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[Kikapu]

You have finally found your highly intellectual level in how to communicate.!

Keep it up by not writing another word.!

How is it that they have taken up my suggestion on Office of the President and ignored yours? Can you explain that?
That must be eating you alive from within.

What are you blabbering about now, YFred.!

[zan]

YFred, Take no notice of Kikapu, he believes in "safety in numbers". We are outnumbered by GCs on the forum so his loyalty is with them. If it was the other way round I'd guarantee it would be with the TCs

Oh yes, before I forget, he also likes to think this is a popularity contest so he'll do and say anything to keep his title. There is only one contender to his title and that's DENIZAKSURDU

Hello MR-from-NG,

I'm a One Man Act and follow no one, other than my self. Surely even you with your short attention span for details would understand that. Just because I refuse to morally corrupt myself just so to belong in the morally corrupted club of some morally corrupted TCs here on the forum does not mean I do not respect other TCs and be respected by them in return who are not morally corrupted. Just because I do not like Fascists, liars and partitionist, does not mean I personally have any ill feeling toward those individuals. Just because YFred is a liar and an idiot, he is still God's creature, no matter how unfortunate that may be on the rest of us. Even God screws up once in a while, but that's no reason why I can have a drink with him or any of you God's mistakes despite with your corrupted political ideologies. At the very least I'm exposing you lot to another point of view, other than the ones you have allowed yourselves to be morally corrupted by remaining in the morally corrupted cesspool. You do not need to thank me, but at the same time do not criticise considering where you are doing your criticism from.!

"Üzüm üzümü göre göre siyah olur" !! :wink:

Anyway, we don’t always have to talk politics all the time if we don’t agree on anything. Lets talk about something other than politics, like flying. How is your fly going.?

Would you have signed your name beside that of Tpap on the Akritas plan Kiks?? You know...That guy who later became their president

There is only one morally corrupt person here and thats you. You can convert to being Greek...That I have no objection to but to vilify thousands of TCs for wanting to be who they are rather than your ilk is the doings of a demented man. Go have fun......We know who we are just as much as you hope you do.

[Kikapu]

YFred, Take no notice of Kikapu, he believes in "safety in numbers". We are outnumbered by GCs on the forum so his loyalty is with them. If it was the other way round I'd guarantee it would be with the TCs

Oh yes, before I forget, he also likes to think this is a popularity contest so he'll do and say anything to keep his title. There is only one contender to his title and that's DENIZAKSURDU

Hello MR-from-NG,

I'm a One Man Act and follow no one, other than my self. Surely even you with your short attention span for details would understand that. Just because I refuse to morally corrupt myself just so to belong in the morally corrupted club of some morally corrupted TCs here on the forum does not mean I do not respect other TCs and be respected by them in return who are not morally corrupted. Just because I do not like Fascists, liars and partitionist, does not mean I personally have any ill feeling toward those individuals. Just because YFred is a liar and an idiot, he is still God's creature, no matter how unfortunate that may be on the rest of us. Even God screws up once in a while, but that's no reason why I can have a drink with him or any of you God's mistakes despite with your corrupted political ideologies. At the very least I'm exposing you lot to another point of view, other than the ones you have allowed yourselves to be morally corrupted by remaining in the morally corrupted cesspool. You do not need to thank me, but at the same time do not criticise considering where you are doing your criticism from.!

"Üzüm üzümü göre göre siyah olur" !! :wink:

Anyway, we don’t always have to talk politics all the time if we don’t agree on anything. Lets talk about something other than politics, like flying. How is your fly going.?

Would you have signed your name beside that of Tpap on the Akritas plan Kiks?? You know...That guy who later became their president

There is only one morally corrupt person here and thats you. You can convert to being Greek...That I have no objection to but to vilify thousands of TCs for wanting to be who they are rather than your ilk is the doings of a demented man. Go have fun......We know who we are just as much as you hope you do.

