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[insan]

Lindahl stressed that the Swedish Presidency supports the accession of Turkey to the EU after full compliance with the conditions of the Union.

However, he continued, the Cyprus issue will not be solved by the opening of the Turkish ports to Cypriot ships as it was not solved before 1987 when the ports where still opened.

There is no European solution of the complicated Cyprus issue, there is only a Cypriot solution to be negotiated between the two parties within the UN framework with the support of the EU, he concluded in his speech.

http://zeus.hri.org/news/cyprus/cna/200 ... na.html#01

The national council decisions of GCs which reaffirm the existing "national cause" of GCs and also clearly supported by Papandreu; indicate that what Greek-GC duo r looking for is a "European Solution" inherited from TPap which was the common strategy of then the Greek government and GC adminsitration...

[halil]

The EU Commissioner for Enlargement Olli Rehn has said that the current opportunity towards finding a lasting and comprehensive solution in Cyprus should not be missed.

He also warned that failure to reach settlement in Cyprus by next spring will hinder relations between Turkey and the European Union.

In response to Mr. Rehn’s words, the Turkish Minster of State in Charge of EU Affairs and Chief Negotiator said that Turkey was waiting for the EU to start direct trade with the TRNC in order to open its ports to the Greek Cypriot traffic.

Both men were speaking at a dinner hosted at the British Embassy in Istanbul on the occasion of the 6th Phosphorous Conference organized jointly by the British Council, Delegation of the European Commission to Turkey and the Turkish Economic and Social Foundation.

Speaking at the dinner, Mr. Rehn underlined the importance for the two sides to maintain the current momentum in the talks and to continue negotiating on the basis of established UN parameters.

He also said that said it was important for both leaders to shut ears to extreme and pessimistic views on reaching a settlement coming from their respective communities.

Reminding that the Greek Cypriot side had rejected the UN sponsored Annan Plan in 2004, the EU Commissioner said it was time to move on.

He said that that the framework drawn up by the United Nations should act as a guide towards reaching a settlement, adding that the EU commission supported a solution on the island on the basis of UN parameters.

For his part, the Turkish Minster of State in Charge of EU Affairs and Chief Negotiator Egemen Bagis who pointed out that Turkish Cypriots and Greek Cypriots were currently conducting trade with each other said that they expected the EU to do the same thing.

“We want the remaining 26 countries to do the same thing. If the South Cyprus and North are trading with one another than other EU countries should be able to conduct direct trade with the TRNC” he added.
Bagis said that it was within this framework that they were expecting the EU to lift the isolations on the TRNC before they could open their ports to Greek Cypriot traffic.

Referring to the ongoing negotiations, the Turkish Minister of State said that Turkey was ready to unconditionally support any settlement agreed by the two leaders and approved by the two peoples in Cyprus.

[Oracle]

Lindahl stressed that the Swedish Presidency supports the accession of Turkey to the EU after full compliance with the conditions of the Union.

However, he continued, the Cyprus issue will not be solved by the opening of the Turkish ports to Cypriot ships as it was not solved before 1987 when the ports where still opened.

There is no European solution of the complicated Cyprus issue, there is only a Cypriot solution to be negotiated between the two parties within the UN framework with the support of the EU, he concluded in his speech.

http://zeus.hri.org/news/cyprus/cna/200 ... na.html#01

The national council decisions of GCs which reaffirm the existing "national cause" of GCs and also clearly supported by Papandreu; indicate that what Greek-GC duo r looking for is a "European Solution" inherited from TPap which was the common strategy of then the Greek government and GC adminsitration...

This is mincing with words. The "solution" is not just about opening ports. That is only one condition which Turkey has to meet to be considered for the EU.

The solution is about total withdrawal of Turkish troops and removal of the settlers. Again fulfilling that obligation by Turkey would allow consideration for EU entry, but not necessarily acceptance because Turkey has many obstacles towards EU accession, most having no direct implications towards the Cyprus Problem.

