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[YFred]

Halil, the top of this post is very worrying, it looks like somone light a match near Kickapoo's bum and it cought fire. Don't smoke near him for god sake.

I was going to give you a break and not make a comment, was the reason why I changed my mind and cancelled my post above, but since you want to make a point of it, then let me bring it back and ask you to explain yourself.

I know Mulayim, he lived in Lurucina up to 74. Halil give him my regards.

So YFred, doesn't the above statement add one more piece to the puzzle of you being in Cyprus in 1974 since you know so well of this character Mulayim being there until 1974. How can you be so certain he was in Luruciana in 1974 if you were not there with him, hmmmmmmmmmmm.?

Also, why are you and VP so much into BUMS.?

This Forum, if you let it, can open up a whole new world for you Kiks....One with phones and letters and family......I have no idea what Fred is going to say to you but your world is so small be gardas.....You see what you want to see and all logic goes out the window......My two year old niece could give you a few more examples of how communication works and possible outcomes of what you asked

Zan, my friend, has it ever occurred to you that I may have my own ways of interrogating suspects, oops sorry, I meant asking questions to YFred my way, which are designed to lead into something else to something else to something else until he gets caught in his own web that he weaves. Aren't you being very simplistic in stating the obvious in what you wrote, that even your 2 year old, I'm sure very smart and adorable niece could figure out, just because you are approaching the subject from an innocent angle, but to those who continually trip themselves up with inconsistent and self incriminating information, even the above obvious answers would further get themselves tangled up. This is how criminals always get caught, because when they don't tell the truth, they soon forget which lie they last told, hence getting themselves trip all over themselves. Please Zan, give me a little credit for as if I have not seen the obvious you have stated above.!

Now, how you not wondered as to why YFred has not answered my post yet.!

Your argument of why I have not answered your post is full of shit, I have not been on line. If I had been and not answered you may have a point. Even then I may choose not to answer just to wind you up because I understand how it winds you up when I ignore you.

Get some help, God knows you need it. Lawyer you will never make. You are led up blind alleys every time like a good little sheep. The judge would have charged you with contempt of court every time and it would have cost you more money than if you had accepted my challenge.

Now I am a changed man. I have decided to go back to what I was like when I first joined. So I shall take the trouble to explain things to you so that you can be slightly more enlightened.

As far as Mulayim efendi is concerened, Bodamya, Aysozzomeno and Dali TCs came to Lurucina in 63, and stayed there till 74. Because there was nowhere else for them to go. There villages were walking distance away and they chose not to go back even in the calm years prior to 74 intervention. That should tell you volumes about the security aspect just before the 74. Situation changed after the Turkish Army came to the TCs rescue in 74. They all moved on mass out of Lurucina and settled in the north. I think you will find that the Bodamya people settled in Argaca. How do I know this fact, is the question and you are implying that I am a liar and that I must have been there in 1974. Well it just goes to show how much of an arshole you are. In 1974, when this event happened I had 2 brothers, 2 sisters, mum and dad and lots of bodamyali friends living in Lurucina I communicated with at the time. The main form of communication at the time was a letter. My Mother at the time could not read or write so used to get others to write her letters. She actually learned to read and write at the age of 55 to be able to communicate with us without having to depend on others, which rather puts you into real shame because you can read and write and yet you are unable to communicate with most TC. The only reason you are communicating with GCs is because you are saying what they want to hear.

While I am in this giving and friendly mood, I will also explain to you the land situation and why I am right and you are out of your head, to insist on something you know nothing about.
In 1974 (I promises I was not there, I just know because its the way I am) local Lurucadis, made a land swap agreement with the local GCs. If you look at google map, you will see a line of Electricity Pylons splitting the Lurucina land West of 80%/ east of 20% approximately. As the GCs gave Lurucadis a strip of land between Lurucina and Piroyi to be able to access TRNC unimpeded, the Lurucadis gave them to 20% lurucina land to the east of the Electric pylons. Now very high percentage of the land in the 20% belongs to my family. We have plenty more else where, the party in Power at the time was UBP and looked after their people by giving the GC land to their party members rather than those who lost land to the GCs.

So when I say to you We have no GC land to grow wheat and we grow on totally TC land, it is actually very precise and true. If you dared take the challenge I would have cleaned you out. I am no practicing Muslim, but I don't gamble. An apology any time will be accepted.
Regards

BTW Top of the mornin to all of you chaps and chappesses and puffdas an all.

