Cyprus-Forum.com

[denizaksulu]

Minority minority minority blah blah

BBF is supposed to do away with that mantra. Obviously with that issue out of the way there is no room for special status for anyone.

Nothing special about it Nikitas......We want what is ours on our own island....Not for you to make it sound as if you are giving us something as a minority....

Fair answer Zan. You have what is yours and the Greek Cypriots will have what is theirs. Canr be feirer that that. When does the transfer of properties begin.

You speaking for the GCs??? Even Makarios had to compromise on that fair swap because of the PRESSURES he had to face from his own......Now a fair swap is being decided...It seems you want to forgo what is yours as long as you can live in your village......You don't want that little part of representation because as far as I am concerned they have not offered it???

Come on Den...Don't just throw in a comment and go.....You have always confused me as to what you want....Are you going to at least ask for your constitutional rights under the Zurich agreement or just your home???

It is you whois talking in riddles in answering Nikitas. I told you I am no politician. You have to be more specific .

As for my rights, I think I have them. More rights than I have when I visit the North. Come a settlement, I would be lost for choices where I would like to settle. I am sure you would too.

Now its good night from me.

Nothing about being a politician...That is always your excuse. There is nothing the least bit fuzzy about what I wrote....My land, my home my dignity.....That is what I had in Cyprus at the age of three and that is what I want......How can I be more specific.....You have read what I have written for a long time now and you want more specifics

'Anlayana sivri sinek saz, anlamayana davul zurna az'.

You know my vies on your past posts. I am referring to your reply to Nikitas, where you said, 'We want what is ours on our own island' and I replied, the same also applies to our Greek Cypriot compatriots.

[humanist]

Perhaps Christofias can ask the people to register their interests if they don't want to return, but are willing to accept compensation, this will allow a bit of willing negotiation form individuals and hence bother leaders have land mass to play with.

I personally support full right of return but can appreciate not everyone would like to return.

[denizaksulu]

Perhaps Christofias can ask the people to register their interests if they don't want to return, but are willing to accept compensation, this will allow a bit of willing negotiation form individuals and hence bother leaders have land mass to play with.

I personally support full right of return but can appreciate not everyone would like to return.

That is quite understandable Humanist.

But for a moment I thought our Zan was being overtly gnerous andready to give the GCs their property back.

How are you btw?

[humanist]

I am doing well thnx starting a new job tomorrow so am at that stage

wishful thinking about your thoughts re:- post above

[Tim Drayton]

Stalin decided that the post-war boundary of Poland would be shifted westwards,making it part of the Ukraine under his control!The Polish population were kicked out and replaced by Soviets

So, if I understand correctly, you consider that because Stalin nearly 100 years ago did the above, it is ok for Turkey to steal all GC properties (incl mine).

You appear not have heard of the ECHR and other courts, the decisions of which Turkey has willingly AGREED to obey. If Turkey wants to be a state of barbarians that goes around forcing people out of their homes and then colonising their lands, they should say it. On the contrary, Turkey claims to be European and wants be in the EU. You CANNOT have it both ways - and WE (Cyprus & Greece, at least) will make sure you WILL NOT.

For Turkey to jon the EU and perhaps more importantly to become the regional superpower it wants to be, it needs zero problems with its neighbours (its stated position), including a solution in Cyprus.

The significant point is that the United Nations came into existence on 24 October 1945. This, in a sense, was year zero for the institution that we know as 'international law'. Rather than investigate every irredentist claim in the world, it was necessary to start with a white sheet and accept all existing borders as a given. The Yalta conference, at which Stalin was rewarded with European territory for joining the allies in World War II, had ended about 8 months earlier (11 February 1945). The new territorial arrangements in Eastern and Central Europe thus became a fait accompli.

The point, I think, is that while international law currently underpins the territorial integrity of the RoC and the property rights of all of its citizens, this law is not written in stone. It continues to exist for as long as the great powers of the day find this expedient. One should always be aware of the danger that large shifts in the global balance of power could have far reaching consequences.

[denizaksulu]

I am doing well thnx starting a new job tomorrow so am at that stage

wishful thinking about your thoughts re:- post above

Good luck in your new job.


I dont believe in miracles either

[denizaksulu]

Stalin decided that the post-war boundary of Poland would be shifted westwards,making it part of the Ukraine under his control!The Polish population were kicked out and replaced by Soviets

So, if I understand correctly, you consider that because Stalin nearly 100 years ago did the above, it is ok for Turkey to steal all GC properties (incl mine).

You appear not have heard of the ECHR and other courts, the decisions of which Turkey has willingly AGREED to obey. If Turkey wants to be a state of barbarians that goes around forcing people out of their homes and then colonising their lands, they should say it. On the contrary, Turkey claims to be European and wants be in the EU. You CANNOT have it both ways - and WE (Cyprus & Greece, at least) will make sure you WILL NOT.

For Turkey to jon the EU and perhaps more importantly to become the regional superpower it wants to be, it needs zero problems with its neighbours (its stated position), including a solution in Cyprus.

There seems to be a contradiction with the part of your statement indicated in red. Are you in fact suggesting that the RoC had 'ZERO' problems with its neighbor/s(Turkey/Northern Cyprus) on its accession to the EU?

[halil]

Immovable Property Commission is paying 12 milyon sterling to Greek Cypriot property holder .

property was 9.5 donum and (Ex-severist flour factory in Ortakeuy)

source:Afrika

http://www.afrikagazetesi.net/modules.p ... e&sid=1002

[YFred]

Perhaps Christofias can ask the people to register their interests if they don't want to return, but are willing to accept compensation, this will allow a bit of willing negotiation form individuals and hence bother leaders have land mass to play with.

I personally support full right of return but can appreciate not everyone would like to return.

Did TPapa do that before he took the TC properties for Larnaka airport?
Wouldn't that be nice, while you are at it can you get me two tickets to the neighbouring universe, I think we will have better luck solving the Cyprus problem there.

[Tony-4497]

Perhaps Christofias can ask the people to register their interests if they don't want to return, but are willing to accept compensation, this will allow a bit of willing negotiation form individuals and hence bother leaders have land mass to play with.

I personally support full right of return but can appreciate not everyone would like to return.

Did TPapa do that before he took the TC properties for Larnaka airport?
Wouldn't that be nice, while you are at it can you get me two tickets to the neighbouring universe, I think we will have better luck solving the Cyprus problem there.

Here we go again with Larnaca airport.. Quoting from an earlier post:

It is YOU who is confused. All over the world, governments LEGALLY make compulsory purchases of private property to use for PUBLIC projects, such as airports and roads - these stand when challenged in any international or European court.

Do you have any evidence suggesting that GC-owned land in the RoC has received preferential treatment in this respect? (i.e. that the RoC has used MORE TC-owned property than GC one, on a proportional basis, for public projects?). If not, then you do not have an argument.

GC leadership has, at the negotiations, accepted that such purchases, even by your Mickey-Mouse state, in the north will be accepted and owners will be paid compensation (i.e. roads, hospitals, airport, etc). I specifically excluded such properties in the thread post.