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[B25]

For the sake of argument, let us say that the EU recognises the TRNC as a separate state that is not an EU member. Do you believe that this is in the interests of the Turkish Cypriot people? I do not.

Then direct trade with the outside world, will allow the north to be developed with investment coming in from all over EU and other places. It can only be in their interest.

What have they got to lose?

The final remaining vestiges of their own identity.

Tim, regrettably, they have already lost that, Turkey made sure, the likes of Yfred, Insan, Zan, VP et al are only after keeping their ill gotten gains and nothing to do with the culture or heritage. No matter how many times you try to explain to them, we are just dragons waiting to eat them at the first chance.

The Tcs have been assimilated into Cyprus Turks and now prohibited to use their own dielect, now they know how the Kurds feel in Turkey, it is a systematic process to eliminate them.

Oh well, bye bye boys, been nice knowing you

Considering how much land the roc has stolen from me and not having a single inch of GC land in return, you are the most ignorant, uneducated and stupid GC I have ever come across, you thieving bastard.

This post it toatlly irrelevent to the above and thats just a typical response to I have been had. You know I'm right but you have to respond with rubbish to try an cover it.

Arsehole.

You hold 37% of our land and you complain about yours, pft!

[insan]

For the sake of argument, let us say that the EU recognises the TRNC as a separate state that is not an EU member. Do you believe that this is in the interests of the Turkish Cypriot people? I do not.

Then direct trade with the outside world, will allow the north to be developed with investment coming in from all over EU and other places. It can only be in their interest.

What have they got to lose?

The final remaining vestiges of their own identity.

Tim, preseving our unique Turkic-Cypriot cultural idendity is in our hands. If we teach it to our people and create them opportunities to practice it; no one would be able to "destroy" our cultural idendity. We preserved it under British Rule, though influenced a lot from British cultural idendity but we didn't lose it; to the contrary we enriched it. We also enriched our cultural idendity with the interaction of GC cultural idendity too. For a while wehave been enriching our cultural idendity with the cultural idendity of different cultural idendities of settlers, plus European cultural idendity. I can't understand why u keep considering anything Turkish related as a threat and all other influences not a threat on TC cultural idendity. U r getting it wrong, Tim; IMHO.

The factor that some people ignore is TC emigration and RoT immigration. Yes, if TCs made up the majority of the population of the north of Cyprus they would undoubtedly be able to preserve their identity. However, that is no longer the case. It is not inconceivable that 10 years from now the population of the north of Cyprus will cross the 1 million mark, and at the same time the number of TCs remaining on the island will have fallen below 50,000. That makes a mere 5%. What kind of protest will there then be if the Supreme Broadcasting Board prohibits the use of the TC dialect? None, I would suggest.

I first went to the north of Cyprus in 1992, and went there from Turkey. I was struck then by how different Turkish Cypriot culture was from that of Turkey. Seventeen years later, I do not think that the same degree of difference exists. If you are happy with that, then fine.

Tim, during the British rule TCs were not the majority of Cyprus and from constituting 1/3 of Cyprus population decreased constituting 1/5 of Cyprus population from 1878 to 1960. Neither the emigrated nor the remaining TCs lost their cultural idendity; either in Cyprus or abroad. Even most of the TC families taught their cultural idendity to their children and established cultural organizations to allow their children go and practice their cultural traditions.

Do u consider Cyprus born settler children as having TC cultural idendity or their regional Turkish cultural idendity? In my opinion and according to my observations; overwhelming majority of Cyprus born, settler origin children and even those settlers who settled 30-20 + years ago all dominantly bear the TC cultural idendity that even a native TC can hardly distinguish it. It seems like u only consider native TCs as TC population and this is wrong imo.

As i previously stated and u agreed; supreme broadcasting board don't have a legal authority to prohibit anything. It can only recommend/warn and in case of a violation of any laws; SBB can only punish a program or programer after a court decision.

U r still getting it all wrong, Tim; sorry.

[wallace]

For the sake of argument, let us say that the EU recognises the TRNC as a separate state that is not an EU member. Do you believe that this is in the interests of the Turkish Cypriot people? I do not.

