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[zan]

What happened in Australia and America happened several centuries ago.The same thing happened with Asia Minor with the Turks. But we are not living in the middle ages anymore. Slavery, ethnic cleansing and genocides, the things that you Turks like so much, are not acceptable anymore. We are living in the 21st century, not in the era of the Ottoman conquerors.

As far as "tyranny" goes, it is us Cypriots who have been oppressed by you for centuries. It is you who invaded our island with the aim to enslave, exploit us and steal our lands. So don't pretend to be the victim when you are in fact the aggressors.

The ownership all Cyprus. including the north part is by over 80% to Greek Cypriots. And what "international agreements" do you have to back up your illegalities? Annan plan is null and void. The 1960s agreements are about one unitary state.

We have no problem to share this country with your minority. We share Cyprus with other minorities as well without any problem. We will share Cyprus with you in the same way that Turks share Turkey with the Greek and Kurdish minorities. We are not living in the Ottoman era that you could treat Cypriots as slaves and grand to yourselves privileges on our expense.

This from a man who goes back even further when it suits him!!

[Murataga]

What happened in Australia and America happened several centuries ago.The same thing happened with Asia Minor with the Turks. But we are not living in the middle ages anymore. Slavery, ethnic cleansing and genocides, the things that you Turks like so much, are not acceptable anymore. We are living in the 21st century, not in the era of the Ottoman conquerors.

As far as "tyranny" goes, it is us Cypriots who have been oppressed by you for centuries. It is you who invaded our island with the aim to enslave, exploit us and steal our lands. So don't pretend to be the victim when you are in fact the aggressors.

The ownership all Cyprus. including the north part is by over 80% to Greek Cypriots. And what "international agreements" do you have to back up your illegalities? Annan plan is null and void. The 1960s agreements are about one unitary state.

We have no problem to share this country with your minority. We share Cyprus with other minorities as well without any problem. We will share Cyprus with you in the same way that Turks share Turkey with the Greek and Kurdish minorities. We are not living in the Ottoman era that you could treat Cypriots as slaves and grand to yourselves privileges on our expense.

Minority? According to who/what? The 1960 Agreements? The U.N.? Your leader? Any country in the world?

[Oracle]

What happened in Australia and America happened several centuries ago.The same thing happened with Asia Minor with the Turks. But we are not living in the middle ages anymore. Slavery, ethnic cleansing and genocides, the things that you Turks like so much, are not acceptable anymore. We are living in the 21st century, not in the era of the Ottoman conquerors.

As far as "tyranny" goes, it is us Cypriots who have been oppressed by you for centuries. It is you who invaded our island with the aim to enslave, exploit us and steal our lands. So don't pretend to be the victim when you are in fact the aggressors.

The ownership all Cyprus. including the north part is by over 80% to Greek Cypriots. And what "international agreements" do you have to back up your illegalities? Annan plan is null and void. The 1960s agreements are about one unitary state.

We have no problem to share this country with your minority. We share Cyprus with other minorities as well without any problem. We will share Cyprus with you in the same way that Turks share Turkey with the Greek and Kurdish minorities. We are not living in the Ottoman era that you could treat Cypriots as slaves and grand to yourselves privileges on our expense.

Minority? According to who/what? The 1960 Agreements? The U.N.? Your leader? Any country in the world?

You were once recognised ... yes as a minority by all criteria ... but right now, you are not even a minority of the status of the Sri Lankan Domestics on Cyprus ... because you have no recognition except as forming part of an occupation regime. So, your little status as a "minority" is no more .... and you have to climb back into the fold or depart with the other illegals.

[zan]

What happened in Australia and America happened several centuries ago.The same thing happened with Asia Minor with the Turks. But we are not living in the middle ages anymore. Slavery, ethnic cleansing and genocides, the things that you Turks like so much, are not acceptable anymore. We are living in the 21st century, not in the era of the Ottoman conquerors.

As far as "tyranny" goes, it is us Cypriots who have been oppressed by you for centuries. It is you who invaded our island with the aim to enslave, exploit us and steal our lands. So don't pretend to be the victim when you are in fact the aggressors.

The ownership all Cyprus. including the north part is by over 80% to Greek Cypriots. And what "international agreements" do you have to back up your illegalities? Annan plan is null and void. The 1960s agreements are about one unitary state.

We have no problem to share this country with your minority. We share Cyprus with other minorities as well without any problem. We will share Cyprus with you in the same way that Turks share Turkey with the Greek and Kurdish minorities. We are not living in the Ottoman era that you could treat Cypriots as slaves and grand to yourselves privileges on our expense.

Minority? According to who/what? The 1960 Agreements? The U.N.? Your leader? Any country in the world?

You were once recognised ... yes as a minority by all criteria ... but right now, you are not even a minority of the status of the Sri Lankan Domestics on Cyprus ... because you have no recognition except as forming part of an occupation regime. So, your little status as a "minority" is no more .... and you have to climb back into the fold or depart with the other illegals.

Thew only criteria is numerically.....All others as partners....

[Piratis]

Viewpoint and Murataga, if you want all your "rights" according to the 1960 agreements, then we want all our rights according to those agreements too.

Funny how you want all you "rights" according to those agreements plus a lot more, while you think we should give up our rights according to the same agreements!

If your argument is "This was our right according to the 1960 agreements and we do not give it up", we can make the exact same argument for our side.

Therefore, if you are not willing to give up any of the "rights" granted to you with the 1960 agreements, and we are not willing to give up any of our rights granted by the same agreements, this means that the only possible solution is to return to those agreements.

I accept this, and I have no problem for you to have the 100% of rights you had with those agreements. Do you accept the same for us?