Do you think he will come back and ask you the same question again Fred? Just remember what you said because Kilumbos techniques are sooooooooooo very tricky.....


Kiks

My niece says you are talking crap yet again.....

He is checking every single fact with his bum chums at the UBP headquarters. I have finally twigged what he is about. He is part of an UBP plan which inherently is against peace. He has aligned himself with the GCs to encourage them to demand so much that there cannot be peace. But that’s another story for another day.
As to his questioning manner and style, I though he was into politics but apparently he sees himself as a lawyer to out TCs who are not telling the truth. He can ask me 10 thousand times and he will have the same answer.

Either way he is an absolute arse. In order to accuse, you must have some evidence and I know he has no evidence, because there isn’t any to be had so he is the one who is a liar. To then attack a totally innocent person without a shred of evidence also shows him to be of a person with no integrity. Not even worth posting against, but I promised Insan I would go back to what I was like and that I have done and will maintain under any provocation.

I liked your analogy of your 2 year old nice being able to answer that question which my friend needed an answer to. That puts him below the mental age of 2.

Now, if he does not apologise that means he has no conscience either and I think the decent forumers can see that.

I think we have both wasted to much time on him!!!!

I am inclined to agree with you, I will not waste any more time on him no matter how much provocation he dishes out.

[YFred]

I dont like where this is going, I am going to start a new topic to remind you of the religion they have in Turkey. How can you talk or even see someone who doesn't believe in Jesus? Unless you plan to go close enough to poison his coffee, then you are going straight to hell for treason.

Ohhhh, you mean that place that Makarios, Grivas, Yorgadjis and the rest of the eoga gang have gone and are going to.

Who needs to go to heaven, where you sing to pot plants and do morris dancing and things like that? We all want to go to hell where all the action is, where all the whores are etc etc etc. Get my drift so go back to you medieval times with your religion and frighten the punters that didn't know any better will you?

[repulsewarrior]

...it's not a question of heaven or hell. it is a question of life. we go back to where we came from, which is the eternal. haven't you figured out the law of entropy; everything on this cosmic plane dies.

[bill cobbett]

...it's not a question of heaven or hell. it is a question of life. we go back to where we came from, which is the eternal. haven't you figured out the law of entropy; everything on this cosmic plane dies.

Heaven and Hell?

My brothers and sisters, open the Doors of Perception so that your minds are freed.

[patriotisplus]

The ONLY acceptable solution is for all foreigners to be purged and Cyprus declared a Hellenic Orthodox state. If you don't obey God's command, many people like me will gladly fight this war.
"God commands Saul to strike Amalek and destroy all that they have. Do not spare them, but kill both man and woman, child and infant."

[Kikapu]

Halil, the top of this post is very worrying, it looks like somone light a match near Kickapoo's bum and it cought fire. Don't smoke near him for god sake.

I was going to give you a break and not make a comment, was the reason why I changed my mind and cancelled my post above, but since you want to make a point of it, then let me bring it back and ask you to explain yourself.

I know Mulayim, he lived in Lurucina up to 74. Halil give him my regards.

So YFred, doesn't the above statement add one more piece to the puzzle of you being in Cyprus in 1974 since you know so well of this character Mulayim being there until 1974. How can you be so certain he was in Luruciana in 1974 if you were not there with him, hmmmmmmmmmmm.?

Also, why are you and VP so much into BUMS.?

This Forum, if you let it, can open up a whole new world for you Kiks....One with phones and letters and family......I have no idea what Fred is going to say to you but your world is so small be gardas.....You see what you want to see and all logic goes out the window......My two year old niece could give you a few more examples of how communication works and possible outcomes of what you asked

Zan, my friend, has it ever occurred to you that I may have my own ways of interrogating suspects, oops sorry, I meant asking questions to YFred my way, which are designed to lead into something else to something else to something else until he gets caught in his own web that he weaves. Aren't you being very simplistic in stating the obvious in what you wrote, that even your 2 year old, I'm sure very smart and adorable niece could figure out, just because you are approaching the subject from an innocent angle, but to those who continually trip themselves up with inconsistent and self incriminating information, even the above obvious answers would further get themselves tangled up. This is how criminals always get caught, because when they don't tell the truth, they soon forget which lie they last told, hence getting themselves trip all over themselves. Please Zan, give me a little credit for as if I have not seen the obvious you have stated above.!

