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Postby Gregory » Mon Oct 19, 2009 9:26 pm

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Gregory wrote:
zan wrote:
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Nikitas wrote:So we are to assume that Davoutoglou is threatening with annexation of the occupied territories?

Have the TCs been told about this and have they agreed? Davoutoglou might have a big surprise when he tells them.



Just like Tpap discussed that partition would be better than power sharing then we can assume that others might discuss the possibility of a NO SOLUTION strategy. We are not just going to sit around for another 40 years Nikitas. Annexation is not a new theory!!!


When exaclty did the President of this Republic say that partition is better than power sharing?


It was posted here a while back Gregory....Can't remember by whom??


I see. Any chance of re-posting it because your claim sounds quite preposterous to me.



We started off by being polite to each other Gregory but this is the second time you have been condescending. The first by asking my age in the manner that you did. I have given up trying to prove what I say over and over again. If you are really interested then you will endeavor to find anything on it yourself....If not, then I said it anyway. If my memory serves me right, it was a GC that posted it. :?


Now if you want to give examples of the blacks in SA standing up for their rights then allow me the same privilege!!


This is what you posted to someone in another thread today and I'll ask the same from you.
Take a moment to sort it out in your own head and stop waiting for us to do all the hard work for you


You made a ridiculous quote regarding the former President of Cyprus and I claim that such rubbish cannot be written here without proof. In the same manner I can say that Ecevit had said

" Our sole aim was to wipe as many of those gavours off the face of this earth in 74. Its a shame we were forced to stop just when the concentration camps were passing through their ISO tests."

Now I won't even if I think its was posted here a while back by someone I can't remember.

Retract the statement or prove it. I've called you on it and I don't like people misquoting for their own feeble arguments.

Apologies if this is getting personal but its a pet peeve of mine.
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Postby YFred » Mon Oct 19, 2009 9:46 pm

Gregory wrote:
zan wrote:
Gregory wrote:
zan wrote:
Gregory wrote:
zan wrote:
Nikitas wrote:So we are to assume that Davoutoglou is threatening with annexation of the occupied territories?

Have the TCs been told about this and have they agreed? Davoutoglou might have a big surprise when he tells them.



Just like Tpap discussed that partition would be better than power sharing then we can assume that others might discuss the possibility of a NO SOLUTION strategy. We are not just going to sit around for another 40 years Nikitas. Annexation is not a new theory!!!


When exaclty did the President of this Republic say that partition is better than power sharing?


It was posted here a while back Gregory....Can't remember by whom??


I see. Any chance of re-posting it because your claim sounds quite preposterous to me.



We started off by being polite to each other Gregory but this is the second time you have been condescending. The first by asking my age in the manner that you did. I have given up trying to prove what I say over and over again. If you are really interested then you will endeavor to find anything on it yourself....If not, then I said it anyway. If my memory serves me right, it was a GC that posted it. :?


Now if you want to give examples of the blacks in SA standing up for their rights then allow me the same privilege!!


This is what you posted to someone in another thread today and I'll ask the same from you.
Take a moment to sort it out in your own head and stop waiting for us to do all the hard work for you


You made a ridiculous quote regarding the former President of Cyprus and I claim that such rubbish cannot be written here without proof. In the same manner I can say that Ecevit had said

" Our sole aim was to wipe as many of those gavours off the face of this earth in 74. Its a shame we were forced to stop just when the concentration camps were passing through their ISO tests."

Now I won't even if I think its was posted here a while back by someone I can't remember.

Retract the statement or prove it. I've called you on it and I don't like people misquoting for their own feeble arguments.

Apologies if this is getting personal but its a pet peeve of mine.

Gregory, what do you suppose, TPapa wanted to speak to Dengtash Jnr about when he tried to meet him secretly?

Was it about unification?

Or would you like a link to prove that he wanted to speak with him?
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Postby Gregory » Mon Oct 19, 2009 9:59 pm

YFred wrote:
Gregory wrote:
zan wrote:
Gregory wrote:
zan wrote:
Gregory wrote:
zan wrote:
Nikitas wrote:So we are to assume that Davoutoglou is threatening with annexation of the occupied territories?

