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[Jerry]

I always thought that it was universally accepted that some Turkish Cypriots are in fact Greek Orthodox converts, hasn't it been scientifically demonstrated that many in both communities share the same genes, how could they ever be called settlers?

Jerry, are you accusing me of not being a TC?

Could be, you could even be a descendant of Julius Caesar. I knew a TC from Lourinjina (?) who spoke Greek so well that a GC friend of mine could not tell what he was. To me the saddest thing about this whole business is that many GCs and TCs share the same blood.

That is how a racist would think. Human Rights do not distinguish according to "bloodlines". The crime is against the Human NOT his blood-type! It is only the Turks who have racially, ethnically cleansed by thinking along those lines and such "excuses" should not be allowed to be perpetuated any longer...

What a twisted logic! A racist is someone like you who makes derogatory remarks about a person simply because of his/her race.

[Piratis]

I always thought that it was universally accepted that some Turkish Cypriots are in fact Greek Orthodox converts, hasn't it been scientifically demonstrated that many in both communities share the same genes, how could they ever be called settlers?

Jerry, are you accusing me of not being a TC?

Could be, you could even be a descendant of Julius Caesar. I knew a TC from Lourinjina (?) who spoke Greek so well that a GC friend of mine could not tell what he was. To me the saddest thing about this whole business is that many GCs and TCs share the same blood.

Even sadder fact is that a distant cousin converted back christianity and joined Eoka.

Why is fighting to liberate Cyprus from foreign colonialists something "sad"? That is a view that only a foreigner who has interests in keeping Cyprus enslaved can have.

[Paphitis]

I always thought that it was universally accepted that some Turkish Cypriots are in fact Greek Orthodox converts, hasn't it been scientifically demonstrated that many in both communities share the same genes, how could they ever be called settlers?

Jerry, are you accusing me of not being a TC?

Could be, you could even be a descendant of Julius Caesar. I knew a TC from Lourinjina (?) who spoke Greek so well that a GC friend of mine could not tell what he was. To me the saddest thing about this whole business is that many GCs and TCs share the same blood.

That is how a racist would think. Human Rights do not distinguish according to "bloodlines". The crime is against the Human NOT his blood-type! It is only the Turks who have racially, ethnically cleansed by thinking along those lines and such "excuses" should not be allowed to be perpetuated any longer...

What a twisted logic! A racist is someone like you who makes derogatory remarks about a person simply because of his/her race.

She was referring to the fact that racists are those who differentiate based on Genetics. This is what the Nazis did in WW2.

Judging by your earlier post, Oracle is quite correct to class you as a potential racist.

You did state:

To me the saddest thing about this whole business is that many GCs and TCs share the same blood.

[Paphitis]

I always thought that it was universally accepted that some Turkish Cypriots are in fact Greek Orthodox converts, hasn't it been scientifically demonstrated that many in both communities share the same genes, how could they ever be called settlers?

Jerry, are you accusing me of not being a TC?

Could be, you could even be a descendant of Julius Caesar. I knew a TC from Lourinjina (?) who spoke Greek so well that a GC friend of mine could not tell what he was. To me the saddest thing about this whole business is that many GCs and TCs share the same blood.

Even sadder fact is that a distant cousin converted back christianity and joined Eoka.

Your cousin must be commended for fighting for RoC independence.

He is truly a hero, and you should be proud!

[Piratis]

Deniz, I never said that TCs are not Cypriots. What I am saying is that Turkey in the 21st century can not use the methods that Ottomans used in the middle ages to expand their empire.

But I will also agree with Oracle that TCs don't seem to be interested to be Cypriots. They seem to prefer to be something separate.

Until the 1950s most TCs spoke Greek. Some TCs even had Greek as their main language. Don't you think that it is perfectly natural for a minority to speak the language of the majority? You are a TC but you live in a place where English is the most used language, so you learned English. Is there something wrong with that? Do you think that the Greek or Kurdish minorities who live in Turkey don't know how to speak Turkish? Of course they do!

Unfortunately the TC leadership and Turkey did everything possible for stopping TCs from integrating with the rest of the Cypriot people, and they used force to reverse the process of integration by prohibiting from TCs to speak Greek.

[Oracle]

I always thought that it was universally accepted that some Turkish Cypriots are in fact Greek Orthodox converts, hasn't it been scientifically demonstrated that many in both communities share the same genes, how could they ever be called settlers?

Jerry, are you accusing me of not being a TC?

Could be, you could even be a descendant of Julius Caesar. I knew a TC from Lourinjina (?) who spoke Greek so well that a GC friend of mine could not tell what he was. To me the saddest thing about this whole business is that many GCs and TCs share the same blood.

That is how a racist would think. Human Rights do not distinguish according to "bloodlines". The crime is against the Human NOT his blood-type! It is only the Turks who have racially, ethnically cleansed by thinking along those lines and such "excuses" should not be allowed to be perpetuated any longer...

What a twisted logic! A racist is someone like you who makes derogatory remarks about a person simply because of his/her race.