That the solution will probably come with EU help has more to do with the EU offering support to the RoC to implement the most realistic path towards freedom ... which may be in the end, military support.

[YFred]

Lindahl stressed that the Swedish Presidency supports the accession of Turkey to the EU after full compliance with the conditions of the Union.

However, he continued, the Cyprus issue will not be solved by the opening of the Turkish ports to Cypriot ships as it was not solved before 1987 when the ports where still opened.

There is no European solution of the complicated Cyprus issue, there is only a Cypriot solution to be negotiated between the two parties within the UN framework with the support of the EU, he concluded in his speech.

http://zeus.hri.org/news/cyprus/cna/200 ... na.html#01

The national council decisions of GCs which reaffirm the existing "national cause" of GCs and also clearly supported by Papandreu; indicate that what Greek-GC duo r looking for is a "European Solution" inherited from TPap which was the common strategy of then the Greek government and GC adminsitration...

This is mincing with words. The "solution" is not just about opening ports. That is only one condition which Turkey has to meet to be considered for the EU.

The solution is about total withdrawal of Turkish troops and removal of the settlers. Again fulfilling that obligation by Turkey would allow consideration for EU entry, but not necessarily acceptance because Turkey has many obstacles towards EU accession, most having no direct implications towards the Cyprus Problem.

That the solution will probably come with EU help has more to do with the EU offering support to the RoC to implement the most realistic path towards freedom ... which may be in the end, military support.

I was under the impression that that's all that was required. I seemed to remember the Oily Rhenney fellow saying that the troops were there before the chapters begun so it is irrelevant to the negotiations.

[Nikitas]

This game is calle pezevenglikki, and those who play it are known as pezevengides.

Turkey signed the Ankara protocol. It has nothing to do with solving the Cyprus issue, or even recognising Cyprus, simply opening ports and airports to Cypriot registered ships and aircraft.

But now all the pezevengides are retracting their signature and their word. It is a good job they are all men, so we can judge if they are worth the pants they wear.

How exactly is this Swedish pezevenglair upholding the principles of the EU by twisting out of having to tell the Turks they have to honor their word and signature they put in a deal with the EU? This is being European, according to the swedish interpretation of the word.

Aissihtir!

[Oracle]

Lindahl stressed that the Swedish Presidency supports the accession of Turkey to the EU after full compliance with the conditions of the Union.

However, he continued, the Cyprus issue will not be solved by the opening of the Turkish ports to Cypriot ships as it was not solved before 1987 when the ports where still opened.

There is no European solution of the complicated Cyprus issue, there is only a Cypriot solution to be negotiated between the two parties within the UN framework with the support of the EU, he concluded in his speech.

http://zeus.hri.org/news/cyprus/cna/200 ... na.html#01

The national council decisions of GCs which reaffirm the existing "national cause" of GCs and also clearly supported by Papandreu; indicate that what Greek-GC duo r looking for is a "European Solution" inherited from TPap which was the common strategy of then the Greek government and GC adminsitration...

This is mincing with words. The "solution" is not just about opening ports. That is only one condition which Turkey has to meet to be considered for the EU.

The solution is about total withdrawal of Turkish troops and removal of the settlers. Again fulfilling that obligation by Turkey would allow consideration for EU entry, but not necessarily acceptance because Turkey has many obstacles towards EU accession, most having no direct implications towards the Cyprus Problem.

That the solution will probably come with EU help has more to do with the EU offering support to the RoC to implement the most realistic path towards freedom ... which may be in the end, military support.

I was under the impression that that's all that was required. I seemed to remember the Oily Rhenney fellow saying that the troops were there before the chapters begun so it is irrelevant to the negotiations.

The Swede has minced his words so much it's no wonder you are the first to be confused. The opening of the Ports is only the requirement for EU accession talks to begin for Turkey. It has nothing to do with the conditions which it is obliged to meet to actually be considered.

