Hermes wrote:YFred wrote:Hermes wrote:YFred wrote:bill cobbett wrote:Please keep in mind that normalisation of Turkey's relationship with CY is a very, very small part of the criteria that Turkey is expected to meet. Fear however that this CY aspect will be greatly exagerated for home consumption when Turkey gets a less than good report from the EU in a few weeks time.
Bill, you are missing the point here. The problem is not the EU and their evaluations in December, they will simply postpone it as per usual. The problem is that the hard liners are gaining ground in Turkey which is why Eroglu is speaking like he is. Which means that the talks unless they finish before Talat leaves office then will not conclude in another 5 years. If you read the signs the international community is shifting away from the GCs point of view, which will lead to break of Cyprus along the TC lines. Probably about 27%.
Then why isn't Talat moving faster to get a deal? You'd think he'd have a pretty good incentive to get moving, wouldn't you?
As for the international community, there is no chance that they will shift their positions on Cyprus. Absolutely no chance that the EU, the UN, the Russians, Chinese, French, Germans, Greeks, Americans or British will do or can do anything to undermine current EU or UN resolutions on Cyprus. It just ain't going to happen. The EU doesn't work like that for a start.
The UN and EU officially condone invasion and occupation? You are dreaming. The ones who will lose out will be the Turks. Talks failure will lead to no EU entry will lead to financial and political uncertainty and more and more law suits.
If the Turks want a solution before hardliners mess things up then they've got every incentive to get a deal done sooner rather than later. The clock is ticking...
How can he play ball, if Muhtar X is doing a TPapa and has deflated the ball and is hanging on to the pump.
The maximalist attitude of the GCs side will lead to two separate countries. It will be sooner than you realise. You are just not reading the signs of the international communities’ shift in their thinking regarding the Cyprus Problem.
No, Fred. It is the maximalist position of the Turkish side that is working against a solution. The Turks are hoping for a re-heated version of the Annan Plan which we overwhelmingly rejected. All this nonsense about two states, virgin birth, permanent derogations, while importing more settlers, threatening to never return Karpasia or Morphou, and complaining about EU property decisions. For God's sake! This is total nonsense and shows a lack of seriousness and refusal to accept the realities of what kind of solution the Greek Cypriots are willing to accept. Better to have no solution than a bad solution. Partition is what we have now. It is what the Turks have always wanted. So threatening us with partition is hardly something new.
So please explain to me what their position is now and what would it be if it was maximalist?
