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[insan]

Since the TCs were offered 25% by the GCs and was not accepted and since the GCs were offered 71% by the TCs and was not accepted I propose (and are you sitting down?) 27%/73% split.

The reply to your proposition has just come through...

Land Ownership by Ethnic Group:

60.9% - Greek/Armenian/Maronite Cypriots
12.3% - Turkish Cypriots
0.5% - Others
26.3% - State/Church Land

Source: Department of Lands and Surveys (refer to Annex 14 in Volume II of the "Memorandum by the Minister of Foreign Affairs of the Republic of Cyprus" submitted to the Foreign Affairs Committee of the House of Commons, 27 February 1987.

http://www.greece.org/cyprus/Maps.htm

Weird... How could 1/3 of the population own just 12.3% of Cyprus? If TCs lost land by emigration then most of the countries should lost their land in same proportion to their emigration rates. So far there's no country on earth that lose it's land in correlation with emigration of it's people.

[Get Real!]

Since the TCs were offered 25% by the GCs and was not accepted and since the GCs were offered 71% by the TCs and was not accepted I propose (and are you sitting down?) 27%/73% split.

The reply to your proposition has just come through...

Land Ownership by Ethnic Group:

60.9% - Greek/Armenian/Maronite Cypriots
12.3% - Turkish Cypriots
0.5% - Others
26.3% - State/Church Land

Source: Department of Lands and Surveys (refer to Annex 14 in Volume II of the "Memorandum by the Minister of Foreign Affairs of the Republic of Cyprus" submitted to the Foreign Affairs Committee of the House of Commons, 27 February 1987.

http://www.greece.org/cyprus/Maps.htm

Weird... How could 1/3 of the population own just 12.3% of Cyprus? If TCs lost land by emigration then most of the countries should lost their land in same proportion to their emigration rates. So far there's no country on earth that lose it's land in correlation with emigration of it's people.

A third of the population? Don’t you know basic maths?


The last official census for the entire population of Cyprus was conducted in 1960 and resulted in the following figures:

Greek Cypriots:......441,568
Armenians:................3,627
Maronites:..................2,706
Turkish Cypriots:.....103,822
Others:....................24,408

http://countrystudies.us/cyprus/21.htm

[B25]

Since the TCs were offered 25% by the GCs and was not accepted and since the GCs were offered 71% by the TCs and was not accepted I propose (and are you sitting down?) 27%/73% split.

The reply to your proposition has just come through...

Land Ownership by Ethnic Group:

60.9% - Greek/Armenian/Maronite Cypriots
12.3% - Turkish Cypriots
0.5% - Others
26.3% - State/Church Land

Source: Department of Lands and Surveys (refer to Annex 14 in Volume II of the "Memorandum by the Minister of Foreign Affairs of the Republic of Cyprus" submitted to the Foreign Affairs Committee of the House of Commons, 27 February 1987.

http://www.greece.org/cyprus/Maps.htm

Weird... How could 1/3 of the population own just 12.3% of Cyprus? If TCs lost land by emigration then most of the countries should lost their land in same proportion to their emigration rates. So far there's no country on earth that lose it's land in correlation with emigration of it's people.

Because not every person is a land owner, idiot.

A man, his wife and 4 kids = 6 only one of them owns the land. Duh, whats difficult with that.

try again, you might just get something right.

[insan]

Since the TCs were offered 25% by the GCs and was not accepted and since the GCs were offered 71% by the TCs and was not accepted I propose (and are you sitting down?) 27%/73% split.

The reply to your proposition has just come through...

Land Ownership by Ethnic Group:

60.9% - Greek/Armenian/Maronite Cypriots
12.3% - Turkish Cypriots
0.5% - Others
26.3% - State/Church Land

Source: Department of Lands and Surveys (refer to Annex 14 in Volume II of the "Memorandum by the Minister of Foreign Affairs of the Republic of Cyprus" submitted to the Foreign Affairs Committee of the House of Commons, 27 February 1987.

http://www.greece.org/cyprus/Maps.htm

Weird... How could 1/3 of the population own just 12.3% of Cyprus? If TCs lost land by emigration then most of the countries should lost their land in same proportion to their emigration rates. So far there's no country on earth that lose it's land in correlation with emigration of it's people.

A third of the population? Don’t you know basic maths?