Have the TCs been told about this and have they agreed? Davoutoglou might have a big surprise when he tells them.



Just like Tpap discussed that partition would be better than power sharing then we can assume that others might discuss the possibility of a NO SOLUTION strategy. We are not just going to sit around for another 40 years Nikitas. Annexation is not a new theory!!!


When exaclty did the President of this Republic say that partition is better than power sharing?


It was posted here a while back Gregory....Can't remember by whom??


I see. Any chance of re-posting it because your claim sounds quite preposterous to me.



We started off by being polite to each other Gregory but this is the second time you have been condescending. The first by asking my age in the manner that you did. I have given up trying to prove what I say over and over again. If you are really interested then you will endeavor to find anything on it yourself....If not, then I said it anyway. If my memory serves me right, it was a GC that posted it. :?


Now if you want to give examples of the blacks in SA standing up for their rights then allow me the same privilege!!


This is what you posted to someone in another thread today and I'll ask the same from you.
Take a moment to sort it out in your own head and stop waiting for us to do all the hard work for you


You made a ridiculous quote regarding the former President of Cyprus and I claim that such rubbish cannot be written here without proof. In the same manner I can say that Ecevit had said

" Our sole aim was to wipe as many of those gavours off the face of this earth in 74. Its a shame we were forced to stop just when the concentration camps were passing through their ISO tests."

Now I won't even if I think its was posted here a while back by someone I can't remember.

Retract the statement or prove it. I've called you on it and I don't like people misquoting for their own feeble arguments.

Apologies if this is getting personal but its a pet peeve of mine.

Gregory, what do you suppose, TPapa wanted to speak to Dengtash Jnr about when he tried to meet him secretly?

Was it about unification?

Or would you like a link to prove that he wanted to speak with him?


I'm quite aware as the whole island is that they met to speak during the vote.

Zan had said however
Tpap discussed that partition would be better than power sharing


which is an entirely different thing.
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Postby Oracle » Mon Oct 19, 2009 10:06 pm

zan wrote:
Nikitas wrote:So we are to assume that Davoutoglou is threatening with annexation of the occupied territories?

Have the TCs been told about this and have they agreed? Davoutoglou might have a big surprise when he tells them.



Just like Tpap discussed that partition would be better than power sharing then we can assume that others might discuss the possibility of a NO SOLUTION strategy. We are not just going to sit around for another 40 years Nikitas. Annexation is not a new theory!!!


That's the third time today you have been caught deliberately making stuff up off the top of your minuscule head ...

Desperation ... :lol:
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Postby Oracle » Mon Oct 19, 2009 10:09 pm

zan wrote:
Gregory wrote:
zan wrote:
Gregory wrote:
zan wrote:
Nikitas wrote:So we are to assume that Davoutoglou is threatening with annexation of the occupied territories?

Have the TCs been told about this and have they agreed? Davoutoglou might have a big surprise when he tells them.



Just like Tpap discussed that partition would be better than power sharing then we can assume that others might discuss the possibility of a NO SOLUTION strategy. We are not just going to sit around for another 40 years Nikitas. Annexation is not a new theory!!!


When exaclty did the President of this Republic say that partition is better than power sharing?


It was posted here a while back Gregory....Can't remember by whom??


I see. Any chance of re-posting it because your claim sounds quite preposterous to me.



We started off by being polite to each other Gregory but this is the second time you have been condescending. The first by asking my age in the manner that you did. I have given up trying to prove what I say over and over again. If you are really interested then you will endeavor to find anything on it yourself....If not, then I said it anyway. If my memory serves me right, it was a GC that posted it. :?


Now if you want to give examples of the blacks in SA standing up for their rights then allow me the same privilege!!


