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[Nikitas]

VP,

No one is asking you to go under a GC ruled system. That is why BBF has been the only line taken by all parties since 1977. What you are trying hard not to understand is that the growing wave of settlers makes BBF increasingly harder to accept. There is one HUGE difference between BBF with TCs and BBF with Turks. A difference which is apparent to many TC politicians, trades union members and commentators. So it is not just us GCs that find colonisation objectionable.

[Viewpoint]

VP,

No one is asking you to go under a GC ruled system. That is why BBF has been the only line taken by all parties since 1977. What you are trying hard not to understand is that the growing wave of settlers makes BBF increasingly harder to accept. There is one HUGE difference between BBF with TCs and BBF with Turks. A difference which is apparent to many TC politicians, trades union members and commentators. So it is not just us GCs that find colonisation objectionable.

Thats why we are saying to you but you choose to ignore that time is not working in your favor if no solution is found there will be even more new wave Turkish settlers in the north and then you will be the ones demanding partition as if you still demand what you do today you will be numbered and in the minority yourselves, thats when you will be in trouble not today when you have TCs who have a history in common with you and are flexible on the settlers issue , where we cannot show the same flexiblity is power sharing under a BBF, we do not want to be forced in to minority status ruled by GCs we want an effective say in our futures and our own area to administer where we will not feel threatened.

[wallace]

Nikitas and Lit, I asked a civil question regarding that article. The answers you gave me indicate that both of you are anything BUT civil.

Is this civil enough for you????
http://www.icrc.org/web/eng/siteeng0.ns ... onventions

Now piss off with your propagande articles!

Sounds to me like that article may have some truth to it, judging from the vehemence of the replies against me. In case you missed it, all I did was ask if there was any truth to it. Instead of straight analytical comments, I got accused of fully supporting the article and a lot of accusatory abuse. So, either you people misjudged my question (which makes it stupidity), or the old adage "the truth hurts" came into play (which makes it vindictiveness). It doesn't seem to me to be a third possibility here...

And the question was??? It seems that you allready decided that there is some truth to it reading your response now! There is only one truth that comes into play in the cyprus question. International laws, the geneva convention and all UN resolutions are neglected by the people you support on this forum. Anyone with a decent way of thinking and recognising international laws etc. and reading your posts would call you an idiot. So again.....piss off and mind your own business. Your son has nothing to do with this topic. Have a nice day.

[humanist]

VP your an intelligent person, go find out ......... not else I can say that some TC's will not support settler run business, particularly in Kerinia

[bigOz]

Nikitas and Lit, I asked a civil question regarding that article. The answers you gave me indicate that both of you are anything BUT civil.

Is this civil enough for you????
http://www.icrc.org/web/eng/siteeng0.ns ... onventions

Now piss off with your propagande articles!

Sounds to me like that article may have some truth to it, judging from the vehemence of the replies against me. In case you missed it, all I did was ask if there was any truth to it. Instead of straight analytical comments, I got accused of fully supporting the article and a lot of accusatory abuse. So, either you people misjudged my question (which makes it stupidity), or the old adage "the truth hurts" came into play (which makes it vindictiveness). It doesn't seem to me to be a third possibility here...

And the question was??? It seems that you already decided that there is some truth to it reading your response now! There is only one truth that comes into play in the cyprus question. International laws, the Geneva convention and all UN resolutions are neglected by the people you support on this forum. Anyone with a decent way of thinking and recognising international laws etc. and reading your posts would call you an idiot. So again.....piss off and mind your own business. Your son has nothing to do with this topic. Have a nice day.

And what the fuck has Geneva conventions to do with Turkish settlers? I can name at least 3 of the articles broken on many occasions by the GC EOKA-B between 1963-1974!

As for mainland Turkish settlers - they are merely replacing (to our disgust as well!) those TCs who would have been part of this population had they not emigrated to UK, USA, Australia and even Turkey itself!

The TC population has hardly increased since 1963 - whilst the GC population has doubled (and that includes the systematic importation of mainland Greek settlers between 1967 and 1974 into South). Work that one out then!

All you flucking people do is cry wolf when the process reverses. Well this fucking world and this fucking island was not a gift for the Greeks to do as they please. Had they not tried to erase the ethnic Turks from Cyprus - an aim often repeated by the GC leaders of the time including Makarios - perhaps we would not have been in this situation in the first place!

For two years in this forum I kept saying "embargoes will only hurt TCs and do nothing to Turkey" to no avail. Now the GCs are too worried about the settlers BUT are still vindictive against TCs as ever by trying to protest/block anything in economic or political sense that may help TCs stand on their own feet and MAYBE stop leaving the island!

I tell you what mate! The architects of this situation and their supporters can all fuck off instead, because I feel strongly, it is already too late to reverse the process - all the abuse in these forums will get you jack-shit!

