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[Expatkiwi]

Here's another "accurate" map. The World as seen by Americans ....

Hey! We Americans totally resemble that insinuation! Oops, I meant RESENT that insinuation...

[barouti]

Hey! We Americans totally resemble that insinuation! Oops, I meant RESENT that insinuation...

So now you're an American? But yep, it is a well know fact most Americans are clueless to the world beyond...beyond...well, beyond their street block.

So tell me sir, you seem to be passionate about the so-called TRNC becoming an independent nation though 1) the Anatolian peasants out number them, and 2) the TC's themselves actually want union with "mother" Turkey.

But do you feel just as passionate about the Bosnian Serbs wanting independence, or Transdniester, or what about Nagorno-Karabahk and South Ossetia? And of course Kurdistan! And do you also go into the relevant forums and endorse these movements?

[Expatkiwi]

Hey! We Americans totally resemble that insinuation! Oops, I meant RESENT that insinuation...

So now you're an American? But yep, it is a well know fact most Americans are clueless to the world beyond...beyond...well, beyond their street block.

So tell me sir, you seem to be passionate about the so-called TRNC becoming an independent nation though 1) the Anatolian peasants out number them, and 2) the TC's themselves actually want union with "mother" Turkey.

But do you feel just as passionate about the Bosnian Serbs wanting independence, or Transdniester, or what about Nagorno-Karabahk and South Ossetia? And of course Kurdistan! And do you also go into the relevant forums and endorse these movements?

Okayyyy..... Firstly, I'm a naturalized United States citizen, though I still retain my NZ passport. Next, I am passionate about the TRNC being independent as the Turkish Cypriots could not expect fair treatment from the Greek Cypriot majority, given the past "problems". But I am just as passionate about opposing any annexation of the TRNC by Turkey.
Now, as I support the principle of self-determination, that means that if the Bosnian Serbs want full independence for Republika Sprska, I would not oppose it (though annexation of this by Serbia is - as far as I'm concerned - a no-no). The same goes for Transdnistra, Nagorno-Karabakh, Somaliland, Abkhazia, and South Ossetia.

[Expatkiwi]

And also Kurdistan.

[B25]

@expatkiwi,

you may be a natrualised uS citizen with a NZ passport, but you are also a Turk, yes?

otherwise your bias is very unusual to support an arbitary pseudo state, just because you think they have been hard done by.

Don't you think the GCs have been harder done by and paid the price??

[Expatkiwi]

@expatkiwi,

you may be a natrualised uS citizen with a NZ passport, but you are also a Turk, yes?

otherwise your bias is very unusual to support an arbitary pseudo state, just because you think they have been hard done by.

Don't you think the GCs have been harder done by and paid the price??

If what the TC side say is true - about the efforts in 1963 and 1974 to remove the Turkish Cypriot presence on the island - then I say that the Greek Cypriots actually got off pretty lightly. If however, what you say is true, then I would have to agree. So the question is: who is telling the truth? I sided with the TC's because (a) they were a minority in a country with a majority that had (and still has) a historical antipathy to them, and that the 1974 coup stagers had clearly said that they would have removed all Turkish Cypriots from the island. I despise bullies, and from what I have read and what I have heard from my TC friends, it sounds more plausible their side of things.

[B25]

@expatkiwi,

you may be a natrualised uS citizen with a NZ passport, but you are also a Turk, yes?

otherwise your bias is very unusual to support an arbitary pseudo state, just because you think they have been hard done by.

Don't you think the GCs have been harder done by and paid the price??

If what the TC side say is true - about the efforts in 1963 and 1974 to remove the Turkish Cypriot presence on the island - then I say that the Greek Cypriots actually got off pretty lightly. If however, what you say is true, then I would have to agree. So the question is: who is telling the truth? I sided with the TC's because (a) they were a minority in a country with a majority that had (and still has) a historical antipathy to them, and that the 1974 coup stagers had clearly said that they would have removed all Turkish Cypriots from the island. I despise bullies, and from what I have read and what I have heard from my TC friends, it sounds more plausible their side of things.

