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Postby Tim Drayton » Wed Nov 04, 2009 11:20 am

YFred wrote:
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YFred wrote:Was it not you who claims that TCs were no major land owners? Some TCs have land in multiple villages and plenty of them too. Get your facts right dear boy.

The majority of Turkish Cypriots lived is SQUALOR up to July 1974, and the Department of Land & Surveys correctly credits them with just 12.3%!

Land Ownership by Ethnic Group:

60.9% - Greek/Armenian/Maronite Cypriots
12.3% - Turkish Cypriots
0.5% - Others
26.3% - State/Church Land


Source: Department of Lands and Surveys (refer to Annex 14 in Volume II of the "Memorandum by the Minister of Foreign Affairs of the Republic of Cyprus" submitted to the Foreign Affairs Committee of the House of Commons, 27 February 1987.

http://www.greece.org/cyprus/Maps.htm

I don’t want to hear any more of your dad’s stories because we’re simply NOT interested!

Well that told me. If the land registry says it it is, then it must be. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Who did you think we’re going to believe… those who collaborated with the invading Turks to plunder or the recognized body? Think again!

GR that’s below the belt accusing us of collaborating. Are you shaving our heads like they did in France during WW2?
Mixing with Sarkozybullo is turning you to a nun (giving you bad habits).

Did Turkish Cypriots NOT participate in the ethnic cleansing of Greek Cypriots during the Turkish invasion?

Not where my clan resides old chap.

In any case you will find that where ever it occurred it was probably a reaction to the ethnic cleansing by the GCs in the 60s old chap.

Just thing what could have happened in Cyprus, if Makarios and the rest of the cronies did not create the Akritas plan in 1960, 3 months after the declaration of independence.

You certainly do not come out smelling of roses, do you old chap.


A few days ago CyBC's bicommunal Biz/Emeis programme interviewed an elderly Greek Cypriot who used to live in Louroujina and was encouraged/forced to leave the village in 1958 among with the other small number of Greek Cypriots who lived there. It was not entirely a happy story, even if this woman said that previously they had enjoyed very good relations with their Turkish Cypriot co-villagers.

I know, there were 10 families that police advised to leave for a few days and of course that lasted for 60 years. My Brother found one of them in Larnaca after the crossings opened. His last name was Lurucadi. He took that name after they moved out of the village.


The surname of the woman they interviewed was Louroujadi, and I think she lives in Larnaka.

In the interview she said that they heeded warnings and left the village for a few days but returned to find their houses ransacked, so they decided to leave for good.
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Postby YFred » Wed Nov 04, 2009 11:33 am

Tim Drayton wrote:
YFred wrote:
Tim Drayton wrote:
YFred wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
YFred wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
YFred wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
YFred wrote:Was it not you who claims that TCs were no major land owners? Some TCs have land in multiple villages and plenty of them too. Get your facts right dear boy.

The majority of Turkish Cypriots lived is SQUALOR up to July 1974, and the Department of Land & Surveys correctly credits them with just 12.3%!

Land Ownership by Ethnic Group:

60.9% - Greek/Armenian/Maronite Cypriots
12.3% - Turkish Cypriots
0.5% - Others
26.3% - State/Church Land


Source: Department of Lands and Surveys (refer to Annex 14 in Volume II of the "Memorandum by the Minister of Foreign Affairs of the Republic of Cyprus" submitted to the Foreign Affairs Committee of the House of Commons, 27 February 1987.

http://www.greece.org/cyprus/Maps.htm

I don’t want to hear any more of your dad’s stories because we’re simply NOT interested!

Well that told me. If the land registry says it it is, then it must be. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Who did you think we’re going to believe… those who collaborated with the invading Turks to plunder or the recognized body? Think again!

GR that’s below the belt accusing us of collaborating. Are you shaving our heads like they did in France during WW2?
Mixing with Sarkozybullo is turning you to a nun (giving you bad habits).

Did Turkish Cypriots NOT participate in the ethnic cleansing of Greek Cypriots during the Turkish invasion?

Not where my clan resides old chap.

