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Re: Makarios Droushiotis supports cross voting system

Postby Get Real! » Wed Oct 21, 2009 11:12 pm

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Paphitis wrote:Downer's involvement in Hakluyt & Co is not the issue. Bespoke Approach is a very similar type of business...

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Read it and weep sunshine...

http://www.bespokeapproach.com/

:roll: This is what you should be reading you nincompoop!


Hakluyt & Co spy-work for Shell and BP

“THE UN Secretary-General’s special envoy Alexander Downer, reported Offsite, is a director of an intelligence gathering firm, Hakluyt & Co, which was set up in 1995 by two former MI6 agents. The company, according to Offsite, sells information to companies, regarding government decisions and plans; in the past it had been passing information to Shell and BP about the activities of Greenpeace.”

http://royaldutchshellplc.com/2008/11/1 ... ll-and-bp/
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Re: Makarios Droushiotis supports cross voting system

Postby Paphitis » Thu Oct 22, 2009 3:26 am

Get Real! wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
Paphitis wrote:Downer's involvement in Hakluyt & Co is not the issue. Bespoke Approach is a very similar type of business...

:shock: :? Image


Read it and weep sunshine...

http://www.bespokeapproach.com/

:roll: This is what you should be reading you nincompoop!


Hakluyt & Co spy-work for Shell and BP

“THE UN Secretary-General’s special envoy Alexander Downer, reported Offsite, is a director of an intelligence gathering firm, Hakluyt & Co, which was set up in 1995 by two former MI6 agents. The company, according to Offsite, sells information to companies, regarding government decisions and plans; in the past it had been passing information to Shell and BP about the activities of Greenpeace.”

http://royaldutchshellplc.com/2008/11/1 ... ll-and-bp/


The above is far too over sensationalized because as I told you before, Bespoke Approach is a very similar organization which employs some very high profile Australian Politicians and diplomats. But they do not "sell" Government secrets, but harness their world wide knowledge and expertise to achieve positive outcomes for their clients.

Once again, this is what Bespoke Approach do according to their website:

* Discreet personal counsel for companies anywhere in the world;
* Context setting for governments and their agencies; and
* Pro-bono assistance to specific areas of interest in the not-for-profit sector.

Furthermore, Bespoke Approach is a registered Lobbying organization so that it could try to influence Governments for various businesses and nations that may be their clients. It is a very clever business, because as you know, Bespoke Approach has massive contacts withing the Australian Government, US administration, UK plus more.

So if Rupert Murdoch wants to apply pressure on the Australian Government regarding media ownership laws in Australia, all he has to do is employ Alexander Downer or Nick Bolkus to do his ground work, and he probably already has. The same can be said about Defence companies who are vying for Defence contracts, tobacco companies, Oil and Gas companies etc etc.

http://www.bespokeapproach.com/Thepower ... fault.aspx

Furthermore, Hakluyt is just another business that operates along the same lines.

Hakluyt & Company is a British professional services firm, specialising in business intelligence. It helps a set of mainly blue-chip clients build conviction by providing them with information gathered discreetly via a large independent worldwide network. Client requirements typically involve shedding light on market entry situations, competitor strategies and M&A situations.

The company was founded in 1995 by Christopher James and Mike Reynolds. James retired in mid-2006, stepping up to the firm's advisory board, and was replaced as managing director by Keith Craig.

Hakluyt maintains a large number of "associates" around the world who form an international network of what are effectively its agents, mostly senior individuals with excellent contacts in their own right. These people work independently of Hakluyt and themselves, to preserve the integrity of the information they provide.

Hakluyt is based in Mayfair, London.

The company's advisory board has included many high-profile figures in British industry and government, including William Purves, the former HSBC chairman; Peter Holmes, the former Shell chairman; Brian Cubbon, the former permanent under-secretary of state at the Home Office; Peter Cazalet, former deputy chairman of BP; Lord Inge, former Chief of the General Staff; Lord Trotman, former chairman and chief executive of Ford; Baroness Smith, widow of the former Labour leader; and Frank G. Wisner, former U.S. ambassador to India. More recent appointees include Bill Bradley, the former U.S. presidential candidate; Rod Eddington, the former CEO of British Airways; Chris Gent, the former chief executive of Vodafone; Ralph Robins, the former Rolls-Royce CEO and Sir David Manning, the former U.K, ambassador to the United States.

