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Protection of Kyrenia (Girne) Mountaines.

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Postby bill cobbett » Sun Oct 18, 2009 3:05 pm

halil wrote:TC are not stopping from protecting where they are living in these days .


The Kyrenia Mountain Trail has been adopted by the EU funded Natura 2000 project which has designated six areas for inclusion in the scheme. The areas will be linked by the KMT. Natura 2000 will introduce a standardised way marking system which will be used on the walks to be created in the six designated areas. Over time the walks and trails in each area will be mapped and available on this site.

http://www.kyreniamountaintrail.org/walking.htm

I know above link will upset u agin Billy willy boy but u wanted .Till u learn not to add politics upto every thing u will get same response.


If others and I wish to walk the Kyrenia Mountains mate as Free Citizens of the World we will do so soon, without the need for Tnucland's propagandist trails and maps and with no need for your scammy permissions,.
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Postby bill cobbett » Sun Oct 18, 2009 3:07 pm

Sorry ... forgot to add...
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Postby halil » Sun Oct 18, 2009 3:22 pm

today was last day of the 4th Buyukkonuk Eco Day activities. I missed it.

may be next year .
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Postby BOF » Sun Oct 18, 2009 4:15 pm

By all means berate the Turks of Cyprus for destruction of the natural environment in the occupied territories...

But I dont think the ROC has too much to shout about regarding Natura 2000.sites.
living in harmony with nature oracle?I dont think so!
For those not actually living in Cyprus.
The akamas area (supposed natura 2000 site) is the centre of a squabble as those owning land around want to build on it -and they want the size reduced. areas are regularly set on fire deliberately.
Turtles trying to nest at Akrotiri are getting caught in fishermans nets just off the shore - several have been washed up with spikes driven through their heads.
The marshes nr Voroklini a migration site (supposed natura 2000 site) are now mainly home to a fixed area market thats jam packed on a Sunday.
The marsh area (supposed natura 2000 site) outside Paralimni last home of the Cyprus grass snake is now a building site with the making of a huge roundabout.
How many Natura 2000 sites have been officially declared by the government in the south - any?

We should be leading by example as the Europeans we like to think we are....
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Postby Oracle » Sun Oct 18, 2009 4:34 pm

By the same token BOF ... it was "acceptable" to all and sundry when the Brits had the Akamas dotted with land mines and bombed out crevices ... enough to make it bereft of the natural dwellers, for over 50 years!

And what about the communications devices the Brits have erected all over the place?

Neither the Brits nor the Turks can be excused by making any comparisons to how the RoC runs its own country because the crime of illegally invading someone else's territory, PURELY to exploit it, is morally and ethically wrong, as well as destructive.

When the Brits and Turks have finally left the RoC alone it can begin to concentrate more on house-keeping, instead of having to defend and protect itself and its assets from all these invaders!
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Postby Pax » Sun Oct 18, 2009 5:46 pm

bill cobbett wrote:
No mate.

Forests will naturally recover from fires; re-seeding and re-establishing themselves, as they do in the Free Areas of the Troodos. What you see in the Kyrenia Mountains, where you are lucky to see a single tree, is deliberate destruction by the Turkish Army.


Bill Cobbett - I've just spent the afternoon walking in the Pentadaktylos/Besparmak, including as they run behind Kyrenia. I can assure you that there are tens of thousands of trees. Wherever do you get the idea that you'd be "lucky to see a single tree" ?

I agree that the quarrying is an environmental disaster (You should see what has happened to parts of Derbyshire or Dorset !) but acceleration of stone quarrying for export to Turkey is a direct function of economic isolation. If the country can only export through Turkey and it only has limited export capacity, and one of them is in stone, it is hardly surprising that stone will be exported.

There is absolutely no evidence that the Turkish army deliberately sets fire to forests. Yes such a story feeds well into the anti-Turkey propaganda machine but it is basically bollocks. Of what possible use to Turkey would setting forests alight be ? I'd have thought we're well past the "GCs/TCs ate my baby" stage of history.
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Postby zan » Sun Oct 18, 2009 6:22 pm

Oracle wrote:By the same token BOF ... it was "acceptable" to all and sundry when the Brits had the Akamas dotted with land mines and bombed out crevices ... enough to make it bereft of the natural dwellers, for over 50 years!

And what about the communications devices the Brits have erected all over the place?

Neither the Brits nor the Turks can be excused by making any comparisons to how the RoC runs its own country because the crime of illegally invading someone else's territory, PURELY to exploit it, is morally and ethically wrong, as well as destructive.

