Paphitis wrote:bill cobbett wrote:.. and another thing ...
Many, many in the Diasporas have a personal and very real interest in the property issue. Large tracts of CY are owned by the Diasporas.
Is Loukas also saying to us that the Diasporas will be treated as second-class by being denied a say, of being silenced, in what happens on this property matter?
You are absolutely correct Bill....
Allow me to also add, that many in the diaspora are not only in the diaspora as a consequence of the invasion and have lost property, but they have also lost loved ones, and friends, many of which are still unaccounted for.
But Bill, never ever forget that both you and I will be well beneath second class....
You and I are a third class Cypriots. GCs living in Cyprus are second class citizens!
You can work out for yourself who the first class 'Cypriots' ARE, and will remain so post solution!
Also, the chance of a solution coming out of these talks is extremely remote. There is very little the diaspora or anyone else can do about this.
But the diaspora continues to form pressure and lobby groups, and this really does amaze me, because the diaspora could almost be forgiven for just letting go of Cyprus, and just take their property and human rights claims to the ECHR and ECJ. The fact that few can't let go of Cyprus is amazing, and these Cypriots are nationalists or patriots...but they are a dieing breed!
The diaspora does not have any say on the future of Cyprus, and so it will remain.
If anyone finds that acceptable, then I don't know what to say...
BillC wrote:Can I just say that in my experiences of talking to friends and others in real life about Cyprob. The CYs of CY are far more likely to take a firmer, more beligerant, more militaristic approach, a more GR approach (if he'll forgive me for using him as example).
Diaspora CYs, again to my experience, are far more lkely to promote more peaceful means.
Is Loogas trying to pick easy targets in the Diasporas, to discredit and cut them off from the homeland for his Appeasement?
The above is also true...
Some are trying to cut off the diaspora completely because it will allow them to more easily bring forth derogations to fundamental democratic and human rights which could never ever see the day of light in our adopted countries.
But this is inconsequential, as the diaspora is cut off from Cyprus, due to RoC Government policies on voting as well as many other things too numerous to list.
But if that's what they want, then so be it. Cypriots in Cyprus will create the Cyprus of tomorrow, and the diaspora can always remain within their adopted countries if they don't like the Cyprus of tomorrow. So in the end, the Cypriots of the diaspora will lose their homeland, but Cypriots living in Cyprus will potentially lose their homeland over time or at the very least, grow to accept Apartheid...
Bafidobullo, you are not third class sunshine, you are tirdclass.