The last official census for the entire population of Cyprus was conducted in 1960 and resulted in the following figures:

Greek Cypriots: 441,568
Armenians: 3,627
Maronites: 2,706
Turkish Cypriots: 103,822
Others: 24,408

http://countrystudies.us/cyprus/21.htm

But according to the census in 1882, TCs were 1/3 of the Cyprus population and their property owned by Evkaf until 1946 when the TC population decreased 1/5 of the population. Those TCs who emigrated until 1946 couldn't sell their properties but restitute back to Evkaf. So where all the properties of emigrated TCs have gone if they legally restituted their properties to Evkaf before emigrating? Evkaf administration was recognized both during the British Rule and RoC.

[Get Real!]

Since the TCs were offered 25% by the GCs and was not accepted and since the GCs were offered 71% by the TCs and was not accepted I propose (and are you sitting down?) 27%/73% split.

The reply to your proposition has just come through...

Land Ownership by Ethnic Group:

60.9% - Greek/Armenian/Maronite Cypriots
12.3% - Turkish Cypriots
0.5% - Others
26.3% - State/Church Land

Source: Department of Lands and Surveys (refer to Annex 14 in Volume II of the "Memorandum by the Minister of Foreign Affairs of the Republic of Cyprus" submitted to the Foreign Affairs Committee of the House of Commons, 27 February 1987.

http://www.greece.org/cyprus/Maps.htm

Weird... How could 1/3 of the population own just 12.3% of Cyprus? If TCs lost land by emigration then most of the countries should lost their land in same proportion to their emigration rates. So far there's no country on earth that lose it's land in correlation with emigration of it's people.

A third of the population? Don’t you know basic maths?


The last official census for the entire population of Cyprus was conducted in 1960 and resulted in the following figures:

Greek Cypriots: 441,568
Armenians: 3,627
Maronites: 2,706
Turkish Cypriots: 103,822
Others: 24,408

http://countrystudies.us/cyprus/21.htm

But according to the census in 1882, TCs were 1/3 of the Cyprus population and their property owned by Evkaf until 1946 when the TC population decreased 1/5 of the population. Those TCs who emigrated until 1946 couldn't sell their properties but restitute back to Evkaf. So where all the properties of emigrated TCs have gone if they legally restituted their properties to Evkaf before emigrating? Evkaf administration was recognized both during the British Rule and RoC.

From the Library of Congress…



“Table 5. Population of Cyprus, Selected Years, 1491-1973”

Year - Population - Increase - Ruler

1491 - 168,000 ??? Venetian
1575 - 180,000 +12,000 in 84 years Ottoman
1881 - 186,200 +6,200 in 306 years Ottoman
1891 - 209,300 +28,000 in 10 years British
1901 - 237,000 +28,000 in 10 years British
1911 - 274,100 +37,000 in 10 years British
1921 - 310,700 +36,000 in 10 years British
1931 - 348,000 +38,000 in 10 years British
1946 - 450,100 +102,000 in15 years British
1960 - 573,600 +123,000 in14 years British
1973 - 631,800 +58,000 in13 years Cypriot

http://lcweb2.loc.gov/frd/cs/cyprus/cy_appen.html

[Get Real!]

From the Library of Congress

Table 7. Turkish Cypriot Population

1881 = 45,458

Table 5. Population of Cyprus

1881 = 186,200


Using cross-multiplication:

(100 x 45,458) / 186,200 = 24.41% (That’s slightly less than 1/4th)


http://lcweb2.loc.gov/frd/cs/cyprus/cy_appen.html

[insan]

From the Library of Congress

Table 7. Turkish Cypriot Population

1881 = 45,458

Table 5. Population of Cyprus

1881 = 186,200


Using cross-multiplication:

(100 x 45,458) / 186,200 = 24.41% (That’s slightly less than 1/4th)


http://lcweb2.loc.gov/frd/cs/cyprus/cy_appen.html

A GC source cites that 10.000 TCs emigrated right in the begining of British rule(1878). Anyway, if TC administration also have land registry records of TC properties and lands sooner or later they will put them on the table to prove how much land TCs own.

[Get Real!]