The company is currently chaired by ex-Unilever boss, Niall Fitzgerald.


This business also has some very high profile individuals and probably does employ persons who were MI6 agents. So what?

I too have held very high security clearances, and still hold some security clearances, but who is to stop me from resigning from my current position and setting up an Aviation Consultancy firm with various Aviation Defence Clients and then sub contracting Bespoke Approach or Haykluyt to achieve outcomes for clients within Australia or the UK? Obviously I would never compromise any classified knowledge I possess, even after I resign, as I am legally bound to never do so for my entire life, but no one can stop me from utilizing this knowledge to obtain advantageous outcomes for any clients. I will obviously be under heavy scrutiny from various agencies to ensure I don't violate any Commonwealth Secrecy Laws, and this could very well include such measures as phone taps and even surveillance,, which I am certain happens from time to time even now, and probably also occurs in Alexander Downer's case.

So who is to stop me from even obtaining a job with Hakluyt?

Furthermore, Alexander Downer does not seem to have any affiliation with Hakluyt, but I am certain he probably knows other individuals involved and that Hakluyt probably know Alexander Downer quite well. The 2 companies are probably business associates as their manifestos are undoubtedly quite similar.

Can you provide an official source as to Alexander Downer's involvement on the Hakluyt board? Surely their must be an official source on the internet?

Also, the RoC could in actual fact contract Alexander Downer to act on its behalf through Bespoke Approach if Alexander Downer was not UN Envoy on Cyprus, and there was no conflict of interest. But he would probably reject such business as he might even consider such a business partnership as being much more trouble than what it is worth. If there was no conflict of Interest, Bespoke could be used to lobby Ankara, and they would obviously utilise other firms to assist in this endeavor.

You are obviously trying very hard to find something to discredit Alexander Downer himself, and also the peace talks. Put it this way, AD was a politician for over 30+ years, and in that time he has never been discredited or destroyed by any political opponent, so I doubt Christofias or anyone else for that matter will even come close. He is far too smart to be caught out by your frightening games.

The RoC has made a very grave error by releasing secret UN documents. You people need to read "How to make friends and influence people" because your methods are, to say the least, below par to what is normally practiced in the first world and the EU! :?
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Postby Kikapu » Thu Oct 22, 2009 1:15 pm

YFred wrote:
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YFred wrote:Can we have at least the name of this person please as I lived there till 74,


sorry to go off here but weren't you having an exchange with paphitis a while back after some accussations were thrown at you and you had claimed that you had left Louroudjina in the 60's? :?

Nope 1972 Genuine mistake. Took off from Lefkosa airport. I lived in Lurucina (please get the name right) from 58 to 72. Is that clear enough or shall I provide a link?
You are bunch of armatures. If I said it once I said a thousand times. I wouldn't go by what Puffidis says or claims. Accusations my arse, the whole gang got together and started making things up as they went along. Kickapoo, DT, and Bafitis. All Liars. When you speak the truth you have nothing to fear.


I was going to ignore this thread by not commenting on it, but since YFred brought my name up in my absence, it is only fair that I respond.

It is in the financial interest of YFred and the YFred Clan to maintain the claim that he and the his clan had left Cyprus before 1974, if in fact they had left after 1974.!

Can anyone guess why.? :wink:

It is very easy to get the truth out of YFred directly or indirectly if one wanted by asking him to make a very pointed statement, as I've done recently, which he is unable to lie, so he refuses to answer it in order to conceal the truth. If he is able to answer it, then he is telling the truth. If he refuses to answer it, then he is telling a lie. YFred is not too complicated to figure out. Thank God for not giving him a brain, or else, he would really be fucking dangerous.!
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Postby YFred » Thu Oct 22, 2009 5:32 pm

Kikapu wrote:
YFred wrote:
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YFred wrote:Can we have at least the name of this person please as I lived there till 74,


sorry to go off here but weren't you having an exchange with paphitis a while back after some accussations were thrown at you and you had claimed that you had left Louroudjina in the 60's? :?