Then direct trade with the outside world, will allow the north to be developed with investment coming in from all over EU and other places. It can only be in their interest.

What have they got to lose?

The final remaining vestiges of their own identity.

Tim, preseving our unique Turkic-Cypriot cultural idendity is in our hands. If we teach it to our people and create them opportunities to practice it; no one would be able to "destroy" our cultural idendity. We preserved it under British Rule, though influenced a lot from British cultural idendity but we didn't lose it; to the contrary we enriched it. We also enriched our cultural idendity with the interaction of GC cultural idendity too. For a while wehave been enriching our cultural idendity with the cultural idendity of different cultural idendities of settlers, plus European cultural idendity. I can't understand why u keep considering anything Turkish related as a threat and all other influences not a threat on TC cultural idendity. U r getting it wrong, Tim; IMHO.

The factor that some people ignore is TC emigration and RoT immigration. Yes, if TCs made up the majority of the population of the north of Cyprus they would undoubtedly be able to preserve their identity. However, that is no longer the case. It is not inconceivable that 10 years from now the population of the north of Cyprus will cross the 1 million mark, and at the same time the number of TCs remaining on the island will have fallen below 50,000. That makes a mere 5%. What kind of protest will there then be if the Supreme Broadcasting Board prohibits the use of the TC dialect? None, I would suggest.

I first went to the north of Cyprus in 1992, and went there from Turkey. I was struck then by how different Turkish Cypriot culture was from that of Turkey. Seventeen years later, I do not think that the same degree of difference exists. If you are happy with that, then fine.

Insan,

You can call it inriching your cultural identity. I call it a war crime and so does the geneva convention. Have a nice day

[Kuruovali]

For the sake of argument, let us say that the EU recognises the TRNC as a separate state that is not an EU member. Do you believe that this is in the interests of the Turkish Cypriot people? I do not.

Then direct trade with the outside world, will allow the north to be developed with investment coming in from all over EU and other places. It can only be in their interest.

What have they got to lose?

The final remaining vestiges of their own identity.

Tim, I think you'll find that this process began way before Turkey intervened in 1974 with the discriminating policies of our Greek Cypriot neighbours.

K

[YFred]

For the sake of argument, let us say that the EU recognises the TRNC as a separate state that is not an EU member. Do you believe that this is in the interests of the Turkish Cypriot people? I do not.

Then direct trade with the outside world, will allow the north to be developed with investment coming in from all over EU and other places. It can only be in their interest.

What have they got to lose?

The final remaining vestiges of their own identity.

Tim, regrettably, they have already lost that, Turkey made sure, the likes of Yfred, Insan, Zan, VP et al are only after keeping their ill gotten gains and nothing to do with the culture or heritage. No matter how many times you try to explain to them, we are just dragons waiting to eat them at the first chance.

The Tcs have been assimilated into Cyprus Turks and now prohibited to use their own dielect, now they know how the Kurds feel in Turkey, it is a systematic process to eliminate them.

Oh well, bye bye boys, been nice knowing you

Considering how much land the roc has stolen from me and not having a single inch of GC land in return, you are the most ignorant, uneducated and stupid GC I have ever come across, you thieving bastard.

This post it toatlly irrelevent to the above and thats just a typical response to I have been had. You know I'm right but you have to respond with rubbish to try an cover it.

Arsehole.

You hold 37% of our land and you complain about yours, pft!

Asshole is what you speak through old boy. You have accused me personally of having stolen GC land. I was merely trying to educate you, but completely forgot that you were karpasian donkey. Essssshhhhhhhek.

BTW get your figures right. TCs do not have 37% of your land. Since when did you have 100% of Cyprus?

[B25]

For the sake of argument, let us say that the EU recognises the TRNC as a separate state that is not an EU member. Do you believe that this is in the interests of the Turkish Cypriot people? I do not.

Then direct trade with the outside world, will allow the north to be developed with investment coming in from all over EU and other places. It can only be in their interest.

What have they got to lose?

The final remaining vestiges of their own identity.