Now, how you not wondered as to why YFred has not answered my post yet.!

Your argument of why I have not answered your post is full of shit, I have not been on line. If I had been and not answered you may have a point. Even then I may choose not to answer just to wind you up because I understand how it winds you up when I ignore you.

Sure, sure.........

Get some help, God knows you need it. Lawyer you will never make. You are led up blind alleys every time like a good little sheep. The judge would have charged you with contempt of court every time and it would have cost you more money than if you had accepted my challenge.

Sure, sure........

Now I am a changed man. I have decided to go back to what I was like when I first joined. So I shall take the trouble to explain things to you so that you can be slightly more enlightened.

Sure, sure............

As far as Mulayim efendi is concerened, Bodamya, Aysozzomeno and Dali TCs came to Lurucina in 63, and stayed there till 74. Because there was nowhere else for them to go. There villages were walking distance away and they chose not to go back even in the calm years prior to 74 intervention. That should tell you volumes about the security aspect just before the 74. Situation changed after the Turkish Army came to the TCs rescue in 74. They all moved on mass out of Lurucina and settled in the north. I think you will find that the Bodamya people settled in Argaca. How do I know this fact, is the question and you are implying that I am a liar and that I must have been there in 1974. Well it just goes to show how much of an arshole you are. In 1974, when this event happened I had 2 brothers, 2 sisters, mum and dad and lots of bodamyali friends living in Lurucina I communicated with at the time. The main form of communication at the time was a letter. My Mother at the time could not read or write so used to get others to write her letters. She actually learned to read and write at the age of 55 to be able to communicate with us without having to depend on others, which rather puts you into real shame because you can read and write and yet you are unable to communicate with most TC. The only reason you are communicating with GCs is because you are saying what they want to hear.

So YFred, you as a young boy of age around 13-14 is sent to the UK in 1972 while rest of your family stayed behind. Does this sound reasonable to you for us to accept as being fact. If things were as bad as you have stated while living in "enclaves", why didn't the rest of you family go with you. I know my family left Cyprus in stages from 1963-1968, but those were the worse times in Cyprus for the TCs.

While I am in this giving and friendly mood, I will also explain to you the land situation and why I am right and you are out of your head, to insist on something you know nothing about.

Oh, Good.!

In 1974 (I promises I was not there, I just know because its the way I am) local Lurucadis, made a land swap agreement with the local GCs. If you look at google map, you will see a line of Electricity Pylons splitting the Lurucina land West of 80%/ east of 20% approximately. As the GCs gave Lurucadis a strip of land between Lurucina and Piroyi to be able to access TRNC unimpeded, the Lurucadis gave them to 20% lurucina land to the east of the Electric pylons. Now very high percentage of the land in the 20% belongs to my family. We have plenty more else where, the party in Power at the time was UBP and looked after their people by giving the GC land to their party members rather than those who lost land to the GCs.

Once again, I'm having a hard time understanding what you have written above, so let me get this straight. In 1974 your family is living in Lurucina and not some enclave you have stated before, and after the Turkish Intervention followed by Invasion where thousand of GCs got killed, murdered, raped and went missing along with TCs, the TCs and GCs of Lurucina were able to on companionate reasons exchange land to make life easy for each other.! So tell me YFred, was this land exchange based on "gentleman’s agreement" or was it actually recorded at the land registry office with the RoC.? But in any case, you are saying your family's land was given to the GCs and I presume you took some of theirs and now it is yours as a TC land, in which case you no longer have any land in the south as you have stated before that your family owns land in the south, but if you made the exchange with the GCs, how can that be.? Does this not make your leaving Cyprus in 1972 a very convenient, so that you can put in a claim on "your" land in the south by not having to live in the south for 6 month, since those who left Cyprus before 1974 can put in a claim, just like what our friend Deniz has done, even though you have also made the statement that your family had already made land "exchange" with the GCs in 1974 after the Invasion by Turkey where masses were killed, went missing and got raped, that they shouldn't have any land in the south at all, but you have told as many times that you have at least 100 Dönüms of YFred clan's land in the south which your father even refused to exchange it for GC land in the north according to you, just because he was not offered equivalent land against his in the south.!

So when I say to you We have no GC land to grow wheat and we grow on totally TC land, it is actually very precise and true.