In any case you will find that where ever it occurred it was probably a reaction to the ethnic cleansing by the GCs in the 60s old chap.

Just thing what could have happened in Cyprus, if Makarios and the rest of the cronies did not create the Akritas plan in 1960, 3 months after the declaration of independence.

You certainly do not come out smelling of roses, do you old chap.


A few days ago CyBC's bicommunal Biz/Emeis programme interviewed an elderly Greek Cypriot who used to live in Louroujina and was encouraged/forced to leave the village in 1958 among with the other small number of Greek Cypriots who lived there. It was not entirely a happy story, even if this woman said that previously they had enjoyed very good relations with their Turkish Cypriot co-villagers.

I know, there were 10 families that police advised to leave for a few days and of course that lasted for 60 years. My Brother found one of them in Larnaca after the crossings opened. His last name was Lurucadi. He took that name after they moved out of the village.


The surname of the woman they interviewed was Louroujadi, and I think she lives in Larnaka.

In the interview she said that they heeded warnings and left the village for a few days but returned to find their houses ransacked, so they decided to leave for good.

My Brother may have met her husband. What she said is true. Why and who did it I am not sure as I was born that year, and people did not talk much about that. I suspect it was both opportunism and politically motivated to make sure they don't come back.
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Postby james_mav » Wed Nov 04, 2009 4:06 pm

YFred wrote:My Brother may have met her husband. What she said is true. Why and who did it I am not sure as I was born that year, and people did not talk much about that. I suspect it was both opportunism and politically motivated to make sure they don't come back.

Tme and time again we hear about how you were "too young" or "had just emigrated" and so don't know the details of some tragedy that befell some poor GC, yet you were right in the thick of things when Bad Things (TM) were supposedly happening to you...how curious.
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Postby Tim Drayton » Wed Nov 04, 2009 6:02 pm

Well, I appreciate your honesty and sincerity, YFred.
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Postby YFred » Wed Nov 04, 2009 6:22 pm

james_mav wrote:
YFred wrote:My Brother may have met her husband. What she said is true. Why and who did it I am not sure as I was born that year, and people did not talk much about that. I suspect it was both opportunism and politically motivated to make sure they don't come back.

Tme and time again we hear about how you were "too young" or "had just emigrated" and so don't know the details of some tragedy that befell some poor GC, yet you were right in the thick of things when Bad Things (TM) were supposedly happening to you...how curious.

Careful now, cause curiosity killed the cat.
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Postby YFred » Wed Nov 04, 2009 6:24 pm

Tim Drayton wrote:Well, I appreciate your honesty and sincerity, YFred.

Thanks Tim.
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Postby wallace » Wed Nov 04, 2009 6:27 pm

james_mav wrote:
YFred wrote:My Brother may have met her husband. What she said is true. Why and who did it I am not sure as I was born that year, and people did not talk much about that. I suspect it was both opportunism and politically motivated to make sure they don't come back.

Tme and time again we hear about how you were "too young" or "had just emigrated" and so don't know the details of some tragedy that befell some poor GC, yet you were right in the thick of things when Bad Things (TM) were supposedly happening to you...how curious.


That's right! And just a few posts ago he said this when GR confronted him with ethnical cleansing

Y-Fuck said:

"Not where my clan resides old chap.

In any case you will find that where ever it occurred it was probably a reaction to the ethnic cleansing by the GCs in the 60s old chap.

Just thing what could have happened in Cyprus, if Makarios and the rest of the cronies did not create the Akritas plan in 1960, 3 months after the declaration of independence.

You certainly do not come out smelling of roses, do you old chap."

So old chap/old boy Y-Fuck is full of shit and does not know what he is talking about. :D :D :D
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Postby YFred » Wed Nov 04, 2009 6:31 pm

wallace wrote:
james_mav wrote:
YFred wrote:My Brother may have met her husband. What she said is true. Why and who did it I am not sure as I was born that year, and people did not talk much about that. I suspect it was both opportunism and politically motivated to make sure they don't come back.

Tme and time again we hear about how you were "too young" or "had just emigrated" and so don't know the details of some tragedy that befell some poor GC, yet you were right in the thick of things when Bad Things (TM) were supposedly happening to you...how curious.