[Expatkiwi]

And the question was??? It seems that you allready decided that there is some truth to it reading your response now! There is only one truth that comes into play in the cyprus question. International laws, the geneva convention and all UN resolutions are neglected by the people you support on this forum. Anyone with a decent way of thinking and recognising international laws etc. and reading your posts would call you an idiot. So again.....piss off and mind your own business. Your son has nothing to do with this topic. Have a nice day.

As long as this forum is open to the public, I'll exercise my right to air my opinions on it. As you don't own the forum, I'll respond to your demand by telling you where you can stick it. The major difference between me and you is simple: I believe that the Turkish Cypriots are human beings.

[wallace]

Nikitas and Lit, I asked a civil question regarding that article. The answers you gave me indicate that both of you are anything BUT civil.

Is this civil enough for you????
http://www.icrc.org/web/eng/siteeng0.ns ... onventions

Now piss off with your propagande articles!

Sounds to me like that article may have some truth to it, judging from the vehemence of the replies against me. In case you missed it, all I did was ask if there was any truth to it. Instead of straight analytical comments, I got accused of fully supporting the article and a lot of accusatory abuse. So, either you people misjudged my question (which makes it stupidity), or the old adage "the truth hurts" came into play (which makes it vindictiveness). It doesn't seem to me to be a third possibility here...

And the question was??? It seems that you already decided that there is some truth to it reading your response now! There is only one truth that comes into play in the cyprus question. International laws, the Geneva convention and all UN resolutions are neglected by the people you support on this forum. Anyone with a decent way of thinking and recognising international laws etc. and reading your posts would call you an idiot. So again.....piss off and mind your own business. Your son has nothing to do with this topic. Have a nice day.

And what the fuck has Geneva conventions to do with Turkish settlers? I can name at least 3 of the articles broken on many occasions by the GC EOKA-B between 1963-1974!

As for mainland Turkish settlers - they are merely replacing (to our disgust as well!) those TCs who would have been part of this population had they not emigrated to UK, USA, Australia and even Turkey itself!

The TC population has hardly increased since 1963 - whilst the GC population has doubled (and that includes the systematic importation of mainland Greek settlers between 1967 and 1974 into South). Work that one out then!

All you flucking people do is cry wolf when the process reverses. Well this fucking world and this fucking island was not a gift for the Greeks to do as they please. Had they not tried to erase the ethnic Turks from Cyprus - an aim often repeated by the GC leaders of the time including Makarios - perhaps we would not have been in this situation in the first place!

For two years in this forum I kept saying "embargoes will only hurt TCs and do nothing to Turkey" to no avail. Now the GCs are too worried about the settlers BUT are still vindictive against TCs as ever by trying to protest/block anything in economic or political sense that may help TCs stand on their own feet and MAYBE stop leaving the island!

I tell you what mate! The architects of this situation and their supporters can all fuck off instead, because I feel strongly, it is already too late to reverse the process - all the abuse in these forums will get you jack-shit!

Why don't you read the geneva conventions first mate...then you will see what they have to do with the settlers. I have nothing against TC's....I believe they have as much and the SAME (no more and no less) rights as the GC's on this small island as I have stated before. I only have issues with the ones that keep on referring to the past to excuse the invasion and the occupation of this island! Half of your so called minority have RoC passports so in my view they are not embargoed. You now so called Turks of Cyprus got screwed by your own motherland. I wonder how much time it will take for you people to aknowledge this. Have a nice day

[wallace]

And the question was??? It seems that you allready decided that there is some truth to it reading your response now! There is only one truth that comes into play in the cyprus question. International laws, the geneva convention and all UN resolutions are neglected by the people you support on this forum. Anyone with a decent way of thinking and recognising international laws etc. and reading your posts would call you an idiot. So again.....piss off and mind your own business. Your son has nothing to do with this topic. Have a nice day.

As long as this forum is open to the public, I'll exercise my right to air my opinions on it. As you don't own the forum, I'll respond to your demand by telling you where you can stick it. The major difference between me and you is simple: I believe that the Turkish Cypriots are human beings.

And were did I ever state that the Turkish Cypriots are not human beings idiot? You have every right to air your opinion. I dont know who will take you serieus but that's another question. I will not. The only thing I have seen you post is turkish propaganda The only demand I have is that bloody foreigners stick to their own business! We've seen in the past what these foreign inventions have done to the island of Cyprus. Now go and interfere with the minorities in NZ or America....where ever you're from. Even there I have my doubts about you looking at several of your posts. Also to you.....have a nice day

[Nikitas]

VP, some of us keep up with the news-

Christofias BEFORE the start of the talks with Talat, showed flexibility by saying that 50 000 settlers would stay. A statement that caused furore in the GC community.

Talat has said nothing, and Erdogan at the UN told Christofias that the settlers are no problems sinc they are citizens of the TRNC.

So your statement "TCs who have a history in common with you and are flexible on the settlers issue ," is not exactly accurate. The only one showing flexibility on the issue is Christofias.

[Get Real!]

And what the fuck has Geneva conventions to do with Turkish settlers?

This...

http://thecyprusproblem.100webspace.net ... icle19.htm