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SYMBOL OF PEACE

Postby halil » Thu Oct 15, 2009 1:28 pm

Before the meeting started, Talat and Christofias planted two olive trees in front of the negotiations building in the UN-controlled buffer zone to symbolize peace.

More than 50 bi-communal non-governmental organizations also read out a joint declaration which expressed their support to the two leaders.
“Organizations from both sides have now initiated a joint effort to discuss and exchange ideas in a matter which can contribute at a grassroots level. Now is the right to achieve a lasting peace by moving forward to an agreed solution” the declaration said.

The NGO group also opened a poster which said ‘we are engaging in the peace process’ and displayed all the names who supported the action.
In his speech at the event, Greek Cypriot Leader Christofias said they have been working very hard towards achieving a lasting and functional solution in Cyprus.

“We need a ‘Cyprus’ for Cypriots” he said.
Yet he added that the Greek Cypriot Side wants foreign parties to become involved in the solution process without intervening.
Later, Turkish Cypriots leader Mehmet Ali Talat stressed that solution will be achieved with peoples’ support and reminded that at the end of the day the agreement to be reached will be put to simultaneous referenda.

“Our goal is to establish a unified Cyprus. And bearing in mind that public support is vital for the solution process, we must not ignore the significant role of NGOs as well” the Talat added.
Later the leaders moved on with the next round.

The revised paper of the Greek Cypriot Side, as well as Turkish proposals presented earlier, topped today’s discussions.
According to the information obtained by the Bayrak Television correspondent, the revised proposal replaces the early offer envisaging a single ballot paper for the election of federal presidency by the peoples, with an offer on two separate ballot papers.

That is, the two sides can elect their own co-presidents from separate lists of candidates.
20 percent of votes from both sides will have an influence on the election of the co-president from the other side.


The Turkish Cypriots side does not fully welcome the proposal but sees the replacement of the single list with two lists as a positive step.
The Turkish Cypriots side wants the federal senate to elect presidency while the Greek Cypriot Side insists on direct public vote.


Meanwhile speaking at the end of the meeting the UN Special Representative to Cyprus Taye-Brook Zerihoun announced that the next meeting between the two leaders will be on the 21st of October. Foreign Relations is expected to be taken up on that time. On the 22nd of October the property issue is expected to be taken up.

The leaders are also expected to meet on the 27th of October, the 2nd of November and the 6th of November.
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Postby YFred » Thu Oct 15, 2009 1:37 pm

Halil let us pray and hope that the current talks produce fruits quicker than these planted olive trees.
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Postby halil » Thu Oct 15, 2009 1:43 pm

PR TALAT: GC SIDE’S REVISED PAPER MIGHT ELIMINATE TURKISH SIDE’S CONCERNS

Talat told reporters at the end of yesterday meeting with the Leader of the Greek Cypriots, that the revised paper submitted by the Greek Cypriot Side on the Executive is a step forward in eliminating the Turkish side’s concerns.

He also stated that the Greek Cypriot Side will accept the rotatory presidency, as put forward by the Turkish Cypriots side.

Talat once again reminded that the goal of negotiations is to provide the Cyprus problem with a bi-communal solution which will take political equality of the two sides as its major principle.

Talat said, once a good level of rapprochment is reached between the two sides on the Executive, then the solution of the Cyprus problem will gain a much more clear shape.

In response, Talat said: “We don’t have any objections to the election of presidency by the two peoples. But what we thought of is the difference in voters’ population of the two sides. We have 400 thousand voters on one hand, and 170 thousand on the other. We thought it would be difficult to establish agreement among all, under such circumstances. We wanted the federal senate to elect the President and the Vice-President because we perceived it to be the guarantee of political equality with its structure of formation. But if the public vote does not challenge the principle of political equality, we are not against that. We are rather concerned, with the way the Presidency- to be elected by the peoples-, ensures the security of the federal structure”.
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Postby halil » Thu Oct 15, 2009 1:49 pm

YFred wrote:Halil let us pray and hope that the current talks produce fruits quicker than these planted olive trees.


we are all kept our fingers crossed .

not just play with symbols .... Cyprus flag had symbol too but did not help ......
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Postby paliometoxo » Thu Oct 15, 2009 1:51 pm

hopefully this time things will be different
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Postby insan » Thu Oct 15, 2009 2:23 pm

halil wrote:PR TALAT: GC SIDE’S REVISED PAPER MIGHT ELIMINATE TURKISH SIDE’S CONCERNS

Talat told reporters at the end of yesterday meeting with the Leader of the Greek Cypriots, that the revised paper submitted by the Greek Cypriot Side on the Executive is a step forward in eliminating the Turkish side’s concerns.