No way will Turkey qualify for EU entry whilst it still has troops and settlers in Cyprus ... the withdrawal has been demanded by the EU many times.

So, for merely allowing negotiations for EU accession, Turkey first has to open the ports. Secondly, for any actual EU entry (pending meeting other criteria), Turkey also has to withdraw its troops.

[runaway]

Lindahl stressed that the Swedish Presidency supports the accession of Turkey to the EU after full compliance with the conditions of the Union.

However, he continued, the Cyprus issue will not be solved by the opening of the Turkish ports to Cypriot ships as it was not solved before 1987 when the ports where still opened.

There is no European solution of the complicated Cyprus issue, there is only a Cypriot solution to be negotiated between the two parties within the UN framework with the support of the EU, he concluded in his speech.

http://zeus.hri.org/news/cyprus/cna/200 ... na.html#01

The national council decisions of GCs which reaffirm the existing "national cause" of GCs and also clearly supported by Papandreu; indicate that what Greek-GC duo r looking for is a "European Solution" inherited from TPap which was the common strategy of then the Greek government and GC adminsitration...

This is mincing with words. The "solution" is not just about opening ports. That is only one condition which Turkey has to meet to be considered for the EU.

The solution is about total withdrawal of Turkish troops and removal of the settlers. Again fulfilling that obligation by Turkey would allow consideration for EU entry, but not necessarily acceptance because Turkey has many obstacles towards EU accession, most having no direct implications towards the Cyprus Problem.

That the solution will probably come with EU help has more to do with the EU offering support to the RoC to implement the most realistic path towards freedom ... which may be in the end, military support.

I was under the impression that that's all that was required. I seemed to remember the Oily Rhenney fellow saying that the troops were there before the chapters begun so it is irrelevant to the negotiations.

The opening of the Ports is only the requirement for EU accession talks to begin for Turkey. .

EU accession talks of Türkiye began back in 2005 and never stopped. Someone's being ignorant.

[insan]

Keep pretending that recognition of the so-called RoC by Turkey wouldn't constitute a great impact on solution of Cyprus problem in frame of Hellenic solution thesis.

[Oracle]

Lindahl stressed that the Swedish Presidency supports the accession of Turkey to the EU after full compliance with the conditions of the Union.

However, he continued, the Cyprus issue will not be solved by the opening of the Turkish ports to Cypriot ships as it was not solved before 1987 when the ports where still opened.

There is no European solution of the complicated Cyprus issue, there is only a Cypriot solution to be negotiated between the two parties within the UN framework with the support of the EU, he concluded in his speech.

http://zeus.hri.org/news/cyprus/cna/200 ... na.html#01

The national council decisions of GCs which reaffirm the existing "national cause" of GCs and also clearly supported by Papandreu; indicate that what Greek-GC duo r looking for is a "European Solution" inherited from TPap which was the common strategy of then the Greek government and GC adminsitration...

This is mincing with words. The "solution" is not just about opening ports. That is only one condition which Turkey has to meet to be considered for the EU.

The solution is about total withdrawal of Turkish troops and removal of the settlers. Again fulfilling that obligation by Turkey would allow consideration for EU entry, but not necessarily acceptance because Turkey has many obstacles towards EU accession, most having no direct implications towards the Cyprus Problem.

That the solution will probably come with EU help has more to do with the EU offering support to the RoC to implement the most realistic path towards freedom ... which may be in the end, military support.

I was under the impression that that's all that was required. I seemed to remember the Oily Rhenney fellow saying that the troops were there before the chapters begun so it is irrelevant to the negotiations.

The opening of the Ports is only the requirement for EU accession talks to begin for Turkey. .

EU accession talks of Türkiye began back in 2005 and never stopped. Someone's being ignorant.

Not really because a lot of the chapters have been blocked. That is a de facto cessation of accession talks!

[Get Real!]

Lindahl stressed that the Swedish Presidency supports the accession of Turkey to the EU....

There’s nothing newsworthy here Insan…no need for a thread just for that!