Righteous indignation now, huh Zan? :lol:

Picked yourself up after last week's blunder with your ignorance on Apartheid and South Africa ... :lol:
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Postby YFred » Mon Oct 19, 2009 11:59 pm

Gregory wrote:
YFred wrote:
Gregory wrote:
zan wrote:
Gregory wrote:
zan wrote:
Gregory wrote:
zan wrote:
Nikitas wrote:So we are to assume that Davoutoglou is threatening with annexation of the occupied territories?

Have the TCs been told about this and have they agreed? Davoutoglou might have a big surprise when he tells them.



Just like Tpap discussed that partition would be better than power sharing then we can assume that others might discuss the possibility of a NO SOLUTION strategy. We are not just going to sit around for another 40 years Nikitas. Annexation is not a new theory!!!


When exaclty did the President of this Republic say that partition is better than power sharing?


It was posted here a while back Gregory....Can't remember by whom??


I see. Any chance of re-posting it because your claim sounds quite preposterous to me.



We started off by being polite to each other Gregory but this is the second time you have been condescending. The first by asking my age in the manner that you did. I have given up trying to prove what I say over and over again. If you are really interested then you will endeavor to find anything on it yourself....If not, then I said it anyway. If my memory serves me right, it was a GC that posted it. :?


Now if you want to give examples of the blacks in SA standing up for their rights then allow me the same privilege!!


This is what you posted to someone in another thread today and I'll ask the same from you.
Take a moment to sort it out in your own head and stop waiting for us to do all the hard work for you


You made a ridiculous quote regarding the former President of Cyprus and I claim that such rubbish cannot be written here without proof. In the same manner I can say that Ecevit had said

" Our sole aim was to wipe as many of those gavours off the face of this earth in 74. Its a shame we were forced to stop just when the concentration camps were passing through their ISO tests."

Now I won't even if I think its was posted here a while back by someone I can't remember.

Retract the statement or prove it. I've called you on it and I don't like people misquoting for their own feeble arguments.

Apologies if this is getting personal but its a pet peeve of mine.

Gregory, what do you suppose, TPapa wanted to speak to Dengtash Jnr about when he tried to meet him secretly?

Was it about unification?

Or would you like a link to prove that he wanted to speak with him?


I'm quite aware as the whole island is that they met to speak during the vote.

Zan had said however
Tpap discussed that partition would be better than power sharing


which is an entirely different thing.

The clue is in who he chose to speak to. You will not find what they discussed, but you can have a very good idea from the choice he made. Wasn't TPapa who said it was because their planets were aligned? What more do you need?
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Postby Gregory » Tue Oct 20, 2009 5:56 am

YFred wrote:
Gregory wrote:
YFred wrote:
Gregory wrote:
zan wrote:
Gregory wrote:
zan wrote:
Gregory wrote:
zan wrote:
Nikitas wrote:So we are to assume that Davoutoglou is threatening with annexation of the occupied territories?

Have the TCs been told about this and have they agreed? Davoutoglou might have a big surprise when he tells them.



Just like Tpap discussed that partition would be better than power sharing then we can assume that others might discuss the possibility of a NO SOLUTION strategy. We are not just going to sit around for another 40 years Nikitas. Annexation is not a new theory!!!


When exaclty did the President of this Republic say that partition is better than power sharing?


It was posted here a while back Gregory....Can't remember by whom??


I see. Any chance of re-posting it because your claim sounds quite preposterous to me.



We started off by being polite to each other Gregory but this is the second time you have been condescending. The first by asking my age in the manner that you did. I have given up trying to prove what I say over and over again. If you are really interested then you will endeavor to find anything on it yourself....If not, then I said it anyway. If my memory serves me right, it was a GC that posted it. :?


Now if you want to give examples of the blacks in SA standing up for their rights then allow me the same privilege!!


This is what you posted to someone in another thread today and I'll ask the same from you.
Take a moment to sort it out in your own head and stop waiting for us to do all the hard work for you


You made a ridiculous quote regarding the former President of Cyprus and I claim that such rubbish cannot be written here without proof. In the same manner I can say that Ecevit had said

" Our sole aim was to wipe as many of those gavours off the face of this earth in 74. Its a shame we were forced to stop just when the concentration camps were passing through their ISO tests."

