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[Tony-4497]

Stalin decided that the post-war boundary of Poland would be shifted westwards,making it part of the Ukraine under his control!The Polish population were kicked out and replaced by Soviets

So, if I understand correctly, you consider that because Stalin nearly 100 years ago did the above, it is ok for Turkey to steal all GC properties (incl mine).

You appear not have heard of the ECHR and other courts, the decisions of which Turkey has willingly AGREED to obey. If Turkey wants to be a state of barbarians that goes around forcing people out of their homes and then colonising their lands, they should say it. On the contrary, Turkey claims to be European and wants be in the EU. You CANNOT have it both ways - and WE (Cyprus & Greece, at least) will make sure you WILL NOT.

For Turkey to jon the EU and perhaps more importantly to become the regional superpower it wants to be, it needs zero problems with its neighbours (its stated position), including a solution in Cyprus.

There seems to be a contradiction with the part of your statement indicated in red. Are you in fact suggesting that the RoC had 'ZERO' problems with its neighbor/s(Turkey/Northern Cyprus) on its accession to the EU?

There is no contradiction. The RoC had zero problems to the extent that this was under the RoC's control. The EU could not have penalised Cyprus just because a greedy neighbour illegally and through violence continued to occupy part of its territory.

(And by the way, repeating time and again that the occupied part of Cyprus is some "entity" with a name and can be seen as a "neighbour" to the RoC or anyone else won't make it real..)

In any case, my statement was one of fact, not interpretation or up for debate. It is a FACT that Turkey will not enter the EU unless a solution is found which is acceptable to GCs.

[YFred]

Perhaps Christofias can ask the people to register their interests if they don't want to return, but are willing to accept compensation, this will allow a bit of willing negotiation form individuals and hence bother leaders have land mass to play with.

I personally support full right of return but can appreciate not everyone would like to return.

Did TPapa do that before he took the TC properties for Larnaka airport?
Wouldn't that be nice, while you are at it can you get me two tickets to the neighbouring universe, I think we will have better luck solving the Cyprus problem there.

Here we go again with Larnaca airport.. Quoting from an earlier post:

It is YOU who is confused. All over the world, governments LEGALLY make compulsory purchases of private property to use for PUBLIC projects, such as airports and roads - these stand when challenged in any international or European court.

Do you have any evidence suggesting that GC-owned land in the RoC has received preferential treatment in this respect? (i.e. that the RoC has used MORE TC-owned property than GC one, on a proportional basis, for public projects?). If not, then you do not have an argument.

GC leadership has, at the negotiations, accepted that such purchases, even by your Mickey-Mouse state, in the north will be accepted and owners will be paid compensation (i.e. roads, hospitals, airport, etc). I specifically excluded such properties in the thread post.

Don't get me wrong, I am not saying there is anything wrong with it, just don't start complaining when we declare the compulsary purchases of our own.

[Tony-4497]

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[Tony-4497]

Don't get me wrong, I am not saying there is anything wrong with it, just don't start complaining when we declare the compulsary purchases of our own.

You are not a state so have no right to declare anything of the sort. That said, our generous negotiator has accepted that land in the north used for public projects (roads, hospitals, airport etc) will simply be compensated for.

[YFred]

Don't get me wrong, I am not saying there is anything wrong with it, just don't start complaining when we declare the compulsary purchases of our own.

You are not a state so have no right to declare anything of the sort. That said, our generous negotiator has accepted that land in the north used for public projects (roads, hospitals, airport etc) will simply be compensated for.

Phew, I am glad to hear that, I though it was going to be you are not allowed for a moment, cause I have this strange looking object here with a strange shape and a trigger on it that says I can.

[Tony-4497]

Phew.. I am glad you didn't say it was a gun, coz I would probably tell you to shove it up your you-know-what..

We, in the EU, do not like people who use their guns to steal other people's land and colonise it with Anatolian settlers, you see..

[Gregory]

Don't get me wrong, I am not saying there is anything wrong with it, just don't start complaining when we declare the compulsary purchases of our own.

You are not a state so have no right to declare anything of the sort. That said, our generous negotiator has accepted that land in the north used for public projects (roads, hospitals, airport etc) will simply be compensated for.

Phew, I am glad to hear that, I though it was going to be you are not allowed for a moment, cause I have this strange looking object here with a strange shape and a trigger on it that says I can.