Let me ask you the same question I've asked, YFred.!

Zan, what are you blabbering about.?

[zan]

YFred, Take no notice of Kikapu, he believes in "safety in numbers". We are outnumbered by GCs on the forum so his loyalty is with them. If it was the other way round I'd guarantee it would be with the TCs

Oh yes, before I forget, he also likes to think this is a popularity contest so he'll do and say anything to keep his title. There is only one contender to his title and that's DENIZAKSURDU

Hello MR-from-NG,

I'm a One Man Act and follow no one, other than my self. Surely even you with your short attention span for details would understand that. Just because I refuse to morally corrupt myself just so to belong in the morally corrupted club of some morally corrupted TCs here on the forum does not mean I do not respect other TCs and be respected by them in return who are not morally corrupted. Just because I do not like Fascists, liars and partitionist, does not mean I personally have any ill feeling toward those individuals. Just because YFred is a liar and an idiot, he is still God's creature, no matter how unfortunate that may be on the rest of us. Even God screws up once in a while, but that's no reason why I can have a drink with him or any of you God's mistakes despite with your corrupted political ideologies. At the very least I'm exposing you lot to another point of view, other than the ones you have allowed yourselves to be morally corrupted by remaining in the morally corrupted cesspool. You do not need to thank me, but at the same time do not criticise considering where you are doing your criticism from.!

"Üzüm üzümü göre göre siyah olur" !! :wink:

Anyway, we don’t always have to talk politics all the time if we don’t agree on anything. Lets talk about something other than politics, like flying. How is your fly going.?

Would you have signed your name beside that of Tpap on the Akritas plan Kiks?? You know...That guy who later became their president

There is only one morally corrupt person here and thats you. You can convert to being Greek...That I have no objection to but to vilify thousands of TCs for wanting to be who they are rather than your ilk is the doings of a demented man. Go have fun......We know who we are just as much as you hope you do.

Let me ask you the same question I've asked, YFred.!

Zan, what are you blabbering about.?

How did I guess what you would do.... Didn't like one bit of the post so you ignore all the questions.....Fancy appearing on question time...


Tell us again how you would prefer to sign up to Greek illegalities FFS

[cymart]

My fathers family originally came from what is now called Lviv in Ukraine,although when him and his mother went to England in the late 1930's because they were afraid(and quite rightly as it turned out!)that Germany would invade Poland and being Jews they would be in danger,the city was in Poland.After Germany invaded,the Soviets were next to occupy the place and Stalin decided that the post-war boundary of Poland would be shifted westwards,making it part of the Ukraine under his control!The Polish population were kicked out and replaced by Soviets and nobody in the West has ever raised the question of compensating them,even though many Poles fought with the Allies against Germany in the war...and remember the Poles had done nothing to deserve what happened to them,any more than many Greek Cypriots in 1974.
It's all a question of geopolitical expediency,and as other people have rightly pointed out,justice is not equally distributed among all countries-try asking the Poles about it,or the Sudeten Germans etc etc...
Part of the Cyprus solution has to involve a compromise on properties and that means compensation in more than a few cases.After 35 years the E.U. will not ignore the rights of people who have been born in northern Cyprus since their parents came here after 1974-once again this involves compromise.A considerable number of Greek and Turkish Cypriots will not choose to return to their previous homes anyway and will opt for compensation so they can stay where they are now-once again a compromise is possible.
What I am trying to say is the case of Cyprus is not unique in world history and similar situations-or worse have happened in many other places...otherwise the Poles might as well start suing Russia,the American Natives the U.S. government,Greeks from Istanbul suing Ankara about past grievances etc etc while the situation on the ground consolidates and the greedy corrupt lawyers continue to deceive and exploit the gullible and the naive!
Morally, sentimentally we all have a case,but the world is grounded on harder principles and we have to live with reality!
Of course nobody is going to accept peanuts and there will be international contributions towards compensation,even though economic conditions in the past would probably have allowed more to be paid out than under current conditions internationally...but that's another disadvantage of the passge of time...