Tim, regrettably, they have already lost that, Turkey made sure, the likes of Yfred, Insan, Zan, VP et al are only after keeping their ill gotten gains and nothing to do with the culture or heritage. No matter how many times you try to explain to them, we are just dragons waiting to eat them at the first chance.

The Tcs have been assimilated into Cyprus Turks and now prohibited to use their own dielect, now they know how the Kurds feel in Turkey, it is a systematic process to eliminate them.

Oh well, bye bye boys, been nice knowing you

Considering how much land the roc has stolen from me and not having a single inch of GC land in return, you are the most ignorant, uneducated and stupid GC I have ever come across, you thieving bastard.

This post it toatlly irrelevent to the above and thats just a typical response to I have been had. You know I'm right but you have to respond with rubbish to try an cover it.

Arsehole.

You hold 37% of our land and you complain about yours, pft!

Asshole is what you speak through old boy. You have accused me personally of having stolen GC land. I was merely trying to educate you, but completely forgot that you were karpasian donkey. Essssshhhhhhhek.

BTW get your figures right. TCs do not have 37% of your land. Since when did you have 100% of Cyprus?

Says the remanent of the first invasion

Cyprus is Greek, don't you forget it, you are just a visitor here and your visiting hours are about to expire.

Bye Bye, shut the door on your way out please, ta!

[Sotos]

Turkey will NEVER be part of EU because Europeans do not want more Muslims who do not share our ideals and our culture. People like you can never understand what democracy means. And don't hope that anybody will recognize your pseudo state. That land belongs to us you are just illegally occupying it. Don't forget you are not Cypriots but Turkish invaders and Turkish Settlers. You are thieves that illegally occupy what is not yours but ours. This is why nobody recognizes the pseudo state you made on our land.

[YFred]

For the sake of argument, let us say that the EU recognises the TRNC as a separate state that is not an EU member. Do you believe that this is in the interests of the Turkish Cypriot people? I do not.

Then direct trade with the outside world, will allow the north to be developed with investment coming in from all over EU and other places. It can only be in their interest.

What have they got to lose?

The final remaining vestiges of their own identity.

Tim, regrettably, they have already lost that, Turkey made sure, the likes of Yfred, Insan, Zan, VP et al are only after keeping their ill gotten gains and nothing to do with the culture or heritage. No matter how many times you try to explain to them, we are just dragons waiting to eat them at the first chance.

The Tcs have been assimilated into Cyprus Turks and now prohibited to use their own dielect, now they know how the Kurds feel in Turkey, it is a systematic process to eliminate them.

Oh well, bye bye boys, been nice knowing you

Considering how much land the roc has stolen from me and not having a single inch of GC land in return, you are the most ignorant, uneducated and stupid GC I have ever come across, you thieving bastard.

This post it toatlly irrelevent to the above and thats just a typical response to I have been had. You know I'm right but you have to respond with rubbish to try an cover it.

Arsehole.

You hold 37% of our land and you complain about yours, pft!

Asshole is what you speak through old boy. You have accused me personally of having stolen GC land. I was merely trying to educate you, but completely forgot that you were karpasian donkey. Essssshhhhhhhek.

BTW get your figures right. TCs do not have 37% of your land. Since when did you have 100% of Cyprus?

Says the remanent of the first invasion

Cyprus is Greek, don't you forget it, you are just a visitor here and your visiting hours are about to expire.

Bye Bye, shut the door on your way out please, ta!

Mavron laoman banosu, boten buise. Bgos ehases se jemis ivrames se. Lamne stanatheman je boci.
Don't you worry your 2 little brain cells now. Don't use both at the same time, it may overheat and explode.

We'll be there to infinity and beyond.

[B25]

For the sake of argument, let us say that the EU recognises the TRNC as a separate state that is not an EU member. Do you believe that this is in the interests of the Turkish Cypriot people? I do not.

Then direct trade with the outside world, will allow the north to be developed with investment coming in from all over EU and other places. It can only be in their interest.

What have they got to lose?

The final remaining vestiges of their own identity.

Tim, regrettably, they have already lost that, Turkey made sure, the likes of Yfred, Insan, Zan, VP et al are only after keeping their ill gotten gains and nothing to do with the culture or heritage. No matter how many times you try to explain to them, we are just dragons waiting to eat them at the first chance.

