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Postby Lit » Thu Oct 22, 2009 4:39 pm

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Enough for now ;) And by the way, everything I said above is taught not just in Greek schools, but also in all major universities of the world.


GR is a rebel...he doesn't have time for universities. During his youth, he went to Bradford's nurse and technical school where he learned a thing or two about how to start a computer and how to give mouth to mouth resuscitation. He thought it was the only way to learn and to finally score with an English woman. Little did he know that he was going to give mouth to mouth to a training dummy. After graduating with a diploma in "Technology & Nursing", he bought a "compewter", started it like Bradford showed him and learned his history by browsing the youtubes.

Lets give it to GR!
He may not know history but he knows how to format a floppy diskette and suck on dummies.


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Postby Get Real! » Thu Oct 22, 2009 7:21 pm

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Piratis wrote:The Mycenaeans were as aboriginal as any of the other first people to settle in Cyprus.

Piratis, takes mythology to new heights!

Not only does he not care that his whole theory hangs by a narrative (a manufactured story) but now he is even claiming that the mythological arrival of Greeks is an indigenous one!!! :?

Think of the repercussions of such a statement… the island of Cyprus was empty so everything before that never took place, effectively making Cypriots TOTALLY non-existent!

That’s what I call a Cypriot patriot! :lol:


ROTFLMAO! Lets all be like GR! the wacky so called Cherickidian and proclaim that modern humans originated in Cyprus oh about 200,000 years ago. Ya?! From Cyprus we went on to colonize the world!!

what a box head :wink:

Hey, doe-doe head think M35...

Because the origin of European man is…

Ethiopia/Eritrea > Egypt/Lebanon/Syria > Cyprus

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Postby Omer Seyhan » Sun Oct 25, 2009 7:39 pm

I'm ashamed to say that Turkish Cypriots serving Turkey are doing more to destroy Turkish Cypriot cultural identity than Nicos Sampson and his followers ever did.
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Postby Omer Seyhan » Sun Oct 25, 2009 7:39 pm

The 'saviour' has become the oppressor...
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Postby YFred » Sun Oct 25, 2009 7:45 pm

Omer Seyhan wrote:The 'saviour' has become the oppressor...

Inonu jnr said that. We will save you from the greeks but who will save you from us?

At least we are not being starved depending on UN help and we are not being killed Omer. We must be thankful for small mercies. If at some point the roc pulls its finger out and signs the peace deal, we will all be better off.

In the mean time the old saying goes “better the devil you know then the devil you don’t know.
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Postby insan » Sun Oct 25, 2009 7:53 pm

Omer Seyhan wrote:I'm ashamed to say that Turkish Cypriots serving Turkey are doing more to destroy Turkish Cypriot cultural identity than Nicos Sampson and his followers ever did.


So u immeadiately believed that TC dialect was banned being spoken by radio and TV stations in TRNC? Don't believe the hype. Turkey did no harm to TC cultural idendity. The isolations do harm on every aspect of TC life... and we know who r happy abt mass emigration of TCs... they whisper each other that when no TCs remain in TRNC they would argue that Turkey has no right to station troops in TRNC. :lol: In 45 years time, TCs had to balance it's economy and population growth by leting migration from Anatolia, Bulgaria etc in perfect correlation with TC emigration. Though I agree that if our politicians had been less corrupt, TRNC would have been far more developed and wealthy... most probably at least half of the emigrated TCs would have never emigrated or returned to TRNC. There r 2 big threats on TC community: One of them is Greek-GC ruling class and the other one is our own ruling class; but Turkey constitutes no threat against TCs.
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Postby Omer Seyhan » Sun Oct 25, 2009 7:57 pm

YFred wrote:
Omer Seyhan wrote:The 'saviour' has become the oppressor...

Inonu jnr said that. We will save you from the greeks but who will save you from us?

At least we are not being starved depending on UN help and we are not being killed Omer. We must be thankful for small mercies. If at some point the roc pulls its finger out and signs the peace deal, we will all be better off.

In the mean time the old saying goes “better the devil you know then the devil you don’t know.


I agree the Republic has a long way to go, you only have to read Oracle to see that. The Republic is not doing enough for sure.

But we should still criticise Turkey as well as the ROC openly. If T/Cs stop criticising Turkey's actions then it means we are happy. You need to sometimes make your yourself heard and understood even to your 'saviour' otherwise they walk all over you and you become weak and useless and hopeless...
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Postby YFred » Sun Oct 25, 2009 8:03 pm

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Omer Seyhan wrote:The 'saviour' has become the oppressor...

Inonu jnr said that. We will save you from the greeks but who will save you from us?

At least we are not being starved depending on UN help and we are not being killed Omer. We must be thankful for small mercies. If at some point the roc pulls its finger out and signs the peace deal, we will all be better off.

In the mean time the old saying goes “better the devil you know then the devil you don’t know.


I agree the Republic has a long way to go, you only have to read Oracle to see that. The Republic is not doing enough for sure.

But we should still criticise Turkey as well as the ROC openly. If T/Cs stop criticising Turkey's actions then it means we are happy. You need to sometimes make your yourself heard and understood even to your 'saviour' otherwise they walk all over you and you become weak and useless and hopeless...

It is not easy to criticise Turkey after they backed us financially and militarily to their loss. They put food in people's mouths too.
In the true Monty Python style, "What has the roc done for us lately?"
Judging by some other forumers wish to kill us like maggots, I would vote for the 2 divisions to remain in perpetuity until the roc can control its vicious thugs.
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Postby Omer Seyhan » Sun Oct 25, 2009 8:23 pm

insan wrote:
Omer Seyhan wrote:I'm ashamed to say that Turkish Cypriots serving Turkey are doing more to destroy Turkish Cypriot cultural identity than Nicos Sampson and his followers ever did.