Not twisted, but direct! If you think sharing a "bloodline" allows greater privileges (by being "saddest" when overlooked) than any actual respect of a person purely for unquestionable human rights; then you have to address your views. As for mine, I hate only the Turks for their behaviour in violating human rights and racially ethnically cleansing half of Cyprus ... If you think that is racist then it is further proof you are twisted!

[YFred]

I always thought that it was universally accepted that some Turkish Cypriots are in fact Greek Orthodox converts, hasn't it been scientifically demonstrated that many in both communities share the same genes, how could they ever be called settlers?

Jerry, are you accusing me of not being a TC?

Could be, you could even be a descendant of Julius Caesar. I knew a TC from Lourinjina (?) who spoke Greek so well that a GC friend of mine could not tell what he was. To me the saddest thing about this whole business is that many GCs and TCs share the same blood.

Even sadder fact is that a distant cousin converted back christianity and joined Eoka.

Your cousin must be commended for fighting for RoC independence.

He is truly a hero, and you should be proud!

One of my brothers went looking for him few years back, and he refused to meet him.

Surely you meant to say condemned.

[Jerry]

I always thought that it was universally accepted that some Turkish Cypriots are in fact Greek Orthodox converts, hasn't it been scientifically demonstrated that many in both communities share the same genes, how could they ever be called settlers?

Jerry, are you accusing me of not being a TC?

Could be, you could even be a descendant of Julius Caesar. I knew a TC from Lourinjina (?) who spoke Greek so well that a GC friend of mine could not tell what he was. To me the saddest thing about this whole business is that many GCs and TCs share the same blood.

That is how a racist would think. Human Rights do not distinguish according to "bloodlines". The crime is against the Human NOT his blood-type! It is only the Turks who have racially, ethnically cleansed by thinking along those lines and such "excuses" should not be allowed to be perpetuated any longer...

What a twisted logic! A racist is someone like you who makes derogatory remarks about a person simply because of his/her race.

She was referring to the fact that racists are those who differentiate based on Genetics. This is what the Nazis did in WW2.

Judging by your earlier post, Oracle is quite correct to class you as a potential racist.

You did state:

To me the saddest thing about this whole business is that many GCs and TCs share the same blood.

Bollocks Paphitis, more twisted logic. One race has joined the other, brother could be fighting brother and you say I'm a racist for finding that sad.

[Jerry]

I always thought that it was universally accepted that some Turkish Cypriots are in fact Greek Orthodox converts, hasn't it been scientifically demonstrated that many in both communities share the same genes, how could they ever be called settlers?

Jerry, are you accusing me of not being a TC?

Could be, you could even be a descendant of Julius Caesar. I knew a TC from Lourinjina (?) who spoke Greek so well that a GC friend of mine could not tell what he was. To me the saddest thing about this whole business is that many GCs and TCs share the same blood.

That is how a racist would think. Human Rights do not distinguish according to "bloodlines". The crime is against the Human NOT his blood-type! It is only the Turks who have racially, ethnically cleansed by thinking along those lines and such "excuses" should not be allowed to be perpetuated any longer...

What a twisted logic! A racist is someone like you who makes derogatory remarks about a person simply because of his/her race.

Not twisted, but direct! If you think sharing a "bloodline" allows greater privileges (by being "saddest" when overlooked) than any actual respect of a person purely for unquestionable human rights; then you have to address your views. As for mine, I hate only the Turks for their behaviour in violating human rights and racially ethnically cleansing half of Cyprus ... If you think that is racist then it is further proof you are twisted!

Oh, you are far too clever for me. Tell me, do you hate all Turks, some Turks or do you in fact mean Turkish Goverments and what they have done to Cyprus?

[Oracle]

I always thought that it was universally accepted that some Turkish Cypriots are in fact Greek Orthodox converts, hasn't it been scientifically demonstrated that many in both communities share the same genes, how could they ever be called settlers?

Jerry, are you accusing me of not being a TC?

Could be, you could even be a descendant of Julius Caesar. I knew a TC from Lourinjina (?) who spoke Greek so well that a GC friend of mine could not tell what he was. To me the saddest thing about this whole business is that many GCs and TCs share the same blood.

That is how a racist would think. Human Rights do not distinguish according to "bloodlines". The crime is against the Human NOT his blood-type! It is only the Turks who have racially, ethnically cleansed by thinking along those lines and such "excuses" should not be allowed to be perpetuated any longer...

What a twisted logic! A racist is someone like you who makes derogatory remarks about a person simply because of his/her race.

She was referring to the fact that racists are those who differentiate based on Genetics. This is what the Nazis did in WW2.

Judging by your earlier post, Oracle is quite correct to class you as a potential racist.

You did state:

To me the saddest thing about this whole business is that many GCs and TCs share the same blood.

Bollocks Paphitis, more twisted logic. One race has joined the other, brother could be fighting brother and you say I'm a racist for finding that sad.

Now you are getting pathetic.

The GCs were fighting the invading Turkish Army purely for survival. The Turkish Army slaughtered thousands of GCs. How did the Turkish invaders transform into your "brothers"? And if they were your "brothers" are they to be excused of Human Rights violations ... simply because of their "blood"?

Your logic is flawed ...