The Tcs have been assimilated into Cyprus Turks and now prohibited to use their own dielect, now they know how the Kurds feel in Turkey, it is a systematic process to eliminate them.

Oh well, bye bye boys, been nice knowing you

Considering how much land the roc has stolen from me and not having a single inch of GC land in return, you are the most ignorant, uneducated and stupid GC I have ever come across, you thieving bastard.

This post it toatlly irrelevent to the above and thats just a typical response to I have been had. You know I'm right but you have to respond with rubbish to try an cover it.

Arsehole.

You hold 37% of our land and you complain about yours, pft!

Asshole is what you speak through old boy. You have accused me personally of having stolen GC land. I was merely trying to educate you, but completely forgot that you were karpasian donkey. Essssshhhhhhhek.

BTW get your figures right. TCs do not have 37% of your land. Since when did you have 100% of Cyprus?

Says the remanent of the first invasion

Cyprus is Greek, don't you forget it, you are just a visitor here and your visiting hours are about to expire.

Bye Bye, shut the door on your way out please, ta!

Mavron laoman banosu, boten buise. Bgos ehases se jemis ivrames se. Lamne stanatheman je boci.
Don't you worry your 2 little brain cells now. Don't use both at the same time, it may overheat and explode.

We'll be there to infinity and beyond.

Yfred, your GREEK CYPRIOT dielect really cracks me up

But not to worry, I carry the Amatopetra to ward off any curses you make, they bounce straight back at you.

I got a headache today, maybe one of the brain cells is packing up

You must try harder, my lttle TMT soldier

[halil]

For the sake of argument, let us say that the EU recognises the TRNC as a separate state that is not an EU member. Do you believe that this is in the interests of the Turkish Cypriot people? I do not.

Then direct trade with the outside world, will allow the north to be developed with investment coming in from all over EU and other places. It can only be in their interest.

What have they got to lose?

The final remaining vestiges of their own identity.

Tim, preseving our unique Turkic-Cypriot cultural idendity is in our hands. If we teach it to our people and create them opportunities to practice it; no one would be able to "destroy" our cultural idendity. We preserved it under British Rule, though influenced a lot from British cultural idendity but we didn't lose it; to the contrary we enriched it. We also enriched our cultural idendity with the interaction of GC cultural idendity too. For a while wehave been enriching our cultural idendity with the cultural idendity of different cultural idendities of settlers, plus European cultural idendity. I can't understand why u keep considering anything Turkish related as a threat and all other influences not a threat on TC cultural idendity. U r getting it wrong, Tim; IMHO.

The factor that some people ignore is TC emigration and RoT immigration. Yes, if TCs made up the majority of the population of the north of Cyprus they would undoubtedly be able to preserve their identity. However, that is no longer the case. It is not inconceivable that 10 years from now the population of the north of Cyprus will cross the 1 million mark, and at the same time the number of TCs remaining on the island will have fallen below 50,000. That makes a mere 5%. What kind of protest will there then be if the Supreme Broadcasting Board prohibits the use of the TC dialect? None, I would suggest.

I first went to the north of Cyprus in 1992, and went there from Turkey. I was struck then by how different Turkish Cypriot culture was from that of Turkey. Seventeen years later, I do not think that the same degree of difference exists. If you are happy with that, then fine.

Tim ,
pls read latest Supreme Broadcasting board words about Turkish Cypriot dialect and inform forum members what they are saying.

http://www.yeniduzen.com/detay.asp?a=13150&z=3#

As Insan pointing out no one can get rid off our culture from us . About it all TC's can united very easily .I am sure u are following our press and u understand very well ........from left to right what they said about it .

be comfortable Tim .......If everything solved out in Cyprus lots of TC's will return back and our population will increase again with this unknowns people are always looking for better lifes.

Why lots of people are coming to north from Turkey ? Because living standards and jobs are better than their own country .Why our people are goes away ? to get better life ....... and so on .......Why they gets ROC ID cards ? to travel without problem and get better life in UK or rest of the EU countries but when everything normalised they will all return back ...these are all related with Cyprus problem ....