[YFred]

YFred, Take no notice of Kikapu, he believes in "safety in numbers". We are outnumbered by GCs on the forum so his loyalty is with them. If it was the other way round I'd guarantee it would be with the TCs

Oh yes, before I forget, he also likes to think this is a popularity contest so he'll do and say anything to keep his title. There is only one contender to his title and that's DENIZAKSURDU

Hello MR-from-NG,

I'm a One Man Act and follow no one, other than my self. Surely even you with your short attention span for details would understand that. Just because I refuse to morally corrupt myself just so to belong in the morally corrupted club of some morally corrupted TCs here on the forum does not mean I do not respect other TCs and be respected by them in return who are not morally corrupted. Just because I do not like Fascists, liars and partitionist, does not mean I personally have any ill feeling toward those individuals. Just because YFred is a liar and an idiot, he is still God's creature, no matter how unfortunate that may be on the rest of us. Even God screws up once in a while, but that's no reason why I can have a drink with him or any of you God's mistakes despite with your corrupted political ideologies. At the very least I'm exposing you lot to another point of view, other than the ones you have allowed yourselves to be morally corrupted by remaining in the morally corrupted cesspool. You do not need to thank me, but at the same time do not criticise considering where you are doing your criticism from.!

"Üzüm üzümü göre göre siyah olur" !! :wink:

Anyway, we don’t always have to talk politics all the time if we don’t agree on anything. Lets talk about something other than politics, like flying. How is your fly going.?

Would you have signed your name beside that of Tpap on the Akritas plan Kiks?? You know...That guy who later became their president

There is only one morally corrupt person here and thats you. You can convert to being Greek...That I have no objection to but to vilify thousands of TCs for wanting to be who they are rather than your ilk is the doings of a demented man. Go have fun......We know who we are just as much as you hope you do.

Let me ask you the same question I've asked, YFred.!

Zan, what are you blabbering about.?

How did I guess what you would do.... Didn't like one bit of the post so you ignore all the questions.....Fancy appearing on question time...


Tell us again how you would prefer to sign up to Greek illegalities FFS

Zan, you have been here longer than me. You should know by now that Kickapoo is an attantion seeking OCD sufferer. The worst you can do to him is ignore him. The unfortunate medical fact is it will lead to madness, and he is far on that route too.

In some ways I fell very sorry for him, but hey what can you do, an alcoholic can only find remedy if they accept their problem, otherwise finnito as my Italian friend used to say.

[Get Real!]

....otherwise finnito as my Italian friend used to say.

Was that a boyfriend after climaxing?

[YFred]

....otherwise finnito as my Italian friend used to say.

Was that a boyfriend after climaxing?

What's the matter GR, aint she lettin you in the bedroom these days? Or has she got somebody else or perhaps she has a headache. I can recommend paracetamol in powder form. Would you know what to do with it?
Or are you one of them cheekibisexulitans. Your greekness is shining through no matter how much you try to hide it. You old toothless guvella shilla.

Esssssshhhhhhhhek pezevenk.

[zan]

YFred, Take no notice of Kikapu, he believes in "safety in numbers". We are outnumbered by GCs on the forum so his loyalty is with them. If it was the other way round I'd guarantee it would be with the TCs

Oh yes, before I forget, he also likes to think this is a popularity contest so he'll do and say anything to keep his title. There is only one contender to his title and that's DENIZAKSURDU

Hello MR-from-NG,

I'm a One Man Act and follow no one, other than my self. Surely even you with your short attention span for details would understand that. Just because I refuse to morally corrupt myself just so to belong in the morally corrupted club of some morally corrupted TCs here on the forum does not mean I do not respect other TCs and be respected by them in return who are not morally corrupted. Just because I do not like Fascists, liars and partitionist, does not mean I personally have any ill feeling toward those individuals. Just because YFred is a liar and an idiot, he is still God's creature, no matter how unfortunate that may be on the rest of us. Even God screws up once in a while, but that's no reason why I can have a drink with him or any of you God's mistakes despite with your corrupted political ideologies. At the very least I'm exposing you lot to another point of view, other than the ones you have allowed yourselves to be morally corrupted by remaining in the morally corrupted cesspool. You do not need to thank me, but at the same time do not criticise considering where you are doing your criticism from.!