Nope 1972 Genuine mistake. Took off from Lefkosa airport. I lived in Lurucina (please get the name right) from 58 to 72. Is that clear enough or shall I provide a link?
You are bunch of armatures. If I said it once I said a thousand times. I wouldn't go by what Puffidis says or claims. Accusations my arse, the whole gang got together and started making things up as they went along. Kickapoo, DT, and Bafitis. All Liars. When you speak the truth you have nothing to fear.


I was going to ignore this thread by not commenting on it, but since YFred brought my name up in my absence, it is only fair that I respond.

It is in the financial interest of YFred and the YFred Clan to maintain the claim that he and the his clan had left Cyprus before 1974, if in fact they had left after 1974.!

Can anyone guess why.? :wink:

It is very easy to get the truth out of YFred directly or indirectly if one wanted by asking him to make a very pointed statement, as I've done recently, which he is unable to lie, so he refuses to answer it in order to conceal the truth. If he is able to answer it, then he is telling the truth. If he refuses to answer it, then he is telling a lie. YFred is not too complicated to figure out. Thank God for not giving him a brain, or else, he would really be fucking dangerous.!

Arshole has spoken again. God give us patience.
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Postby Kikapu » Thu Oct 22, 2009 6:12 pm

YFred wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
YFred wrote:
Gregory wrote:
YFred wrote:Can we have at least the name of this person please as I lived there till 74,


sorry to go off here but weren't you having an exchange with paphitis a while back after some accussations were thrown at you and you had claimed that you had left Louroudjina in the 60's? :?

Nope 1972 Genuine mistake. Took off from Lefkosa airport. I lived in Lurucina (please get the name right) from 58 to 72. Is that clear enough or shall I provide a link?
You are bunch of armatures. If I said it once I said a thousand times. I wouldn't go by what Puffidis says or claims. Accusations my arse, the whole gang got together and started making things up as they went along. Kickapoo, DT, and Bafitis. All Liars. When you speak the truth you have nothing to fear.


I was going to ignore this thread by not commenting on it, but since YFred brought my name up in my absence, it is only fair that I respond.

It is in the financial interest of YFred and the YFred Clan to maintain the claim that he and the his clan had left Cyprus before 1974, if in fact they had left after 1974.!

Can anyone guess why.? :wink:

It is very easy to get the truth out of YFred directly or indirectly if one wanted by asking him to make a very pointed statement, as I've done recently, which he is unable to lie, so he refuses to answer it in order to conceal the truth. If he is able to answer it, then he is telling the truth. If he refuses to answer it, then he is telling a lie. YFred is not too complicated to figure out. Thank God for not giving him a brain, or else, he would really be fucking dangerous.!

Arshole has spoken again. God give us patience.
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


No, we do not need God's Patience, just the truth will do as you have stated above for yourself.! :wink: :wink:

YFred wrote:When you speak the truth you have nothing to fear


...and yet, you were afraid to tell the truth when you were given a pointed statement to answer. So which is it YFred, that you are not afraid of the truth, or that you are afraid of the truth.?? :wink: :wink:
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Postby YFred » Thu Oct 22, 2009 6:26 pm

Kikapu wrote:
YFred wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
YFred wrote:
Gregory wrote:
YFred wrote:Can we have at least the name of this person please as I lived there till 74,


sorry to go off here but weren't you having an exchange with paphitis a while back after some accussations were thrown at you and you had claimed that you had left Louroudjina in the 60's? :?

Nope 1972 Genuine mistake. Took off from Lefkosa airport. I lived in Lurucina (please get the name right) from 58 to 72. Is that clear enough or shall I provide a link?
You are bunch of armatures. If I said it once I said a thousand times. I wouldn't go by what Puffidis says or claims. Accusations my arse, the whole gang got together and started making things up as they went along. Kickapoo, DT, and Bafitis. All Liars. When you speak the truth you have nothing to fear.