From the Library of Congress

Table 7. Turkish Cypriot Population

1881 = 45,458

Table 5. Population of Cyprus

1881 = 186,200


Using cross-multiplication:

(100 x 45,458) / 186,200 = 24.41% (That’s slightly less than 1/4th)


http://lcweb2.loc.gov/frd/cs/cyprus/cy_appen.html

A GC source cites that 10.000 TCs emigrated right in the begining of British rule(1878). Anyway, if TC administration also have land registry records of TC properties and lands sooner or later they will put them on the table to prove how much land TCs own.

Insan unlike the GCs, the Cypriot Ottomans were never the type who would work to buy land!

Don’t you know your people???

[insan]

Since the TCs were offered 25% by the GCs and was not accepted and since the GCs were offered 71% by the TCs and was not accepted I propose (and are you sitting down?) 27%/73% split.

The reply to your proposition has just come through...

Land Ownership by Ethnic Group:

60.9% - Greek/Armenian/Maronite Cypriots
12.3% - Turkish Cypriots
0.5% - Others
26.3% - State/Church Land

Source: Department of Lands and Surveys (refer to Annex 14 in Volume II of the "Memorandum by the Minister of Foreign Affairs of the Republic of Cyprus" submitted to the Foreign Affairs Committee of the House of Commons, 27 February 1987.

http://www.greece.org/cyprus/Maps.htm

Weird... How could 1/3 of the population own just 12.3% of Cyprus? If TCs lost land by emigration then most of the countries should lost their land in same proportion to their emigration rates. So far there's no country on earth that lose it's land in correlation with emigration of it's people.

A third of the population? Don’t you know basic maths?


The last official census for the entire population of Cyprus was conducted in 1960 and resulted in the following figures:

Greek Cypriots: 441,568
Armenians: 3,627
Maronites: 2,706
Turkish Cypriots: 103,822
Others: 24,408

http://countrystudies.us/cyprus/21.htm

But according to the census in 1882, TCs were 1/3 of the Cyprus population and their property owned by Evkaf until 1946 when the TC population decreased 1/5 of the population. Those TCs who emigrated until 1946 couldn't sell their properties but restitute back to Evkaf. So where all the properties of emigrated TCs have gone if they legally restituted their properties to Evkaf before emigrating? Evkaf administration was recognized both during the British Rule and RoC.

From the Library of Congress…



“Table 5. Population of Cyprus, Selected Years, 1491-1973”

Year - Population - Increase - Ruler

1491 - 168,000 ??? Venetian
1575 - 180,000 +12,000 in 84 years Ottoman
1881 - 186,200 +6,200 in 306 years Ottoman
1891 - 209,300 +28,000 in 10 years British
1901 - 237,000 +28,000 in 10 years British
1911 - 274,100 +37,000 in 10 years British
1921 - 310,700 +36,000 in 10 years British
1931 - 348,000 +38,000 in 10 years British
1946 - 450,100 +102,000 in15 years British
1960 - 573,600 +123,000 in14 years British
1973 - 631,800 +58,000 in13 years Cypriot

http://lcweb2.loc.gov/frd/cs/cyprus/cy_appen.html

Population increase during Ottoman rule msut be related with some fatal diseases and earthquakes I guess. Not only GC population but TC population also equally affected.

[insan]

From the Library of Congress

Table 7. Turkish Cypriot Population

1881 = 45,458

Table 5. Population of Cyprus

1881 = 186,200


Using cross-multiplication:

(100 x 45,458) / 186,200 = 24.41% (That’s slightly less than 1/4th)


http://lcweb2.loc.gov/frd/cs/cyprus/cy_appen.html

A GC source cites that 10.000 TCs emigrated right in the begining of British rule(1878). Anyway, if TC administration also have land registry records of TC properties and lands sooner or later they will put them on the table to prove how much land TCs own.

Insan unlike the GCs, the Cypriot Ottomans were never the type who would work to buy land!

Don’t you know your people???

GR, we all know that in the begining of the Ottoman Rule GCs were distributed lands by Ottomans... another fact we all know that during the Ottoman times and under British Rule; until 1946 TCs had no private property ownership. The legal owner of TC property was Evkaf. Under such circumstances, the TCs who emigrated could not sell their properties but restitute back to Evkaf. This means some 10% of TC property and land restituted to Evkaf by emigrated TCs. This is what I'm trying to emphasize.

There might be some TCs sold their lands to GCs and TCs afterwards 1946 when Evkaf law renewed by Brits to allow TCs privately own properties but I don't think TCs sold some 10% of their lands to GCs from 1946 to 1974.