"Üzüm üzümü göre göre siyah olur" !! :wink:

Anyway, we don’t always have to talk politics all the time if we don’t agree on anything. Lets talk about something other than politics, like flying. How is your fly going.?

Would you have signed your name beside that of Tpap on the Akritas plan Kiks?? You know...That guy who later became their president

There is only one morally corrupt person here and thats you. You can convert to being Greek...That I have no objection to but to vilify thousands of TCs for wanting to be who they are rather than your ilk is the doings of a demented man. Go have fun......We know who we are just as much as you hope you do.

Let me ask you the same question I've asked, YFred.!

Zan, what are you blabbering about.?

How did I guess what you would do.... Didn't like one bit of the post so you ignore all the questions.....Fancy appearing on question time...


Tell us again how you would prefer to sign up to Greek illegalities FFS

Zan, you have been here longer than me. You should know by now that Kickapoo is an attantion seeking OCD sufferer. The worst you can do to him is ignore him. The unfortunate medical fact is it will lead to madness, and he is far on that route too.

In some ways I fell very sorry for him, but hey what can you do, an alcoholic can only find remedy if they accept their problem, otherwise finnito as my Italian friend used to say.

He has got to get it sometime.......His little toy town world has to be getting a bit tight even for him.....

[Bananiot]

Cymart wrote

My fathers family originally came from what is now called Lviv in Ukraine,although when him and his mother went to England in the late 1930's because they were afraid (and quite rightly as it turned out!) that Germany would invade Poland and being Jews they would be in danger,the city was in Poland. After Germany invaded, the Soviets were next to occupy the place and Stalin decided that the post-war boundary of Poland would be shifted westwards,making it part of the Ukraine under his control! The Polish population were kicked out and replaced by Soviets and nobody in the West has ever raised the question of compensating them, even though many Poles fought with the Allies against Germany in the war...and remember the Poles had done nothing to deserve what happened to them,any more than many Greek Cypriots in 1974.
It's all a question of geopolitical expediency, and as other people have rightly pointed out, justice is not equally distributed among all countries-try asking the Poles about it, or the Sudeten Germans etc etc...
Part of the Cyprus solution has to involve a compromise on properties and that means compensation in more than a few cases. After 35 years the E.U. will not ignore the rights of people who have been born in northern Cyprus since their parents came here after 1974-once again this involves compromise. A considerable number of Greek and Turkish Cypriots will not choose to return to their previous homes anyway and will opt for compensation so they can stay where they are now-once again a compromise is possible.
What I am trying to say is the case of Cyprus is not unique in world history and similar situations-or worse have happened in many other places...otherwise the Poles might as well start suing Russia, the American Natives the U.S. government, Greeks from Istanbul suing Ankara about past grievances etc etc while the situation on the ground consolidates and the greedy corrupt lawyers continue to deceive and exploit the gullible and the naive!
Morally, sentimentally we all have a case, but the world is grounded on harder principles and we have to live with reality!
Of course nobody is going to accept peanuts and there will be international contributions towards compensation, even though economic conditions in the past would probably have allowed more to be paid out than under current conditions internationally...but that's another disadvantage of the passage of time...

You are talking about realities Cymart but you have not uttered the dreaded word. Perhaps you will be spared the wroth of the crazy woman.

I learned a lot about Poland by reading a book called "A question of honour: The Cosciuszko Squadron: Forgotten heroes of world war II" where the town of Lvil is mentioned (Lvol in Polish and Leopolis in Greek)