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Postby cannedmoose » Mon Jul 11, 2005 4:24 pm

There is a great deal of truth in what Anglo says. Most people in the UK know nothing about the Cyprus problem, in this country Cyprus is just another place in the travel agent's window - many even think that Ayia Napa is a Greek island rather than located in Cyprus. In London the GC community tend to vote labour and in seats where there is a large concentration of GCs (I believe there are 4 parliamentary seats in London in which GCs determine the balance of power), Labour are invariably returned to office. As the Labour mayor of London, Ken Livingstone therefore has a greater interest in nurturing this section of the community than the lesser numbers of TCs. As was evidenced by the poor showing at the TRNC march in London, the TCs are not a vocal population, whereas the GCs are very active in local politics. Therefore, for Ken, the choice was clear.
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Postby gabaston » Mon Jul 11, 2005 10:16 pm

look i aint arguing the rights n wrongs of the adverts, right???
i just asked if anyone knew the outcone of the trial.

anglo and moosey have said it all.

oh by the way it was only the gc londoners who were offended, nobody else.
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Postby Kifeas » Mon Jul 11, 2005 10:33 pm

cannedmoose wrote:There is a great deal of truth in what Anglo says. Most people in the UK know nothing about the Cyprus problem, in this country Cyprus is just another place in the travel agent's window - many even think that Ayia Napa is a Greek island rather than located in Cyprus. In London the GC community tend to vote labour and in seats where there is a large concentration of GCs (I believe there are 4 parliamentary seats in London in which GCs determine the balance of power), Labour are invariably returned to office. As the Labour mayor of London, Ken Livingstone therefore has a greater interest in nurturing this section of the community than the lesser numbers of TCs. As was evidenced by the poor showing at the TRNC march in London, the TCs are not a vocal population, whereas the GCs are very active in local politics. Therefore, for Ken, the choice was clear.


Apparently, the fact that a great deal (the vast majority,) of the tourist establishments in the occupied “North” Cyprus are practically stolen GC properties and consequently, any direct or indirect advertising equates to an act of accepting stolen goods (a criminal offence by most national laws,) means absolutely nothing to you to comment upon. You are only concerned and therefore concentrate your comments only on the hypothetical politically motivated act of banning such adverts by the mayor of London and you are also trying to explain it in a “logical” sense.

Of course! :)
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Postby brother » Mon Jul 11, 2005 10:38 pm

Kifeas wrote
Apparently, the fact that a great deal (the vast majority,) of the tourist establishments in the occupied “North” Cyprus are practically stolen GC properties and consequently, any direct or indirect advertising equates to an act of accepting stolen goods (a criminal offence by most national laws,) means absolutely nothing to you to comment upon. You are only concerned and therefore concentrate your comments only on the hypothetical politically motivated act of banning such adverts by the mayor of London and you are also trying to explain it in a “logical” sense.

Of course!


So according to you then all the GC that are currently occupying and using TC lands and buildings (however small or large is happening) in the south is accepting stolen goods and because there is no ambargoes has been profiting from this for over 30 years, it seems to me you are the ones accepting this.
Wether recognised or not the principle is exactley the same.
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Postby suetoniuspaulinus » Mon Jul 11, 2005 10:44 pm

Gentlemen

Take Larnaca airport for example.
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Postby Kifeas » Mon Jul 11, 2005 11:43 pm

brother wrote:Kifeas wrote
Apparently, the fact that a great deal (the vast majority,) of the tourist establishments in the occupied “North” Cyprus are practically stolen GC properties and consequently, any direct or indirect advertising equates to an act of accepting stolen goods (a criminal offence by most national laws,) means absolutely nothing to you to comment upon. You are only concerned and therefore concentrate your comments only on the hypothetical politically motivated act of banning such adverts by the mayor of London and you are also trying to explain it in a “logical” sense.

Of course!


So according to you then all the GC that are currently occupying and using TC lands and buildings (however small or large is happening) in the south is accepting stolen goods and because there is no ambargoes has been profiting from this for over 30 years, it seems to me you are the ones accepting this.
Wether recognised or not the principle is exactley the same.


I have 9 donums of land with lemon trees in Lapithos in which some villas, already sold to some British, are currently being constructed. My mother has 5 donums of land at the 6th Mile west of Kyrenia (next to Zephyros –Merit hotel) where a hotel apartment complex was constructed. Ever since 1974, I have never been given even one single donum of TC land in the south, in order to grow just few tomatoes.

What is my property in the north doing and why couldn’t I use it to harvest the lemons or build the villas and the hotel my self? For me it is just stolen land and anyone using it, exploiting it or selling it, and anyone accepting the spoils of this theft, is just committing the same crime.
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Postby Viewpoint » Tue Jul 12, 2005 1:01 am

same old story land land land land property property property is that all you can say change the record for gods sake, the only way you will get your land back or in your case compensation is if we find a solution so lobby your leaders to get a move on and do something to reach a solution.
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Postby Anglo » Tue Jul 12, 2005 10:29 am

gabaston wrote:look i aint arguing the rights n wrongs of the adverts, right???
i just asked if anyone knew the outcone of the trial.

anglo and moosey have said it all.

oh by the way it was only the gc londoners who were offended, nobody else.


In answer to your original question Gabaston: seems that the results of the High Court hearing are not yet ready. But this link might be of interest as it is in the general context of our discussion: http://londra.kibrispostasi.com/?newsid ... tegory=119
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Postby magikthrill » Tue Jul 12, 2005 4:54 pm

Anglo wrote:This is contrary to what Magikthrill would have us believe - that people have weighed the information, come to a moral conclusion and then applied pressure on their elected representatives.


Im guessing reading between the liens is not very much your thing is it anglo?

I was referring to the GC londoners. I think it is redundant to assume that londoners are aware of any political situation (aside from the recent bombings) let alone the Cyprus issue.
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Postby cannedmoose » Tue Jul 12, 2005 5:35 pm

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