No, YFred. What you are saying is, you do have GC land but it is now a TC land because it was supposedly has been exchanged with the GCs in 1974 after the Invasion by Turkey, which is the reason why you refuse to meet my demands for you to get your apology, because you know not everything with your land in the north is squeaky clean, is it now.?

If you dared take the challenge I would have cleaned you out. I am no practicing Muslim, but I don't gamble. An apology any time will be accepted.

Your apology is ready to be given, as soon as you meet my demands which you have refused to do so. If your concience is clear and what you say is all true, then do what I ask of you and my apologies will follow. The choice is entirely yours.

Regards

Regards back.!

[halil]

Halil, the top of this post is very worrying, it looks like somone light a match near Kickapoo's bum and it cought fire. Don't smoke near him for god sake.

I was going to give you a break and not make a comment, was the reason why I changed my mind and cancelled my post above, but since you want to make a point of it, then let me bring it back and ask you to explain yourself.

I know Mulayim, he lived in Lurucina up to 74. Halil give him my regards.

So YFred, doesn't the above statement add one more piece to the puzzle of you being in Cyprus in 1974 since you know so well of this character Mulayim being there until 1974. How can you be so certain he was in Luruciana in 1974 if you were not there with him, hmmmmmmmmmmm.?

Also, why are you and VP so much into BUMS.?

This Forum, if you let it, can open up a whole new world for you Kiks....One with phones and letters and family......I have no idea what Fred is going to say to you but your world is so small be gardas.....You see what you want to see and all logic goes out the window......My two year old niece could give you a few more examples of how communication works and possible outcomes of what you asked

Zan, my friend, has it ever occurred to you that I may have my own ways of interrogating suspects, oops sorry, I meant asking questions to YFred my way, which are designed to lead into something else to something else to something else until he gets caught in his own web that he weaves. Aren't you being very simplistic in stating the obvious in what you wrote, that even your 2 year old, I'm sure very smart and adorable niece could figure out, just because you are approaching the subject from an innocent angle, but to those who continually trip themselves up with inconsistent and self incriminating information, even the above obvious answers would further get themselves tangled up. This is how criminals always get caught, because when they don't tell the truth, they soon forget which lie they last told, hence getting themselves trip all over themselves. Please Zan, give me a little credit for as if I have not seen the obvious you have stated above.!

Now, how you not wondered as to why YFred has not answered my post yet.!

Your argument of why I have not answered your post is full of shit, I have not been on line. If I had been and not answered you may have a point. Even then I may choose not to answer just to wind you up because I understand how it winds you up when I ignore you.

Sure, sure.........

Get some help, God knows you need it. Lawyer you will never make. You are led up blind alleys every time like a good little sheep. The judge would have charged you with contempt of court every time and it would have cost you more money than if you had accepted my challenge.

Sure, sure........

Now I am a changed man. I have decided to go back to what I was like when I first joined. So I shall take the trouble to explain things to you so that you can be slightly more enlightened.

Sure, sure............

As far as Mulayim efendi is concerened, Bodamya, Aysozzomeno and Dali TCs came to Lurucina in 63, and stayed there till 74. Because there was nowhere else for them to go. There villages were walking distance away and they chose not to go back even in the calm years prior to 74 intervention. That should tell you volumes about the security aspect just before the 74. Situation changed after the Turkish Army came to the TCs rescue in 74. They all moved on mass out of Lurucina and settled in the north. I think you will find that the Bodamya people settled in Argaca. How do I know this fact, is the question and you are implying that I am a liar and that I must have been there in 1974. Well it just goes to show how much of an arshole you are. In 1974, when this event happened I had 2 brothers, 2 sisters, mum and dad and lots of bodamyali friends living in Lurucina I communicated with at the time. The main form of communication at the time was a letter. My Mother at the time could not read or write so used to get others to write her letters. She actually learned to read and write at the age of 55 to be able to communicate with us without having to depend on others, which rather puts you into real shame because you can read and write and yet you are unable to communicate with most TC. The only reason you are communicating with GCs is because you are saying what they want to hear.

So YFred, you as a young boy of age around 13-14 is sent to the UK in 1972 while rest of your family stayed behind. Does this sound reasonable to you for us to accept as being fact. If things were as bad as you have stated while living in "enclaves", why didn't the rest of you family go with you. I know my family left Cyprus in stages from 1963-1968, but those were the worse times in Cyprus for the TCs.