I was going to ignore this thread by not commenting on it, but since YFred brought my name up in my absence, it is only fair that I respond.

It is in the financial interest of YFred and the YFred Clan to maintain the claim that he and the his clan had left Cyprus before 1974, if in fact they had left after 1974.!

Can anyone guess why.? :wink:

It is very easy to get the truth out of YFred directly or indirectly if one wanted by asking him to make a very pointed statement, as I've done recently, which he is unable to lie, so he refuses to answer it in order to conceal the truth. If he is able to answer it, then he is telling the truth. If he refuses to answer it, then he is telling a lie. YFred is not too complicated to figure out. Thank God for not giving him a brain, or else, he would really be fucking dangerous.!

Arshole has spoken again. God give us patience.
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


No, we do not need God's Patience, just the truth will do as you have stated above for yourself.! :wink: :wink:

YFred wrote:When you speak the truth you have nothing to fear


...and yet, you were afraid to tell the truth when you were given a pointed statement to answer. So which is it YFred, that you are not afraid of the truth, or that you are afraid of the truth.?? :wink: :wink:

You are playing word games you empty headed yank. Which bit of the phrase did you not understand?

You call yourselves decent and yet you make things up as you go along. You have claimed that I have GC land. DT claimed that I am a grey wolf and Bafiti claimed that my father is known to him, quite as what he did not specify. As to Bumbo he is a lost cause. Between the 4 of you, you do not make one human being.

Goodbye.
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Postby Kikapu » Thu Oct 22, 2009 7:10 pm

YFred wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
YFred wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
YFred wrote:
Gregory wrote:
YFred wrote:Can we have at least the name of this person please as I lived there till 74,


sorry to go off here but weren't you having an exchange with paphitis a while back after some accussations were thrown at you and you had claimed that you had left Louroudjina in the 60's? :?

Nope 1972 Genuine mistake. Took off from Lefkosa airport. I lived in Lurucina (please get the name right) from 58 to 72. Is that clear enough or shall I provide a link?
You are bunch of armatures. If I said it once I said a thousand times. I wouldn't go by what Puffidis says or claims. Accusations my arse, the whole gang got together and started making things up as they went along. Kickapoo, DT, and Bafitis. All Liars. When you speak the truth you have nothing to fear.


I was going to ignore this thread by not commenting on it, but since YFred brought my name up in my absence, it is only fair that I respond.

It is in the financial interest of YFred and the YFred Clan to maintain the claim that he and the his clan had left Cyprus before 1974, if in fact they had left after 1974.!

Can anyone guess why.? :wink:

It is very easy to get the truth out of YFred directly or indirectly if one wanted by asking him to make a very pointed statement, as I've done recently, which he is unable to lie, so he refuses to answer it in order to conceal the truth. If he is able to answer it, then he is telling the truth. If he refuses to answer it, then he is telling a lie. YFred is not too complicated to figure out. Thank God for not giving him a brain, or else, he would really be fucking dangerous.!

Arshole has spoken again. God give us patience.
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


No, we do not need God's Patience, just the truth will do as you have stated above for yourself.! :wink: :wink:

YFred wrote:When you speak the truth you have nothing to fear


...and yet, you were afraid to tell the truth when you were given a pointed statement to answer. So which is it YFred, that you are not afraid of the truth, or that you are afraid of the truth.?? :wink: :wink:

You are playing word games you empty headed yank. Which bit of the phrase did you not understand?

You call yourselves decent and yet you make things up as you go along. You have claimed that I have GC land. DT claimed that I am a grey wolf and Bafiti claimed that my father is known to him, quite as what he did not specify. As to Bumbo he is a lost cause. Between the 4 of you, you do not make one human being.

Goodbye.


I have not claimed that you or your family have GC land because I do not know for a fact, but all the circumstantial evidence you have provided states that you and your family does have GC land which I have accused you and your family based on those circumstantial evidence provided no one other than yourself, which then you were given a chance to clear up such accusations by telling the truth, and you have refused to do so. I’ll let others be the judge of your refusal to clear up such accusations, which should have been very easy for you to do, for a man who claims to have nothing to hide because he has no fear from telling the truth. For me, you have failed your own convictions to tell the truth, if in fact that’s what they are for you, or were they just merely empty words.?
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Postby B25 » Thu Oct 22, 2009 7:23 pm

Kiks, i think you had better go easy on Yfronts, I think you have busted him :lol: :lol: :lol:

He should know better than to mess with the kiks 8)

He is so tangled up in his own lies and admissions he has nowhere else to go but to rabbit on about this and that meaningless statements.