So u immeadiately believed that TC dialect was banned being spoken by radio and TV stations in TRNC? Don't believe the hype. Turkey did no harm to TC cultural idendity. The isolations do harm on every aspect of TC life... and we know who r happy abt mass emigration of TCs... they whisper each other that when no TCs remain in TRNC they would argue that Turkey has no right to station troops in TRNC. :lol: In 45 years time, TCs had to balance it's economy and population growth by leting migration from Anatolia, Bulgaria etc in perfect correlation with TC emigration. Though I agree that if our politicians had been less corrupt, TRNC would have been far more developed and wealthy... most probably at least half of the emigrated TCs would have never emigrated or returned to TRNC. There r 2 big threats on TC community: One of them is Greek-GC ruling class and the other one is our own ruling class; but Turkey constitutes no threat against TCs.


1. Who does the TRNC Broadcasting Authority take its orders from? And who do they take their orders from?

2. I agree with you about isolation needing to end and that some more nationalist G/Cs may well be happy when all T/Cs are gone. But dont forget, the G/Cc did not impose isolation. It was the UN (1983) and ECJ (1996). The only way out is a solution, nothing else.

3. Yes, G/Cs can well argue at any point that the Cyprus issue has become a RoC - Turkey issue with or without settlers. They may ask that both states resolve it amongst at themselves as both are recognised states. And if Turkeys ever needed a quick solution it could easily without much hesitation drop the T/Cs like a rock.
In some respects I wish they would. Why? Because then some people in my community might wake up and realise that in International Relations there is no 'motherland' or 'babyhomeland' - it is everyone for themselves.
T/Cs who have been fed lies that they were saved and believe those lies are being taking for a ride. Turkey wants a base in Cyprus like the UK has and has its own national interests. They don't care about T/Cs. So T/Cs should try to be more independent in their approach and not suck up to Turkey out of a false feeling of gratitude.

4. Settlers were not moved in for political reasons in particular in helping Turkey maintain control over its military base which is called TRNC. There are poor areas throughout Anatolia where settlers are not shipped in to improve the economy so why Cyprus?

But Turkey's base is an expensive military base (to protect her southern flanks) and Turkey does not trust the T/Cs to look after it, which is why settlers (mostly nationalist ones were shipped in) and which is why Turkey does not pursue TRNC recognition, which Turkey could have achieved in 36 years. It kept its options open for decades but now wants a solution so that it can reduce its base size to a specific area with access to the sea and join the EU.

There is one big threat to the T/C community. It is the servants of Turkey within the community who put Turkey's interests first before their community's interests. Look at the Koran classes which T/Cs oppose and which AKP wants to transport to Cyprus... Look at the queue of citizens which the Turkish Embassy are telling us to naturalise... Look at the Dialect that we can no longer use on Tv! Look at the way Talat and Eroglu behave like Jekyll and Hyde...

You can be 'grateful' if you feel you need to be Insan. I dont mind what opinion you may have but please be alert about what Turkish Cypriots themselves want and not what Ankara wants. Dont sell out your community - I've seen it happen too often.

So far nobody can distinguish Turkish / Turkish Cypriot interests... I ask, and I want a reply, why is that? Are the same? Are they 100% identical? or is one party having to give way to a more dominant side? What ever happened to our community's political will? Does it not mean anything anymore?

Perhaps we should move to Britain and elsewhere...
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Postby Omer Seyhan » Sun Oct 25, 2009 8:30 pm

YFred wrote:
Omer Seyhan wrote:
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Omer Seyhan wrote:The 'saviour' has become the oppressor...

Inonu jnr said that. We will save you from the greeks but who will save you from us?

At least we are not being starved depending on UN help and we are not being killed Omer. We must be thankful for small mercies. If at some point the roc pulls its finger out and signs the peace deal, we will all be better off.

In the mean time the old saying goes “better the devil you know then the devil you don’t know.


I agree the Republic has a long way to go, you only have to read Oracle to see that. The Republic is not doing enough for sure.

But we should still criticise Turkey as well as the ROC openly. If T/Cs stop criticising Turkey's actions then it means we are happy. You need to sometimes make your yourself heard and understood even to your 'saviour' otherwise they walk all over you and you become weak and useless and hopeless...

It is not easy to criticise Turkey after they backed us financially and militarily to their loss. They put food in people's mouths too.
In the true Monty Python style, "What has the roc done for us lately?"
Judging by some other forumers wish to kill us like maggots, I would vote for the 2 divisions to remain in perpetuity until the roc can control its vicious thugs.


Ok so because of a minority of extremist G/Cs who post here saying insulting things about T/Cs and who believe Cyprus is Greek and that we are a worthless minority, because of their opinion you are going to swing 180 degrees in the other direction and become an Anatolian. Is this what you are saying? Come on please...

You know Cyprus (the south) is not Greek - it has so many immigrants. And a reunited Cyprus in the EU (as well as ensuring security for our children) will never be like the Cyprus of Nicos Sampson. Besides, what is being negotiated is a bi-communal federation where T/Cs will govern themselves in the north in the real sense of governing themselves not in the false sense. Isnt this better than living in an isolated unrecognised state that is controlled by Ankara and where settlers are turning us into a minority?
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