He also stated that the Greek Cypriot Side will accept the rotatory presidency, as put forward by the Turkish Cypriots side.

Talat once again reminded that the goal of negotiations is to provide the Cyprus problem with a bi-communal solution which will take political equality of the two sides as its major principle.

Talat said, once a good level of rapprochment is reached between the two sides on the Executive, then the solution of the Cyprus problem will gain a much more clear shape.

In response, Talat said: “We don’t have any objections to the election of presidency by the two peoples. But what we thought of is the difference in voters’ population of the two sides. We have 400 thousand voters on one hand, and 170 thousand on the other. We thought it would be difficult to establish agreement among all, under such circumstances. We wanted the federal senate to elect the President and the Vice-President because we perceived it to be the guarantee of political equality with its structure of formation. But if the public vote does not challenge the principle of political equality, we are not against that. We are rather concerned, with the way the Presidency- to be elected by the peoples-, ensures the security of the federal structure”.


Hmmm... they want to have 2x influence on the election of TC president, on the other hand they want us to have 1x influence on election of GC president... this is in violation of "political equality principle" that was accepted by their leaderships.
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Postby halil » Thu Oct 15, 2009 2:38 pm

insan wrote:
halil wrote:PR TALAT: GC SIDE’S REVISED PAPER MIGHT ELIMINATE TURKISH SIDE’S CONCERNS

Talat told reporters at the end of yesterday meeting with the Leader of the Greek Cypriots, that the revised paper submitted by the Greek Cypriot Side on the Executive is a step forward in eliminating the Turkish side’s concerns.

He also stated that the Greek Cypriot Side will accept the rotatory presidency, as put forward by the Turkish Cypriots side.

Talat once again reminded that the goal of negotiations is to provide the Cyprus problem with a bi-communal solution which will take political equality of the two sides as its major principle.

Talat said, once a good level of rapprochment is reached between the two sides on the Executive, then the solution of the Cyprus problem will gain a much more clear shape.

In response, Talat said: “We don’t have any objections to the election of presidency by the two peoples. But what we thought of is the difference in voters’ population of the two sides. We have 400 thousand voters on one hand, and 170 thousand on the other. We thought it would be difficult to establish agreement among all, under such circumstances. We wanted the federal senate to elect the President and the Vice-President because we perceived it to be the guarantee of political equality with its structure of formation. But if the public vote does not challenge the principle of political equality, we are not against that. We are rather concerned, with the way the Presidency- to be elected by the peoples-, ensures the security of the federal structure”.


Hmmm... they want to have 2x influence on the election of TC president, on the other hand they want us to have 1x influence on election of GC president... this is in violation of "political equality principle" that was accepted by their leaderships.


yaa Insan , more information more we can understand .
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Postby GeorgeV97qaue » Thu Oct 15, 2009 2:41 pm

insan wrote:
halil wrote:PR TALAT: GC SIDE’S REVISED PAPER MIGHT ELIMINATE TURKISH SIDE’S CONCERNS

Talat told reporters at the end of yesterday meeting with the Leader of the Greek Cypriots, that the revised paper submitted by the Greek Cypriot Side on the Executive is a step forward in eliminating the Turkish side’s concerns.

He also stated that the Greek Cypriot Side will accept the rotatory presidency, as put forward by the Turkish Cypriots side.

Talat once again reminded that the goal of negotiations is to provide the Cyprus problem with a bi-communal solution which will take political equality of the two sides as its major principle.

Talat said, once a good level of rapprochment is reached between the two sides on the Executive, then the solution of the Cyprus problem will gain a much more clear shape.