While I am in this giving and friendly mood, I will also explain to you the land situation and why I am right and you are out of your head, to insist on something you know nothing about.

Oh, Good.!

In 1974 (I promises I was not there, I just know because its the way I am) local Lurucadis, made a land swap agreement with the local GCs. If you look at google map, you will see a line of Electricity Pylons splitting the Lurucina land West of 80%/ east of 20% approximately. As the GCs gave Lurucadis a strip of land between Lurucina and Piroyi to be able to access TRNC unimpeded, the Lurucadis gave them to 20% lurucina land to the east of the Electric pylons. Now very high percentage of the land in the 20% belongs to my family. We have plenty more else where, the party in Power at the time was UBP and looked after their people by giving the GC land to their party members rather than those who lost land to the GCs.

Once again, I'm having a hard time understanding what you have written above, so let me get this straight. In 1974 your family is living in Lurucina and not some enclave you have stated before, and after the Turkish Intervention followed by Invasion where thousand of GCs got killed, murdered, raped and went missing along with TCs, the TCs and GCs of Lurucina were able to on companionate reasons exchange land to make life easy for each other.! So tell me YFred, was this land exchange based on "gentleman’s agreement" or was it actually recorded at the land registry office with the RoC.? But in any case, you are saying your family's land was given to the GCs and I presume you took some of theirs and now it is yours as a TC land, in which case you no longer have any land in the south as you have stated before that your family owns land in the south, but if you made the exchange with the GCs, how can that be.? Does this not make your leaving Cyprus in 1972 a very convenient, so that you can put in a claim on "your" land in the south by not having to live in the south for 6 month, since those who left Cyprus before 1974 can put in a claim, just like what our friend Deniz has done, even though you have also made the statement that your family had already made land "exchange" with the GCs in 1974 after the Invasion by Turkey where masses were killed, went missing and got raped, that they shouldn't have any land in the south at all, but you have told as many times that you have at least 100 Dönüms of YFred clan's land in the south which your father even refused to exchange it for GC land in the north according to you, just because he was not offered equivalent land against his in the south.!

So when I say to you We have no GC land to grow wheat and we grow on totally TC land, it is actually very precise and true.

No, YFred. What you are saying is, you do have GC land but it is now a TC land because it was supposedly has been exchanged with the GCs in 1974 after the Invasion by Turkey, which is the reason why you refuse to meet my demands for you to get your apology, because you know not everything with your land in the north is squeaky clean, is it now.?

If you dared take the challenge I would have cleaned you out. I am no practicing Muslim, but I don't gamble. An apology any time will be accepted.

Your apology is ready to be given, as soon as you meet my demands which you have refused to do so. If your concience is clear and what you say is all true, then do what I ask of you and my apologies will follow. The choice is entirely yours.

Regards

Regards back.!

Fucking hell .... in here we suppose to talk about Peace efforts of our young boys and girls

How , u the big boys can help them ............

with your willy is XXXXXX than mine ...... no ....no mine is XXXXXXXXXX than yours.......

[YFred]

You are a lost cause. The facts about land and Mulayim Efendi can be checked. You could have asked Halil to check with him when he left Lurucina. As to when I left Cyprus you can think what you like. Where did I say I left the rest of my family in Cyprus. You really should not make things up as you go along. FYI I also have 2 brothers and a sister in London who made the same journey before me and are much older than me.

You have now confirmed to me that you are one utter arshole.

If you had an ounce of sense, you would use your contacts in the UBP and if you find a single incorrect fact I have stated, you can then challenge. In the mean time shut up because you are making a bigger arshole of yourself.

When you have done that please get back to me. Now that will guarantee you will never get back.

Goodbye.

[YFred]

Sorry Halil for hijacking your thread, but Kickapoo is being an arshole again as usual. But I have decided no longer to continue and feed his obsession.

[YFred]

The ONLY acceptable solution is for all foreigners to be purged and Cyprus declared a Hellenic Orthodox state. If you don't obey God's command, many people like me will gladly fight this war.
"God commands Saul to strike Amalek and destroy all that they have. Do not spare them, but kill both man and woman, child and infant."

When exactly did god say this and were there any witnesses. Did God really say kill children and women in the Bible. Please tell me which verse so I can look it up.
Regards