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[Oracle]

IDALION: The city of Idalion, about 20 km south of Nicosia, near the modern village of Dhali, was founded at the site of a much older settlement. During the 17th Century B.C. (Bronze Age), there was a fort there and in the 12th Century, an acropolis (fortified hillsite settlement) followed, the latter inhabited by indigenous people, which means the actual Cypriots of the time, not immigrants from anywhere else. These “Eteo-Cypriots” (“True Cypriots”) are a somewhat mysterious race, as we still don’t know what language they spoke, only that it was not Greek. They probably derived from the first inhabitants of Cyprus, who had lived here since the Stone Age. However, these Eteo-Cypriots seem to have abandoned their Idalion site, when the last wave of Mycenaeans reached it and built their own city there in the 11th Century B.C. Around 800 B.C., Idalion was influenced by the seafaring and trade power of Phoenicia, which later became an enemy, but at this stage had several cities in Cyprus, peacefully co-existing with their Greek speaking neighbours.

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[insan]

IDALION: The city of Idalion, about 20 km south of Nicosia, near the modern village of Dhali, was founded at the site of a much older settlement. During the 17th Century B.C. (Bronze Age), there was a fort there and in the 12th Century, an acropolis (fortified hillsite settlement) followed, the latter inhabited by indigenous people, which means the actual Cypriots of the time, not immigrants from anywhere else. These “Eteo-Cypriots” (“True Cypriots”) are a somewhat mysterious race, as we still don’t know what language they spoke, only that it was not Greek. They probably derived from the first inhabitants of Cyprus, who had lived here since the Stone Age. However, these Eteo-Cypriots seem to have abandoned their Idalion site, when the last wave of Mycenaeans reached it and built their own city there in the 11th Century B.C. Around 800 B.C., Idalion was influenced by the seafaring and trade power of Phoenicia, which later became an enemy, but at this stage had several cities in Cyprus, peacefully co-existing with their Greek speaking neighbours.

http://www.paphosinternationalschool.co ... fault.aspx

You missed out highlighting the last bit

Yeah, at some stages of history all ethnic groups had peaceful co-existence with their neighbours and at some other stages they had conflicts. Whta made u so much happy?

[Oracle]

IDALION: The city of Idalion, about 20 km south of Nicosia, near the modern village of Dhali, was founded at the site of a much older settlement. During the 17th Century B.C. (Bronze Age), there was a fort there and in the 12th Century, an acropolis (fortified hillsite settlement) followed, the latter inhabited by indigenous people, which means the actual Cypriots of the time, not immigrants from anywhere else. These “Eteo-Cypriots” (“True Cypriots”) are a somewhat mysterious race, as we still don’t know what language they spoke, only that it was not Greek. They probably derived from the first inhabitants of Cyprus, who had lived here since the Stone Age. However, these Eteo-Cypriots seem to have abandoned their Idalion site, when the last wave of Mycenaeans reached it and built their own city there in the 11th Century B.C. Around 800 B.C., Idalion was influenced by the seafaring and trade power of Phoenicia, which later became an enemy, but at this stage had several cities in Cyprus, peacefully co-existing with their Greek speaking neighbours.

http://www.paphosinternationalschool.co ... fault.aspx

You missed out highlighting the last bit

Yeah, at some stages of history all ethnic groups had peaceful co-existence with their neighbours and at some other stages they had conflicts. Whta made u so much happy?

Another insight into the psychological "workings" of your brain ...

[Nikitas]

Nobody knows the 14 Gospels. And that is not a good sign, means there are not many Cypriots here.

[Gregory]

Nobody knows the 14 Gospels. And that is not a good sign, means there are not many Cypriots here.

Na kanoniso ton thkion mou ton psaltin na sou ta pei an theleis. Whats the big deal with them?

[Get Real!]

Nobody knows the 14 Gospels. And that is not a good sign, means there are not many Cypriots here.

Nikitas, as I’m sure you’ll know… Xillouris went through a period of fascination with Cyprus at some stage in his musical career during which he composed some songs for and about Cyprus, some of which utilized Cypriot words, phrases, and sentences.

Now, what’s the point you’re trying to make?