In response, Talat said: “We don’t have any objections to the election of presidency by the two peoples. But what we thought of is the difference in voters’ population of the two sides. We have 400 thousand voters on one hand, and 170 thousand on the other. We thought it would be difficult to establish agreement among all, under such circumstances. We wanted the federal senate to elect the President and the Vice-President because we perceived it to be the guarantee of political equality with its structure of formation. But if the public vote does not challenge the principle of political equality, we are not against that. We are rather concerned, with the way the Presidency- to be elected by the peoples-, ensures the security of the federal structure”.


Hmmm... they want to have 2x influence on the election of TC president, on the other hand they want us to have 1x influence on election of GC president... this is in violation of "political equality principle" that was accepted by their leaderships.


How about our Human rights you dont give a shit about them do you. Only thinking of yourselve again. Whats wrong with the people deciding.
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Postby insan » Thu Oct 15, 2009 2:53 pm

GeorgeV97qaue wrote:
insan wrote:
halil wrote:PR TALAT: GC SIDE’S REVISED PAPER MIGHT ELIMINATE TURKISH SIDE’S CONCERNS

Talat told reporters at the end of yesterday meeting with the Leader of the Greek Cypriots, that the revised paper submitted by the Greek Cypriot Side on the Executive is a step forward in eliminating the Turkish side’s concerns.

He also stated that the Greek Cypriot Side will accept the rotatory presidency, as put forward by the Turkish Cypriots side.

Talat once again reminded that the goal of negotiations is to provide the Cyprus problem with a bi-communal solution which will take political equality of the two sides as its major principle.

Talat said, once a good level of rapprochment is reached between the two sides on the Executive, then the solution of the Cyprus problem will gain a much more clear shape.

In response, Talat said: “We don’t have any objections to the election of presidency by the two peoples. But what we thought of is the difference in voters’ population of the two sides. We have 400 thousand voters on one hand, and 170 thousand on the other. We thought it would be difficult to establish agreement among all, under such circumstances. We wanted the federal senate to elect the President and the Vice-President because we perceived it to be the guarantee of political equality with its structure of formation. But if the public vote does not challenge the principle of political equality, we are not against that. We are rather concerned, with the way the Presidency- to be elected by the peoples-, ensures the security of the federal structure”.


Hmmm... they want to have 2x influence on the election of TC president, on the other hand they want us to have 1x influence on election of GC president... this is in violation of "political equality principle" that was accepted by their leaderships.


How about our Human rights you dont give a shit about them do you. Only thinking of yourselve again. Whats wrong with the people deciding.


I've already put forward my opinions abt ur human rights in some of my previous posts... I won't repeat them here one more time just to inform u.
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Postby YFred » Thu Oct 15, 2009 3:46 pm

GeorgeV97qaue wrote:
insan wrote:
halil wrote:PR TALAT: GC SIDE’S REVISED PAPER MIGHT ELIMINATE TURKISH SIDE’S CONCERNS

Talat told reporters at the end of yesterday meeting with the Leader of the Greek Cypriots, that the revised paper submitted by the Greek Cypriot Side on the Executive is a step forward in eliminating the Turkish side’s concerns.

He also stated that the Greek Cypriot Side will accept the rotatory presidency, as put forward by the Turkish Cypriots side.

Talat once again reminded that the goal of negotiations is to provide the Cyprus problem with a bi-communal solution which will take political equality of the two sides as its major principle.

Talat said, once a good level of rapprochment is reached between the two sides on the Executive, then the solution of the Cyprus problem will gain a much more clear shape.

In response, Talat said: “We don’t have any objections to the election of presidency by the two peoples. But what we thought of is the difference in voters’ population of the two sides. We have 400 thousand voters on one hand, and 170 thousand on the other. We thought it would be difficult to establish agreement among all, under such circumstances. We wanted the federal senate to elect the President and the Vice-President because we perceived it to be the guarantee of political equality with its structure of formation. But if the public vote does not challenge the principle of political equality, we are not against that. We are rather concerned, with the way the Presidency- to be elected by the peoples-, ensures the security of the federal structure”.


Hmmm... they want to have 2x influence on the election of TC president, on the other hand they want us to have 1x influence on election of GC president... this is in violation of "political equality principle" that was accepted by their leaderships.


How about our Human rights you dont give a shit about them do you. Only thinking of yourselve again. Whats wrong with the people deciding.

You are talking about your human rights? to TCs who have been isolated for 35 years?
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