insan wrote:Piratis wrote:Bananiot wrote:Piratis, you make me laugh. At least have the decency to make youself public and then decide who is real and who is fake. Perhaps this Saturday morning I can take you over to our enemy's side and introduce you to some real TC's who have bore the brunt of TMT's menice but stood their ground and are still battling away, when your protege was secretly meeting with the Denktash's plotting the perpetuation of the Turkish army in Cyprus.
Your simplistic questions should be addressed to those that have accepted that the solution we are seeking is bizonal, bicommunal federation with political equality as defined by the relevent resolutions of the UN. Perhaps you do not like this but here you are in the minority, I am afraid, and again, by your own logic, the truth is just a matter of statistics, so the majority is correct. I cannot really help you.
I do not know what the crazy woman is doing here but perhaps she can answer her own question by pondering on the reasons we accepted federation when up to 1974 anyone who dared mentioned the dreaded word was sent to hell.
In the past I have shown many times how a BBF can be perfectly acceptable if it has the right content. BBF does not require rotating presidencies or anything of that sort. Only a small minority of Cypriots would accept a "BBF" with the kind of content that you would, and this was shown in the most clear and direct way with the referendum.
So I ask you again: Are the "solutions" you accept just and fair? It is a very
simple question and I am sure you can answer it with a "yes" or a "no". So why are you afraid to do so?
And I don't doubt that there are real TC who have principles and have stood their ground against TMT. But many of your friends, like Halil, Insan and many others, are people that have fully adopted the TMT position and want as much division, separation and gains on our expense as possible. If it was up to them to "solve" the problem by having "trnc" recognized tomorrow non of these people would hesitate.
The TCs that stood against some wrong actions of some high ranked members of TMT had nothing to do with being the "real TCs" and accepting ur minority status proposal. Some TCs including me still have been critisizing some actions of some high ranked members of TMT, to the contrary of ur behaviour that idolize EOKA despite the fact it killed many supposedly "traitor" GCs. So Piratis, don't mix ur nuts with our pirillis.
Insan, I do not idolize EOKA. What we had in the 50s was a revolution of the Cypriot people for freedom, and in revolutions rarely is everything well planned and organized. If some EOKA member killed a person who was not a traitor then I have no problem to accept that as a mistake. In general however I 100% agree with the
cause of EOKA: The freedom of Cyprus from foreign Imperialists so the Cypriot people can democratically decide the destiny of their own island among legitimate options, such as the union of Cyprus with the rest of Greece.
Now you tell me, did you disagree with the
cause of TMT: The partition of Cyprus along with the required ethnic cleansing? Because when Bananiot is talking about people who "stood against TMT" this is what he means. Not merely people who maybe disagreed with some of the tactics of some people within TMT.
While Bananiot might have no problem to be friends with people like you, personally I never make any friendships with people that do not respect my human and democratic rights. Most of us, unlike Bananiot, are not born to be "good slaves". This is why an unjust and unfair solution will never work in Cyprus. The Cypriot people will sooner or later revolt against their oppressors seeking their human and democratic rights. (and of course the Bananiots would then join the Imperialists and blame the Cypriot people for this
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