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Postby cymart » Tue Oct 13, 2009 10:53 pm

Todays Cyprus Mail had a very interesting report on their recent visit and contacts here:
Amongst other things they stressed the need for serious results before the elections in the north next April,otherwise there is a serious risk that Eroglu will be elected.
There is a need for both sides to understand the benefits of a compromise and their leaders need to sell this to their people.
Turkey cannot be excluded from the efforts to find a solution because it holds vital trump cards on guarantees and the question of withdrawing the occupying army etc.
The tirade against Alexander Downer by using stolen confidential documents is a very bad reflection on the people responsible and does not help the reputation of the Cyprus Government internationally-furthermore it is a violation of diplomatic protocol!

This group has always done its utmost to support Cyprus and includes inflential people such as Andrew Dismore M.P. who has many Cypriots among his constituents.

I don't see how any reasonable and logical person could complain about their objective and unbiased report.
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Re: British friends of Cyprus group

Postby Get Real! » Tue Oct 13, 2009 10:57 pm

cymart wrote:The tirade against Alexander Downer by using stolen confidential documents is a very bad reflection on the people responsible and does not help the reputation of the Cyprus Government internationally-furthermore it is a violation of diplomatic protocol!

What about the content of those confidential documents? :?

Do you think that's important? :lol:
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The principle is what matters

Postby cymart » Tue Oct 13, 2009 11:06 pm

But in any case all diplomats send information confidentially about the countries they are posted to as part of their duties and in this case he is was right that there are people in DIKO,EDEK and the media who are opposed to the compromise solution which the government and the two majority parties support!
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Re: The principle is what matters

Postby Get Real! » Tue Oct 13, 2009 11:10 pm

cymart wrote:But in any case all diplomats send information confidentially about the countries they are posted to as part of their duties

You haven’t answered the question but of course you don’t have to.

...and in this case he is was right that there are people in DIKO,EDEK and the media who are opposed to the compromise solution which the government and the two majority parties support!

But isn't that the very essence of the disagreement? :?

ie: What constitutes a "compromise solution"?
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Postby humanist » Tue Oct 13, 2009 11:22 pm

Downer is nothing but a racist fascist little stooge to a racist prime minister ....... doubt if he comes up with a fair solution
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Re: The principle is what matters

Postby bill cobbett » Tue Oct 13, 2009 11:33 pm

Get Real! wrote:
cymart wrote:But in any case all diplomats send information confidentially about the countries they are posted to as part of their duties

You haven’t answered the question but of course you don’t have to.

...and in this case he is was right that there are people in DIKO,EDEK and the media who are opposed to the compromise solution which the government and the two majority parties support!

But isn't that the very essence of the disagreement? :?

ie: What constitutes a "compromise solution"?


The "compromise" is the BBF. It's been there since

The good people of the Republic have made a very, very major compromise with this.
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Postby Viewpoint » Tue Oct 13, 2009 11:58 pm

Why are all the negotiators "bad guys" to the GCs? They slag everyone off that doesnt support them 100%.
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Postby Get Real! » Wed Oct 14, 2009 1:04 am

Viewpoint wrote:Why are all the negotiators "bad guys" to the GCs? They slag everyone off that doesnt support them 100%.

Because carving up Cyprus in any configuration contravenes international law that protects her sovereignty and territorial integrity.
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A good question....

Postby cymart » Wed Oct 14, 2009 11:46 am

Some of the G.C. politicians always insist that any solution must be found via the U.N. etc. but if anyone dares to come here and say anything that is not 100% in agreement with what they believe is right,they turn against them,just as they did against Downer and so many other U.N. representatives in the past.
The problem seems to stem from a misconception of how effective the U.N. is when it comes to implementing the resolutions it passes-as we all know,larger and powerful countries always get more than small and weaker ones but some of the Cypriots just cannot understand that and behave as if this island is the centre of the world,and that whatever they say is right and therefore everyone else should agree with them!They repeat the same mistakes,over and over again and then try to blame everyone else for their own short-sightedness and failings!
Many other political commentators and politicians here have tried to tell them this before on so many occasions but it is like talking to a brick wall...
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Re: A good question....

Postby Get Real! » Wed Oct 14, 2009 12:00 pm

cymart wrote:...larger and powerful countries always get more than small and weaker ones but some of the Cypriots just cannot understand that and behave as if this island is the centre of the world,and that whatever they say is right and therefore everyone else should agree with them!

So how do you think Cypriots should behave? Something like this perhaps…

1. Accept that UN justice is only valid for some.

2. Regard Cyprus as the LEAST significant country in the world.

3. Assume that everything they say is wrong.

4. Expect that nobody will agree with them.

You like? :)

They repeat the same mistakes,over and over again and then try to blame everyone else for their own short-sightedness and failings!
Many other political commentators and politicians here have tried to tell them this before on so many occasions but it is like talking to a brick wall...

So if they start acting like I've described above, how soon can you guarantee the territorial integrity of Cyprus and can you get that in writing for them?
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