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Postby halil » Tue Oct 20, 2009 7:22 pm

While polititions keeps the air hot in Cyprus ..... bi-communal activities goes on well .

Bi-communal activity will be held in Pile village as well .
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Postby bill cobbett » Tue Oct 20, 2009 8:16 pm

YFred wrote:You are mixing them again.

The peace agreement will deal with the property issue. One thing you can be sure of is that not all TC or GC will be able to return to their property for various reasons. Hence, there will be some who will accept compensation instead. One is part of the peace agreement the Troops will go after the peace agreement. Not all the troops will go, as It is their legal right not to go. If you wish to negotiate the complete removal of all the Turkish troops, then you need to talk to my mate Eddy Turk.

I would have thought it is blatantly obvious that not all will return to their properties. If you expect it, then you will be disappointed.


The property issue has been dealt with by the ECJ, earlier this year, and by other Courts at other times, all confirming that property was, is, and always will be, with the pre-74 proper owners.
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Postby YFred » Tue Oct 20, 2009 8:44 pm

bill cobbett wrote:
YFred wrote:You are mixing them again.

The peace agreement will deal with the property issue. One thing you can be sure of is that not all TC or GC will be able to return to their property for various reasons. Hence, there will be some who will accept compensation instead. One is part of the peace agreement the Troops will go after the peace agreement. Not all the troops will go, as It is their legal right not to go. If you wish to negotiate the complete removal of all the Turkish troops, then you need to talk to my mate Eddy Turk.

I would have thought it is blatantly obvious that not all will return to their properties. If you expect it, then you will be disappointed.


The property issue has been dealt with by the ECJ, earlier this year, and by other Courts at other times, all confirming that property was, is, and always will be, with the pre-74 proper owners.

Bill even Muhtar X accepts that the property issue cannot be solved in the EU courts. It hase to be solved in the peace agreement.
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Postby Viewpoint » Tue Oct 20, 2009 9:06 pm

Tony-4497 wrote:The above posts go to show that those idiots in the RoC (both individuals and politicians) that support the entire "re-approachment of the communities" idea serve ONLY the Turkish interests.

The Cyprus problem is NOT about the two communities "getting on". It is the illegal occupation of 37% of the RoC by a foreign country.

Through the so-called intercommunal talks, events etc, all the RoC is doing is providing an alibi to Turkey which is presented as an innocent third party to the whole issue.


Can you believe this joker!!!1974 changed the dynamics in Cyprus forever, do you think TCs and GCs can return to properties which have been demolished or where new buildings have been erected...or to villages they dont even know??? compensation will be the only option in many cases..in those where it is physically possible then by all means but we have to all be realistic and understand that things will never ever be as they were.
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Postby Tony-4497 » Wed Oct 21, 2009 8:19 am

Viewpoint wrote:
Tony-4497 wrote:The above posts go to show that those idiots in the RoC (both individuals and politicians) that support the entire "re-approachment of the communities" idea serve ONLY the Turkish interests.

The Cyprus problem is NOT about the two communities "getting on". It is the illegal occupation of 37% of the RoC by a foreign country.

Through the so-called intercommunal talks, events etc, all the RoC is doing is providing an alibi to Turkey which is presented as an innocent third party to the whole issue.


Can you believe this joker!!!1974 changed the dynamics in Cyprus forever, do you think TCs and GCs can return to properties which have been demolished or where new buildings have been erected...or to villages they dont even know??? compensation will be the only option in many cases..in those where it is physically possible then by all means but we have to all be realistic and understand that things will never ever be as they were.


I am pretty sure that any international court or reasonable person will think YOU are the joker if you are suggesting that just because you brutally forced people out of their properties and then built something on it, they lose ownership and are forced to accept compensation for it.
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Postby Nikitas » Wed Oct 21, 2009 9:34 am

VP said:

"do you think TCs and GCs can return to properties ..."

Perhaps they might not want to return to RESIDE in these properties, but might want to retain ownership and economic exploitation. Look at this from the point of view of a TC who lives in some village in Karpasia but owns valuable land in the port area of Limassol (a very likely scenario). He might not want to go live in Limassol, yet, but will definiely want the rent from his land.

The complication in this issue is not the presumed desire of GCs to return to the north, but the overooked desire of TCs not to let go of valuable property in the south.
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Re: JUMPSTART THE PEACE IN CYPRUS

Postby halil » Thu Oct 22, 2009 12:52 pm

halil wrote:Image


Dear friends here is the web page of the Jumpstart the Peace in Cyprus.

http://www.jumpstart-cyprus.org/links/main-en.html
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Postby Viewpoint » Thu Oct 22, 2009 8:35 pm

Tony-4497 wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
Tony-4497 wrote:The above posts go to show that those idiots in the RoC (both individuals and politicians) that support the entire "re-approachment of the communities" idea serve ONLY the Turkish interests.

The Cyprus problem is NOT about the two communities "getting on". It is the illegal occupation of 37% of the RoC by a foreign country.

Through the so-called intercommunal talks, events etc, all the RoC is doing is providing an alibi to Turkey which is presented as an innocent third party to the whole issue.


Can you believe this joker!!!1974 changed the dynamics in Cyprus forever, do you think TCs and GCs can return to properties which have been demolished or where new buildings have been erected...or to villages they dont even know??? compensation will be the only option in many cases..in those where it is physically possible then by all means but we have to all be realistic and understand that things will never ever be as they were.


I am pretty sure that any international court or reasonable person will think YOU are the joker if you are suggesting that just because you brutally forced people out of their properties and then built something on it, they lose ownership and are forced to accept compensation for it.


OK youve solved it ask the international court to give you your property back. Why didnt we all think about that pure genious man.
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Postby Kikapu » Thu Oct 22, 2009 9:56 pm

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Postby YFred » Thu Oct 22, 2009 10:02 pm

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