Well hang on in there kiks you may tame him after all. :lol: :lol: :lol:

(Watch the Yfronts abuse now.........)
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Postby Viewpoint » Thu Oct 22, 2009 8:23 pm

Kikapu wrote:
YFred wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
YFred wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
YFred wrote:
Gregory wrote:
YFred wrote:Can we have at least the name of this person please as I lived there till 74,


sorry to go off here but weren't you having an exchange with paphitis a while back after some accussations were thrown at you and you had claimed that you had left Louroudjina in the 60's? :?

Nope 1972 Genuine mistake. Took off from Lefkosa airport. I lived in Lurucina (please get the name right) from 58 to 72. Is that clear enough or shall I provide a link?
You are bunch of armatures. If I said it once I said a thousand times. I wouldn't go by what Puffidis says or claims. Accusations my arse, the whole gang got together and started making things up as they went along. Kickapoo, DT, and Bafitis. All Liars. When you speak the truth you have nothing to fear.


I was going to ignore this thread by not commenting on it, but since YFred brought my name up in my absence, it is only fair that I respond.

It is in the financial interest of YFred and the YFred Clan to maintain the claim that he and the his clan had left Cyprus before 1974, if in fact they had left after 1974.!

Can anyone guess why.? :wink:

It is very easy to get the truth out of YFred directly or indirectly if one wanted by asking him to make a very pointed statement, as I've done recently, which he is unable to lie, so he refuses to answer it in order to conceal the truth. If he is able to answer it, then he is telling the truth. If he refuses to answer it, then he is telling a lie. YFred is not too complicated to figure out. Thank God for not giving him a brain, or else, he would really be fucking dangerous.!

Arshole has spoken again. God give us patience.
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


No, we do not need God's Patience, just the truth will do as you have stated above for yourself.! :wink: :wink:

YFred wrote:When you speak the truth you have nothing to fear


...and yet, you were afraid to tell the truth when you were given a pointed statement to answer. So which is it YFred, that you are not afraid of the truth, or that you are afraid of the truth.?? :wink: :wink:

You are playing word games you empty headed yank. Which bit of the phrase did you not understand?

You call yourselves decent and yet you make things up as you go along. You have claimed that I have GC land. DT claimed that I am a grey wolf and Bafiti claimed that my father is known to him, quite as what he did not specify. As to Bumbo he is a lost cause. Between the 4 of you, you do not make one human being.

Goodbye.


I have not claimed that you or your family have GC land because I do not know for a fact, but all the circumstantial evidence you have provided states that you and your family does have GC land which I have accused you and your family based on those circumstantial evidence provided no one other than yourself, which then you were given a chance to clear up such accusations by telling the truth, and you have refused to do so. I’ll let others be the judge of your refusal to clear up such accusations, which should have been very easy for you to do, for a man who claims to have nothing to hide because he has no fear from telling the truth. For me, you have failed your own convictions to tell the truth, if in fact that’s what they are for you, or were they just merely empty words.?


Playing judge jury and executioner yet again Kikapu....pathetic individual that you are people are not stupid enough to accept the shit you throw around hoping it will stick.

Only place it sticks is in your own face.
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Postby Viewpoint » Thu Oct 22, 2009 8:24 pm

B25 wrote:Kiks, i think you had better go easy on Yfronts, I think you have busted him :lol: :lol: :lol:

He should know better than to mess with the kiks 8)

He is so tangled up in his own lies and admissions he has nowhere else to go but to rabbit on about this and that meaningless statements.

Well hang on in there kiks you may tame him after all. :lol: :lol: :lol:

(Watch the Yfronts abuse now.........)


Says B25 a mind of wisdom...not.
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