Now I won't even if I think its was posted here a while back by someone I can't remember.

Retract the statement or prove it. I've called you on it and I don't like people misquoting for their own feeble arguments.

Apologies if this is getting personal but its a pet peeve of mine.

Gregory, what do you suppose, TPapa wanted to speak to Dengtash Jnr about when he tried to meet him secretly?

Was it about unification?

Or would you like a link to prove that he wanted to speak with him?


I'm quite aware as the whole island is that they met to speak during the vote.

Zan had said however
Tpap discussed that partition would be better than power sharing


which is an entirely different thing.

The clue is in who he chose to speak to. You will not find what they discussed, but you can have a very good idea from the choice he made. Wasn't TPapa who said it was because their planets were aligned? What more do you need?


Actually no. He didn't say that either. What is it with people and making things up? How does Zan know that President Papadopoulos said partition is better thaqn power sharing in that meeting with enough confidence so as to post it on a public forum to backup one of his arguments?
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Postby zan » Tue Oct 20, 2009 9:20 am

Gregory wrote:
YFred wrote:
Gregory wrote:
YFred wrote:
Gregory wrote:
zan wrote:
Gregory wrote:
zan wrote:
Gregory wrote:
zan wrote:
Nikitas wrote:So we are to assume that Davoutoglou is threatening with annexation of the occupied territories?

Have the TCs been told about this and have they agreed? Davoutoglou might have a big surprise when he tells them.



Just like Tpap discussed that partition would be better than power sharing then we can assume that others might discuss the possibility of a NO SOLUTION strategy. We are not just going to sit around for another 40 years Nikitas. Annexation is not a new theory!!!


When exaclty did the President of this Republic say that partition is better than power sharing?


It was posted here a while back Gregory....Can't remember by whom??


I see. Any chance of re-posting it because your claim sounds quite preposterous to me.



We started off by being polite to each other Gregory but this is the second time you have been condescending. The first by asking my age in the manner that you did. I have given up trying to prove what I say over and over again. If you are really interested then you will endeavor to find anything on it yourself....If not, then I said it anyway. If my memory serves me right, it was a GC that posted it. :?


Now if you want to give examples of the blacks in SA standing up for their rights then allow me the same privilege!!


This is what you posted to someone in another thread today and I'll ask the same from you.
Take a moment to sort it out in your own head and stop waiting for us to do all the hard work for you


You made a ridiculous quote regarding the former President of Cyprus and I claim that such rubbish cannot be written here without proof. In the same manner I can say that Ecevit had said

" Our sole aim was to wipe as many of those gavours off the face of this earth in 74. Its a shame we were forced to stop just when the concentration camps were passing through their ISO tests."

Now I won't even if I think its was posted here a while back by someone I can't remember.

Retract the statement or prove it. I've called you on it and I don't like people misquoting for their own feeble arguments.

Apologies if this is getting personal but its a pet peeve of mine.

Gregory, what do you suppose, TPapa wanted to speak to Dengtash Jnr about when he tried to meet him secretly?

Was it about unification?

Or would you like a link to prove that he wanted to speak with him?


I'm quite aware as the whole island is that they met to speak during the vote.

Zan had said however
Tpap discussed that partition would be better than power sharing


which is an entirely different thing.

The clue is in who he chose to speak to. You will not find what they discussed, but you can have a very good idea from the choice he made. Wasn't TPapa who said it was because their planets were aligned? What more do you need?


Actually no. He didn't say that either. What is it with people and making things up? How does Zan know that President Papadopoulos said partition is better thaqn power sharing in that meeting with enough confidence so as to post it on a public forum to backup one of his arguments?