When the Brits and Turks have finally left the RoC alone it can begin to concentrate more on house-keeping, instead of having to defend and protect itself and its assets from all these invaders!



A supposed cash rich country blaming the Turks for all its woes....How about you personally taking these GC land owners to the EU courts that set their land on fire so they can build on it?? The so called FREE arrears have all the protection they need so go for it!!! :roll:
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Postby zan » Sun Oct 18, 2009 6:27 pm

Pax wrote:
bill cobbett wrote:
No mate.

Forests will naturally recover from fires; re-seeding and re-establishing themselves, as they do in the Free Areas of the Troodos. What you see in the Kyrenia Mountains, where you are lucky to see a single tree, is deliberate destruction by the Turkish Army.


Bill Cobbett - I've just spent the afternoon walking in the Pentadaktylos/Besparmak, including as they run behind Kyrenia. I can assure you that there are tens of thousands of trees. Wherever do you get the idea that you'd be "lucky to see a single tree" ?

I agree that the quarrying is an environmental disaster (You should see what has happened to parts of Derbyshire or Dorset !) but acceleration of stone quarrying for export to Turkey is a direct function of economic isolation. If the country can only export through Turkey and it only has limited export capacity, and one of them is in stone, it is hardly surprising that stone will be exported.

There is absolutely no evidence that the Turkish army deliberately sets fire to forests. Yes such a story feeds well into the anti-Turkey propaganda machine but it is basically bollocks. Of what possible use to Turkey would setting forests alight be ? I'd have thought we're well past the "GCs/TCs ate my baby" stage of history.



I am afraid that Billy boy Bobbit doesn't open his mouth much except to spread propaganda........He onmce accused me of being a liar because I said I had a sister :roll: :lol:
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Postby bill cobbett » Sun Oct 18, 2009 6:56 pm

Pax wrote:
bill cobbett wrote:
No mate.

Forests will naturally recover from fires; re-seeding and re-establishing themselves, as they do in the Free Areas of the Troodos. What you see in the Kyrenia Mountains, where you are lucky to see a single tree, is deliberate destruction by the Turkish Army.


Bill Cobbett - I've just spent the afternoon walking in the Pentadaktylos/Besparmak, including as they run behind Kyrenia. I can assure you that there are tens of thousands of trees. Wherever do you get the idea that you'd be "lucky to see a single tree" ?

I agree that the quarrying is an environmental disaster (You should see what has happened to parts of Derbyshire or Dorset !) but acceleration of stone quarrying for export to Turkey is a direct function of economic isolation. If the country can only export through Turkey and it only has limited export capacity, and one of them is in stone, it is hardly surprising that stone will be exported.

There is absolutely no evidence that the Turkish army deliberately sets fire to forests. Yes such a story feeds well into the anti-Turkey propaganda machine but it is basically bollocks. Of what possible use to Turkey would setting forests alight be ? I'd have thought we're well past the "GCs/TCs ate my baby" stage of history.


My Dear Pax,

Very pleased to hear of your afternoon well spent in what is left of the Northern Mountains.

I do not know Derbyshire terribly well but must thank you for the opportunity to say that I know Dorset very well indeed and am able to tell you that the relatively small scale quarrying for the much prized Purbeck Marble in this latter county of GB is one with strict environmental controls and whose use as a local building material in the built environment can be seen in some of the most attractive, post-card picture villages of Englsh Villages in such places as Corfe and the Matravers. Much the same can be said of the situation on Portland, again in DorsetGB, and another placeI have visited many, many times, whose stone has been used in some of the most notable buildings here in London.

So these are Enhancements to our much-cherished GB Countryside. The same, and I think that you would agree, can't be said of the plain and simple exploitation and get rich quick with a few back-handers, under the table, to the Usual Suspect Big-Wig Thieves in the Illegal Regime in Tnucland

As to my allegations regarding the Turkish Army of Occupation's habit of deliberate deforestation, I can only suggest that we see this as maintaining lines of sight and denying the CY NG Liberation Army defensive cover in the passes.
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Postby halil » Sun Oct 18, 2009 7:28 pm

Dear friends ..... u can hear lots of lies about us ...... Very recently ones about TC dialect too .... it easy to listen TC dialect song Opecem seni (I will kiss u)from
www.brtk.net
just click on '' on line broadcast'' from BRT1 TV
select the program top 10 KKTC .

Top10 is on wednesdays/Thursdays at 14:00 friday !0:30 with Cyprus local time.

Also u can listen and watch Abohor Zeybeği ............
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