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[-mikkie2-]

"However, in terms of their duties on land I do not think that they would need heavy miltary hardware (tanks,artllery,APC's etc) in order to maintain law and order."

Its not a question of maintaining law and order but a question of protecting the sovereignty of Cyprus. We would not need heavy military hardware but a small, mobile and effective military working under the NATO umbrella.

[Cypriot Nick]

"However, in terms of their duties on land I do not think that they would need heavy miltary hardware (tanks,artllery,APC's etc) in order to maintain law and order."

Its not a question of maintaining law and order but a question of protecting the sovereignty of Cyprus. We would not need heavy military hardware but a small, mobile and effective military working under the NATO umbrella.

I take your point. But I pose this then - If the Cyprus problem is solved who do we need to protect our sovereignity against beyond what a police force cannot do?

Personally, I do not see any benefit to Cyprus joining NATO but would rather advocate integration into a future EU force (if we were to retain some form of military force).

[Cypriot Nick]

Actually, I think we may be referring to the same concept but with differing semantics. If the force does not have any heavy military hardware I could go along with that. So ok, I agree. But not to NATO though.

[YFred]

Karpasia can be reached by sea.

Lefka is a problem, but can be solved. As we will let go Kyrenia, a much more significant part than Lefka, then the TCs can let go of Lefka. This does not mean that the inhabitants will be kicked out, just that they will live under GC administration. There will be many pockets of the "other" community in each sector.

With the passage of time the population will move and the monoethnic composition of each side will diminish. But the biregional character will remain and that is why it is vital to prevent any dispute on that issue from arising in the future.

What is wrong with the Karpasians crossing to the south by road. They should have a choice. I hope it never gets to the stage that they feel unsafe to cross TC territory to go to the south.
You talk about Girne and Lefke, but ignore that you've got Limasol and Larnaka? You will not be offered Lefke or Limnidi. The south side of the main road between Omorfo and Magusa does not include them.

[YFred]

"However, in terms of their duties on land I do not think that they would need heavy miltary hardware (tanks,artllery,APC's etc) in order to maintain law and order."

Its not a question of maintaining law and order but a question of protecting the sovereignty of Cyprus. We would not need heavy military hardware but a small, mobile and effective military working under the NATO umbrella.

I take your point. But I pose this then - If the Cyprus problem is solved who do we need to protect our sovereignity against beyond what a police force cannot do?

Personally, I do not see any benefit to Cyprus joining NATO but would rather advocate integration into a future EU force (if we were to retain some form of military force).

Cyprus within EU does not need any military. Just a police force will suffice.

[Gregory]

"However, in terms of their duties on land I do not think that they would need heavy miltary hardware (tanks,artllery,APC's etc) in order to maintain law and order."

Its not a question of maintaining law and order but a question of protecting the sovereignty of Cyprus. We would not need heavy military hardware but a small, mobile and effective military working under the NATO umbrella.

I take your point. But I pose this then - If the Cyprus problem is solved who do we need to protect our sovereignity against beyond what a police force cannot do?

Personally, I do not see any benefit to Cyprus joining NATO but would rather advocate integration into a future EU force (if we were to retain some form of military force).

Cyprus within EU does not need any military. Just a police force will suffice.

You obviously feel secure within the EU. Why then do you require guarantees?

[YFred]

"However, in terms of their duties on land I do not think that they would need heavy miltary hardware (tanks,artllery,APC's etc) in order to maintain law and order."

Its not a question of maintaining law and order but a question of protecting the sovereignty of Cyprus. We would not need heavy military hardware but a small, mobile and effective military working under the NATO umbrella.

I take your point. But I pose this then - If the Cyprus problem is solved who do we need to protect our sovereignity against beyond what a police force cannot do?

Personally, I do not see any benefit to Cyprus joining NATO but would rather advocate integration into a future EU force (if we were to retain some form of military force).

Cyprus within EU does not need any military. Just a police force will suffice.

You obviously feel secure within the EU. Why then do you require guarantees?

Gregory, you have a house, why do you insure it? What is the chance it will burn down? I have been paying this insurance for 30 years, should I cancel it?

You will find that 99% of TCs will not vote for peace without a guarantee.

[Cypriot Nick]

"However, in terms of their duties on land I do not think that they would need heavy miltary hardware (tanks,artllery,APC's etc) in order to maintain law and order."

Its not a question of maintaining law and order but a question of protecting the sovereignty of Cyprus. We would not need heavy military hardware but a small, mobile and effective military working under the NATO umbrella.

I take your point. But I pose this then - If the Cyprus problem is solved who do we need to protect our sovereignity against beyond what a police force cannot do?

Personally, I do not see any benefit to Cyprus joining NATO but would rather advocate integration into a future EU force (if we were to retain some form of military force).

Cyprus within EU does not need any military. Just a police force will suffice.

Agreed. The EU is my insurance thanks.

[Gregory]

"However, in terms of their duties on land I do not think that they would need heavy miltary hardware (tanks,artllery,APC's etc) in order to maintain law and order."

Its not a question of maintaining law and order but a question of protecting the sovereignty of Cyprus. We would not need heavy military hardware but a small, mobile and effective military working under the NATO umbrella.

I take your point. But I pose this then - If the Cyprus problem is solved who do we need to protect our sovereignity against beyond what a police force cannot do?

Personally, I do not see any benefit to Cyprus joining NATO but would rather advocate integration into a future EU force (if we were to retain some form of military force).

Cyprus within EU does not need any military. Just a police force will suffice.

You obviously feel secure within the EU. Why then do you require guarantees?

Gregory, you have a house, why do you insure it? What is the chance it will burn down? I have been paying this insurance for 30 years, should I cancel it?

You will find that 99% of TCs will not vote for peace without a guarantee.

So you feel fine leaving the fate of the entire island to the EU mechanism of security but feel that your small community warrants the direct involvement of a foreign power in the sovereign state of Cyprus.

Your insurance theory is simply a joke since your insurance company happens to be presently squatting in the property.

[Cypriot Nick]

"However, in terms of their duties on land I do not think that they would need heavy miltary hardware (tanks,artllery,APC's etc) in order to maintain law and order."

Its not a question of maintaining law and order but a question of protecting the sovereignty of Cyprus. We would not need heavy military hardware but a small, mobile and effective military working under the NATO umbrella.

I take your point. But I pose this then - If the Cyprus problem is solved who do we need to protect our sovereignity against beyond what a police force cannot do?

Personally, I do not see any benefit to Cyprus joining NATO but would rather advocate integration into a future EU force (if we were to retain some form of military force).

Cyprus within EU does not need any military. Just a police force will suffice.

You obviously feel secure within the EU. Why then do you require guarantees?

Gregory, you have a house, why do you insure it? What is the chance it will burn down? I have been paying this insurance for 30 years, should I cancel it?

You will find that 99% of TCs will not vote for peace without a guarantee.

So you feel fine leaving the fate of the entire island to the EU mechanism of security but feel that your small community warrants the direct involvement of a foreign power in the sovereign state of Cyprus.

Your insurance theory is simply a joke since your insurance company happens to be presently squatting in the property.

If I have to be objective I must say that Gregory has proven the point here.