You keep behaving like a terrorist and yet complain when you get treated as one. We need to thank you however as you're on of the few TC's on this forum that has had the honesty (or stupidity) to admit that they're just a small group of people who are dwindling in numbers but that demand a grotesque amount of special treatment and favour from the less armed yet more affluent majority of the island.

Yfred my friend, for once I'm in agreement with you. Whatever stupid thing you ask for at this moment in time, there's a gun that says you can have it.

GC's will need to understand this and react accordingly.

[YFred]

Don't get me wrong, I am not saying there is anything wrong with it, just don't start complaining when we declare the compulsary purchases of our own.

You are not a state so have no right to declare anything of the sort. That said, our generous negotiator has accepted that land in the north used for public projects (roads, hospitals, airport etc) will simply be compensated for.

Phew, I am glad to hear that, I though it was going to be you are not allowed for a moment, cause I have this strange looking object here with a strange shape and a trigger on it that says I can.

You keep behaving like a terrorist and yet complain when you get treated as one. We need to thank you however as you're on of the few TC's on this forum that has had the honesty (or stupidity) to admit that they're just a small group of people who are dwindling in numbers but that demand a grotesque amount of special treatment and favour from the less armed yet more affluent majority of the island.

Yfred my friend, for once I'm in agreement with you. Whatever stupid thing you ask for at this moment in time, there's a gun that says you can have it.

GC's will need to understand this and react accordingly.

Interesting interpretation, says a lot more about your state of mind than mine. Me a terrorist, and all the other stuff you said, get some help, I know a very good psychiatrist at half price.

[Gregory]

Don't get me wrong, I am not saying there is anything wrong with it, just don't start complaining when we declare the compulsary purchases of our own.

You are not a state so have no right to declare anything of the sort. That said, our generous negotiator has accepted that land in the north used for public projects (roads, hospitals, airport etc) will simply be compensated for.

Phew, I am glad to hear that, I though it was going to be you are not allowed for a moment, cause I have this strange looking object here with a strange shape and a trigger on it that says I can.

You keep behaving like a terrorist and yet complain when you get treated as one. We need to thank you however as you're on of the few TC's on this forum that has had the honesty (or stupidity) to admit that they're just a small group of people who are dwindling in numbers but that demand a grotesque amount of special treatment and favour from the less armed yet more affluent majority of the island.

Yfred my friend, for once I'm in agreement with you. Whatever stupid thing you ask for at this moment in time, there's a gun that says you can have it.

GC's will need to understand this and react accordingly.

Interesting interpretation, says a lot more about your state of mind than mine. Me a terrorist, and all the other stuff you said, get some help, I know a very good psychiatrist at half price.

It was your quote that drove me to that,

I though it was going to be you are not allowed for a moment, cause I have this strange looking object here with a strange shape and a trigger on it that says

.

What do you make of this mentality?

[denizaksulu]

Stalin decided that the post-war boundary of Poland would be shifted westwards,making it part of the Ukraine under his control!The Polish population were kicked out and replaced by Soviets

So, if I understand correctly, you consider that because Stalin nearly 100 years ago did the above, it is ok for Turkey to steal all GC properties (incl mine).

You appear not have heard of the ECHR and other courts, the decisions of which Turkey has willingly AGREED to obey. If Turkey wants to be a state of barbarians that goes around forcing people out of their homes and then colonising their lands, they should say it. On the contrary, Turkey claims to be European and wants be in the EU. You CANNOT have it both ways - and WE (Cyprus & Greece, at least) will make sure you WILL NOT.

For Turkey to jon the EU and perhaps more importantly to become the regional superpower it wants to be, it needs zero problems with its neighbours (its stated position), including a solution in Cyprus.

There seems to be a contradiction with the part of your statement indicated in red. Are you in fact suggesting that the RoC had 'ZERO' problems with its neighbor/s(Turkey/Northern Cyprus) on its accession to the EU?

There is no contradiction. The RoC had zero problems to the extent that this was under the RoC's control. The EU could not have penalised Cyprus just because a greedy neighbour illegally and through violence continued to occupy part of its territory.

(And by the way, repeating time and again that the occupied part of Cyprus is some "entity" with a name and can be seen as a "neighbour" to the RoC or anyone else won't make it real..)

In any case, my statement was one of fact, not interpretation or up for debate. It is a FACT that Turkey will not enter the EU unless a solution is found which is acceptable to GCs.

The FACT was, that the RoC entered EU with an unslved problem.