[YFred]

What happened in Australia and America happened several centuries ago.The same thing happened with Asia Minor with the Turks. But we are not living in the middle ages anymore. Slavery, ethnic cleansing and genocides, the things that you Turks like so much, are not acceptable anymore. We are living in the 21st century, not in the era of the Ottoman conquerors.

As far as "tyranny" goes, it is us Cypriots who have been oppressed by you for centuries. It is you who invaded our island with the aim to enslave, exploit us and steal our lands. So don't pretend to be the victim when you are in fact the aggressors.

The ownership all Cyprus. including the north part is by over 80% to Greek Cypriots. And what "international agreements" do you have to back up your illegalities? Annan plan is null and void. The 1960s agreements are about one unitary state.

We have no problem to share this country with your minority. We share Cyprus with other minorities as well without any problem. We will share Cyprus with you in the same way that Turks share Turkey with the Greek and Kurdish minorities. We are not living in the Ottoman era that you could treat Cypriots as slaves and grand to yourselves privileges on our expense.

This from a man who goes back even further when it suits him!!

[Viewpoint]

Viewpoint and Murataga, if you want all your "rights" according to the 1960 agreements, then we want all our rights according to those agreements too.

Funny how you want all you "rights" according to those agreements plus a lot more, while you think we should give up our rights according to the same agreements!

If your argument is "This was our right according to the 1960 agreements and we do not give it up", we can make the exact same argument for our side.

Therefore, if you are not willing to give up any of the "rights" granted to you with the 1960 agreements, and we are not willing to give up any of our rights granted by the same agreements, this means that the only possible solution is to return to those agreements.

I accept this, and I have no problem for you to have the 100% of rights you had with those agreements. Do you accept the same for us?

Thank you for finally acknowledging that we to have rights that cannot be brushed away, the fact that our previous arrangement broke down for reasonwe can argue forever do not mean they have disappeared. We need to take into account the errors of the past and build a new structure that will take into account both sides concerns and not allow either side to back out, manipulate or steam roll over the community like as was the case in the past...do you agree to this? or do you want the freedom to use your numerical advantage to do as you wish to the detrement of TCs.

[repulsewarrior]

Viewpoint and Murataga, if you want all your "rights" according to the 1960 agreements, then we want all our rights according to those agreements too.

Funny how you want all you "rights" according to those agreements plus a lot more, while you think we should give up our rights according to the same agreements!

If your argument is "This was our right according to the 1960 agreements and we do not give it up", we can make the exact same argument for our side.

Therefore, if you are not willing to give up any of the "rights" granted to you with the 1960 agreements, and we are not willing to give up any of our rights granted by the same agreements, this means that the only possible solution is to return to those agreements.

I accept this, and I have no problem for you to have the 100% of rights you had with those agreements. Do you accept the same for us?

Thank you for finally acknowledging that we to have rights that cannot be brushed away, the fact that our previous arrangement broke down for reasonwe can argue forever do not mean they have disappeared. We need to take into account the errors of the past and build a new structure that will take into account both sides concerns and not allow either side to back out, manipulate or steam roll over the community like as was the case in the past...do you agree to this? or do you want the freedom to use your numerical advantage to do as you wish to the detrement of TCs.

...please read my manifesto

[Viewpoint]

Viewpoint and Murataga, if you want all your "rights" according to the 1960 agreements, then we want all our rights according to those agreements too.

Funny how you want all you "rights" according to those agreements plus a lot more, while you think we should give up our rights according to the same agreements!

If your argument is "This was our right according to the 1960 agreements and we do not give it up", we can make the exact same argument for our side.

Therefore, if you are not willing to give up any of the "rights" granted to you with the 1960 agreements, and we are not willing to give up any of our rights granted by the same agreements, this means that the only possible solution is to return to those agreements.

I accept this, and I have no problem for you to have the 100% of rights you had with those agreements. Do you accept the same for us?

Thank you for finally acknowledging that we to have rights that cannot be brushed away, the fact that our previous arrangement broke down for reasonwe can argue forever do not mean they have disappeared. We need to take into account the errors of the past and build a new structure that will take into account both sides concerns and not allow either side to back out, manipulate or steam roll over the community like as was the case in the past...do you agree to this? or do you want the freedom to use your numerical advantage to do as you wish to the detrement of TCs.

...please read my manifesto

Have done and I am against Cantons...please tell us why you think it is so great and you keep bringing it up.

[Piratis]

Viewpoint and Murataga, if you want all your "rights" according to the 1960 agreements, then we want all our rights according to those agreements too.

Funny how you want all you "rights" according to those agreements plus a lot more, while you think we should give up our rights according to the same agreements!

If your argument is "This was our right according to the 1960 agreements and we do not give it up", we can make the exact same argument for our side.

Therefore, if you are not willing to give up any of the "rights" granted to you with the 1960 agreements, and we are not willing to give up any of our rights granted by the same agreements, this means that the only possible solution is to return to those agreements.

I accept this, and I have no problem for you to have the 100% of rights you had with those agreements. Do you accept the same for us?

Thank you for finally acknowledging that we to have rights that cannot be brushed away, the fact that our previous arrangement broke down for reasonwe can argue forever do not mean they have disappeared. We need to take into account the errors of the past and build a new structure that will take into account both sides concerns and not allow either side to back out, manipulate or steam roll over the community like as was the case in the past...do you agree to this? or do you want the freedom to use your numerical advantage to do as you wish to the detrement of TCs.

If your rights can not be "brushed away" ours can not either. Therefore the only thing that can be done is to returned to the 1960 agreements.

It is you who is using Turkish troops to our determent for centuries now. So don't pretend to be the victim when in fact you are the aggressors. If there will be any changes from the 1960s agreements those should be to make Cyprus more democratic and more free. Otherwise no changes can be made.