And so you are a Turk, so that confirms your bias. Thanks.

How many GC friends do you have ?? I am guessing none?

The TCs would have you selling yourmother if it meant getting their way, but hey you are a Turk, so you feel compelled to support them, fine, just don't play the middleman here because you fool no one.

Sorry to hear about the passing of your child though.

[Expatkiwi]

@expatkiwi,

you may be a natrualised uS citizen with a NZ passport, but you are also a Turk, yes?

otherwise your bias is very unusual to support an arbitary pseudo state, just because you think they have been hard done by.

Don't you think the GCs have been harder done by and paid the price??

If what the TC side say is true - about the efforts in 1963 and 1974 to remove the Turkish Cypriot presence on the island - then I say that the Greek Cypriots actually got off pretty lightly. If however, what you say is true, then I would have to agree. So the question is: who is telling the truth? I sided with the TC's because (a) they were a minority in a country with a majority that had (and still has) a historical antipathy to them, and that the 1974 coup stagers had clearly said that they would have removed all Turkish Cypriots from the island. I despise bullies, and from what I have read and what I have heard from my TC friends, it sounds more plausible their side of things.

And so you are a Turk, so that confirms your bias. Thanks.

How many GC friends do you have ?? I am guessing none?

The TCs would have you selling yourmother if it meant getting their way, but hey you are a Turk, so you feel compelled to support them, fine, just don't play the middleman here because you fool no one.

Sorry to hear about the passing of your child though.

Well, I must have fooled you. I am a New Zealander who is also a naturalized American. I actually have no Turkish blood in me. I have Turkish Cypriot friends though...

BTW, Thanks for your condolences.

[Lit]

@expatkiwi,

you may be a natrualised uS citizen with a NZ passport, but you are also a Turk, yes?

otherwise your bias is very unusual to support an arbitary pseudo state, just because you think they have been hard done by.

Don't you think the GCs have been harder done by and paid the price??

If what the TC side say is true - about the efforts in 1963 and 1974 to remove the Turkish Cypriot presence on the island - then I say that the Greek Cypriots actually got off pretty lightly. If however, what you say is true, then I would have to agree. So the question is: who is telling the truth? I sided with the TC's because (a) they were a minority in a country with a majority that had (and still has) a historical antipathy to them, and that the 1974 coup stagers had clearly said that they would have removed all Turkish Cypriots from the island. I despise bullies, and from what I have read and what I have heard from my TC friends, it sounds more plausible their side of things.

And so you are a Turk, so that confirms your bias. Thanks.

How many GC friends do you have ?? I am guessing none?

The TCs would have you selling yourmother if it meant getting their way, but hey you are a Turk, so you feel compelled to support them, fine, just don't play the middleman here because you fool no one.

Sorry to hear about the passing of your child though.

Well, I must have fooled you. I am a New Zealander who is also a naturalized American. I actually have no Turkish blood in me. I have Turkish Cypriot friends though...

BTW, Thanks for your condolences.

I use to visit the ATCA forum so i know your not Turkish but you do have a Turkish wife and your views are skewed, one-sided, and not balanced.

[Oracle]

@expatkiwi,

you may be a natrualised uS citizen with a NZ passport, but you are also a Turk, yes?

otherwise your bias is very unusual to support an arbitary pseudo state, just because you think they have been hard done by.

Don't you think the GCs have been harder done by and paid the price??

If what the TC side say is true - about the efforts in 1963 and 1974 to remove the Turkish Cypriot presence on the island - then I say that the Greek Cypriots actually got off pretty lightly. If however, what you say is true, then I would have to agree. So the question is: who is telling the truth? I sided with the TC's because (a) they were a minority in a country with a majority that had (and still has) a historical antipathy to them, and that the 1974 coup stagers had clearly said that they would have removed all Turkish Cypriots from the island. I despise bullies, and from what I have read and what I have heard from my TC friends, it sounds more plausible their side of things.

That's a big "If" by which to make yourself appear as a supporter of the kind of Apartheid-seeking the world tried to eradicate from influence, last century ...