That's right! And just a few posts ago he said this when GR confronted him with ethnical cleansing

Y-Fuck said:

"Not where my clan resides old chap.

In any case you will find that where ever it occurred it was probably a reaction to the ethnic cleansing by the GCs in the 60s old chap.

Just thing what could have happened in Cyprus, if Makarios and the rest of the cronies did not create the Akritas plan in 1960, 3 months after the declaration of independence.

You certainly do not come out smelling of roses, do you old chap."

So old chap/old boy Y-Fuck is full of shit and does not know what he is talking about. :D :D :D

Wallace baby, read the question one more time. He asked for 1974. This happened before 1960.
You can't have your cake and eat it. Only we are allowed to do that.
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Postby wallace » Wed Nov 04, 2009 6:37 pm

YFred wrote:
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james_mav wrote:
YFred wrote:My Brother may have met her husband. What she said is true. Why and who did it I am not sure as I was born that year, and people did not talk much about that. I suspect it was both opportunism and politically motivated to make sure they don't come back.

Tme and time again we hear about how you were "too young" or "had just emigrated" and so don't know the details of some tragedy that befell some poor GC, yet you were right in the thick of things when Bad Things (TM) were supposedly happening to you...how curious.


That's right! And just a few posts ago he said this when GR confronted him with ethnical cleansing

Y-Fuck said:

"Not where my clan resides old chap.

In any case you will find that where ever it occurred it was probably a reaction to the ethnic cleansing by the GCs in the 60s old chap.

Just thing what could have happened in Cyprus, if Makarios and the rest of the cronies did not create the Akritas plan in 1960, 3 months after the declaration of independence.

You certainly do not come out smelling of roses, do you old chap."

So old chap/old boy Y-Fuck is full of shit and does not know what he is talking about. :D :D :D

Wallace baby, read the question one more time. He asked for 1974. This happened before 1960.
You can't have your cake and eat it. Only we are allowed to do that.
:wink:


So now your admitting that you were allready ethnical cleansing GC's before the invasion. Thank you. You are the the first TC I see that admits that. Very brave of you. :D :D
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Postby YFred » Wed Nov 04, 2009 7:02 pm

wallace wrote:
YFred wrote:
wallace wrote:
james_mav wrote:
YFred wrote:My Brother may have met her husband. What she said is true. Why and who did it I am not sure as I was born that year, and people did not talk much about that. I suspect it was both opportunism and politically motivated to make sure they don't come back.

Tme and time again we hear about how you were "too young" or "had just emigrated" and so don't know the details of some tragedy that befell some poor GC, yet you were right in the thick of things when Bad Things (TM) were supposedly happening to you...how curious.


That's right! And just a few posts ago he said this when GR confronted him with ethnical cleansing

Y-Fuck said:

"Not where my clan resides old chap.

In any case you will find that where ever it occurred it was probably a reaction to the ethnic cleansing by the GCs in the 60s old chap.

Just thing what could have happened in Cyprus, if Makarios and the rest of the cronies did not create the Akritas plan in 1960, 3 months after the declaration of independence.

You certainly do not come out smelling of roses, do you old chap."

So old chap/old boy Y-Fuck is full of shit and does not know what he is talking about. :D :D :D

Wallace baby, read the question one more time. He asked for 1974. This happened before 1960.
You can't have your cake and eat it. Only we are allowed to do that.
:wink:


So now your admitting that you were allready ethnical cleansing GC's before the invasion. Thank you. You are the the first TC I see that admits that. Very brave of you. :D :D

1958 was before the RoC was set up. It was in the middle of eoka activity and killing of TCs and GCs. People feared for their lives and moved on to more secure environment. Did eoka and their activities in the late 50s and early 60s have nothing to do with that. Have you just heard of the existence of such activities from both sides. Where the hell have you been old chap, Mars or Uranus. All of that was forgiven with the setting up of the RoC. The Criminals are those who set out to destory the RoC including no less the President and his cronies. What happened in 63 was well planned and executed, just could not achieve the result that the GC government was hoping for, and thank god for that.
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