I really haven't got time to sort this out properly this morning Gregory but first of all my relationship with other forumers which I have a history with for over three years has got nothing to do with you and you should be concentrating on how I talked to you and you alone. The other is that I have told you that the post was made by a GC to show Tpaps stance against power sharing......If you want to take the statement much more than that then that is your problem. You could have googled it a hundred times by now but you insist on attacking me instead. I did not say it TPap did. You have set the tone now. Well done. You can't say I didn't try with you. :roll:
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Postby zan » Tue Oct 20, 2009 9:29 am

Oracle wrote:
zan wrote:
Gregory wrote:
zan wrote:
Gregory wrote:
zan wrote:
Nikitas wrote:So we are to assume that Davoutoglou is threatening with annexation of the occupied territories?

Have the TCs been told about this and have they agreed? Davoutoglou might have a big surprise when he tells them.



Just like Tpap discussed that partition would be better than power sharing then we can assume that others might discuss the possibility of a NO SOLUTION strategy. We are not just going to sit around for another 40 years Nikitas. Annexation is not a new theory!!!


When exaclty did the President of this Republic say that partition is better than power sharing?


It was posted here a while back Gregory....Can't remember by whom??


I see. Any chance of re-posting it because your claim sounds quite preposterous to me.



We started off by being polite to each other Gregory but this is the second time you have been condescending. The first by asking my age in the manner that you did. I have given up trying to prove what I say over and over again. If you are really interested then you will endeavor to find anything on it yourself....If not, then I said it anyway. If my memory serves me right, it was a GC that posted it. :?


Now if you want to give examples of the blacks in SA standing up for their rights then allow me the same privilege!!


Righteous indignation now, huh Zan? :lol:

Picked yourself up after last week's blunder with your ignorance on Apartheid and South Africa ... :lol:



I mean look at this silly bitch :lol: The taste of blood in her mouth is sending her into a frenzy.....

Don't live your life with revenge as your main weapon Oracle.....Your PROFESSIONAL presence on this Forum will suffer.....I am disappointed in you agent O.....And I don't even get paid for doing this unlike you>>>> :roll:

Ever been to SA???....Maybe even with Greg??? :wink: :lol:
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Postby Oracle » Tue Oct 20, 2009 9:45 am

zan wrote:
Oracle wrote:
zan wrote:
Gregory wrote:
zan wrote:
Gregory wrote:
zan wrote:
Nikitas wrote:So we are to assume that Davoutoglou is threatening with annexation of the occupied territories?

Have the TCs been told about this and have they agreed? Davoutoglou might have a big surprise when he tells them.



Just like Tpap discussed that partition would be better than power sharing then we can assume that others might discuss the possibility of a NO SOLUTION strategy. We are not just going to sit around for another 40 years Nikitas. Annexation is not a new theory!!!


When exaclty did the President of this Republic say that partition is better than power sharing?


It was posted here a while back Gregory....Can't remember by whom??


I see. Any chance of re-posting it because your claim sounds quite preposterous to me.



We started off by being polite to each other Gregory but this is the second time you have been condescending. The first by asking my age in the manner that you did. I have given up trying to prove what I say over and over again. If you are really interested then you will endeavor to find anything on it yourself....If not, then I said it anyway. If my memory serves me right, it was a GC that posted it. :?


Now if you want to give examples of the blacks in SA standing up for their rights then allow me the same privilege!!


Righteous indignation now, huh Zan? :lol:

Picked yourself up after last week's blunder with your ignorance on Apartheid and South Africa ... :lol:



I mean look at this silly bitch :lol: The taste of blood in her mouth is sending her into a frenzy.....

Don't live your life with revenge as your main weapon Oracle.....Your PROFESSIONAL presence on this Forum will suffer.....I am disappointed in you agent O.....And I don't even get paid for doing this unlike you>>>> :roll:

Ever been to SA???....Maybe even with Greg??? :wink: :lol:


Call it desperation or maybe it's pathological .... but you and YFred are notorious for making stuff up. Most people are here to debate common issues, not listen to your lies.

If you call our seeking Justice as "revenge", that is a reflection of your criminal mentality.
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