[Tim Drayton]

Department of Linguistics, UCSD
San Diego Linguistic Papers, Issue 2
(University of California, San Diego)
Year 2006 Paper 2

Linguistic practices in Cyprus and the
emergence of Cypriot Standard Greek

Amalia Arvaniti
University of California, San Diego

“In Cyprus today systematic changes affecting all levels of linguistic analysis are observed in the use of Standard Greek, giving rise to a distinct linguistic variety which can be called Cypriot Standard Greek. The changes can be attributed to the influence of English and Cypriot Greek (the local linguistic variety), and to the increasing use of the Standard in semi-formal occasions. Equally important is the reluctance to recognize the diglossic situation on the island (in which Standard Greek is the H variety and Cypriot Greek the L), for political and ideological reasons. This in turn means that the attention of the Cypriot speakers is not drawn to the differences between Standard Greek as spoken in Greece and their usage of it; thus the differences become gradually consolidated, while
the users remain unaware of them.”

http://repositories.cdlib.org/cgi/viewc ... t=ucsdling

Thanks for posting this. I, for one, am very interested in both of the main vernacular languages of Cyprus. However, when clicking on the above link, I get the following:

"ERROR: Page Not Found

The page you requested was not found."

[Tim Drayton]

Where's Cypriot Turkish reh seperatist GR?! Biz insan deyilik?

The Cypriot language goes back way before the Ottomans arrived here Insan, but feel free to add a decent link to a good TC study.

There is some very useful material written in standard Turkish, especially some studies by the linguist Nurettin Demir, and I know of two very good Turkish Cypriot <> Standard Turkish dictionaries, but I do not think that there is very much in English.

[insan]

Department of Linguistics, UCSD
San Diego Linguistic Papers, Issue 2
(University of California, San Diego)
Year 2006 Paper 2

Linguistic practices in Cyprus and the
emergence of Cypriot Standard Greek

Amalia Arvaniti
University of California, San Diego

“In Cyprus today systematic changes affecting all levels of linguistic analysis are observed in the use of Standard Greek, giving rise to a distinct linguistic variety which can be called Cypriot Standard Greek. The changes can be attributed to the influence of English and Cypriot Greek (the local linguistic variety), and to the increasing use of the Standard in semi-formal occasions. Equally important is the reluctance to recognize the diglossic situation on the island (in which Standard Greek is the H variety and Cypriot Greek the L), for political and ideological reasons. This in turn means that the attention of the Cypriot speakers is not drawn to the differences between Standard Greek as spoken in Greece and their usage of it; thus the differences become gradually consolidated, while
the users remain unaware of them.”

http://repositories.cdlib.org/cgi/viewc ... t=ucsdling

Thanks for posting this. I, for one, am very interested in both of the main vernacular languages of Cyprus. However, when clicking on the above link, I get the following:

"ERROR: Page Not Found

The page you requested was not found."

Try this link Tim.

http://escholarship.org/uc/item/3qx6t51c

[Tim Drayton]

Department of Linguistics, UCSD
San Diego Linguistic Papers, Issue 2
(University of California, San Diego)
Year 2006 Paper 2

Linguistic practices in Cyprus and the
emergence of Cypriot Standard Greek

Amalia Arvaniti
University of California, San Diego

“In Cyprus today systematic changes affecting all levels of linguistic analysis are observed in the use of Standard Greek, giving rise to a distinct linguistic variety which can be called Cypriot Standard Greek. The changes can be attributed to the influence of English and Cypriot Greek (the local linguistic variety), and to the increasing use of the Standard in semi-formal occasions. Equally important is the reluctance to recognize the diglossic situation on the island (in which Standard Greek is the H variety and Cypriot Greek the L), for political and ideological reasons. This in turn means that the attention of the Cypriot speakers is not drawn to the differences between Standard Greek as spoken in Greece and their usage of it; thus the differences become gradually consolidated, while
the users remain unaware of them.”

http://repositories.cdlib.org/cgi/viewc ... t=ucsdling

Thanks for posting this. I, for one, am very interested in both of the main vernacular languages of Cyprus. However, when clicking on the above link, I get the following:

"ERROR: Page Not Found

The page you requested was not found."

Try this link Tim.

http://escholarship.org/uc/item/3qx6t51c

Thank you, you really are bir tanem.