GC = 82% (majority) = 71.5% ownership

TC = 18% (minority) = 26.7% ownership


One could be forgiven for thinking that the tiny 18% TC minority were an extraordinarily hard working and industrious people who saved every penny investing in real estate and establishing themselves as major land owners!

One would also have to conclude that the TCs would’ve been employing many GCs as farm/land hands with such a high rate of land ownership p/person!

You could also deduct that the TCs must’ve been the richest (p/capita) of the two communities!

Is there an honest Turkish Cypriot out there who can come forward and confirm this (logical to TC figures) scenario? :lol:



I don't know the actual figure but my paternal grandfather had about 12 children from three wives (not all at the same time you understand) He left them all land in his will and my dad being the youngest got about 40 Donums that I have mentioned several times....Thats a lot of land...How many where there like that GR.....Land was not worth much then....If I remember, from the one time my dad showed me the Kocan, it was worth about 30 shillings....Now stop being a malaga and think straight.....You have escaped my attention for a while but you are getting very fidgety again and I might have to give you a good seeing to!!!! :twisted:

No Zan, he will enjoy that. :lol: :lol: :lol:


We are both desperate it seems.....He needs a good seeing to and I need the money!!! :lol: :lol: :lol:
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