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Do u agree with the fool that a war will resolve the Cyprus problem once and for all?

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Total votes : 34

Postby insan » Fri Oct 09, 2009 8:22 am

GR wrote:

Insan, I wrote about a Cyprus Vs Turkey war scenario on many occasions but you weren’t around to see them. So as not to repeat myself here are some past bits I can find on the issue…

This could either be achieved by a bribed superpower such as France stationing her navy between Cyprus and Turkey but having no further involvement, or through the early removal of all ports including naval, airstrips, and helipads, leaving only flimsy aerial drops to be dealt with by SAMs.


You r calling back the Lusignan emperor to invade Cyprus one more time? :lol: Ur Greek cousins might got upset and before any joint action of Franco-Greek Cypro; they could collaborate with Turkey as they once allegedly colloborated and backstab u. :lol:

GR wrote:

I have since also written a detailed operations plan I’ve never posted here but have submitted to the RoC government for their perusal. :lol:


:lol: GR, only possible military conflict might erupt in Cyprus during the turmoil of a WW3... In the turmoil of a ww3; be aware not being backstabbed by Russia and China. :lol:

Military action worked for TCs under then the circumstances. It only provided us putting a full-stop to inter-communal violence and uneasiness arise from vulnerability of TCs. Joint military action of TCs and Turks could only solve a significant part of Cyprus problem, that's all...
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Re: Let's Talk about some war scenarios

Postby denizaksulu » Fri Oct 09, 2009 8:53 am

YFred wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
YFred wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
insan wrote:
Anyway, in time Christofias’ “agreements” will also be filed away with the rest of the “agreements” and we may even see a few more “agreements” from the next government (quite possibly DISY) get shelved, until the time comes when military conflict will resolve the Cyprus problem once and for all... and to be quite frank with you I’m looking forward to that day.


One of the most stupid members of this forum, foolishly suggested that a war would resolve the Cyprus problem once and for all. Do u agree with him... if yes, let's talk about some possible war scenarios. :lol:


I have severe wet dreams of Australia deploying its ADF to the British SBA's and leading an offensive against Turkish Occupation forces in Cyprus, thus liberating the island in 5 minutes.

It would be absolutely great if Australia led a 'coalition of the willing', unleashing its wrath upon the inferior TA, scorching the earth within the so called "trnc". The operation would have to be led by Australia, because Australian troops are far too good and MUST NEVER again be placed under the command of foreigners. This would ensure victory just like it did in East Timor...:lol:

If only I was Australia's PM! :) I would put Australia's new Aircraft carriers to the test as well.... :wink:



...and my father-in-law attends Anzac day Celebrations regularly. :lol:

I took you for a more serious fellow re Bafidis. Your sense of humour is........................well, just great. :lol:

Where is Insan when you need him? He found some Official source of what Bafidis’s brave ausi soldiers did when the war started in 1974. They made sure they were in the Barracks. Barrrrrrrrrrrrraaaaaaaaaaaaa
Three cheers for the brave Australians.
:lol: :lol: :lol:



Dont mock the Anzacs Yfred, just the 'venture' itself. Greece could do nothing and it is almost next door. The Aussies couldnt do much without other western help.

I was refering to the ausi soldiers in the British camps in Cyprus during 74. They were confined in the barracks in case they got shot.
That is how brave they were, hiding under their beds.



That has nothing to do with the bravery of the Aussies then. Orders are orders. The cowardly Brits wanted to keep the conflict localised. The last thing they wanted was to be involved in a conflict, where the outcome would be hard to fathom. The Brit Gov showed their mettle, when Kallig Khan (Callaghan) refused to intervene with Turkey to Oust Sampson.
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Postby denizaksulu » Fri Oct 09, 2009 9:05 am

YFred wrote:
AmericanGC wrote:oh please Youtube video now maybe you need a education. Go to school and live real life big guy.

Rather difficult seeing the truth. When the real facts come out and likes of you see that Americans have killed up to a million Iraqis I wonder if you will be on this website. :twisted:



Yfred, are you telling us that now we have one of your American cousins among us? One of those murdering bastards who at the blink of an eye will not hesitate to annihilate one million of the poor innocent civilian population of Iraq? I think we are better of with our EOKA cousin (the son of Mihailis), he only blew up an army truck. :roll:
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Re: Let's Talk about some war scenarios

Postby YFred » Fri Oct 09, 2009 9:09 am

denizaksulu wrote:
YFred wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
YFred wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
insan wrote:
Anyway, in time Christofias’ “agreements” will also be filed away with the rest of the “agreements” and we may even see a few more “agreements” from the next government (quite possibly DISY) get shelved, until the time comes when military conflict will resolve the Cyprus problem once and for all... and to be quite frank with you I’m looking forward to that day.


One of the most stupid members of this forum, foolishly suggested that a war would resolve the Cyprus problem once and for all. Do u agree with him... if yes, let's talk about some possible war scenarios. :lol:


I have severe wet dreams of Australia deploying its ADF to the British SBA's and leading an offensive against Turkish Occupation forces in Cyprus, thus liberating the island in 5 minutes.

It would be absolutely great if Australia led a 'coalition of the willing', unleashing its wrath upon the inferior TA, scorching the earth within the so called "trnc". The operation would have to be led by Australia, because Australian troops are far too good and MUST NEVER again be placed under the command of foreigners. This would ensure victory just like it did in East Timor...:lol:

If only I was Australia's PM! :) I would put Australia's new Aircraft carriers to the test as well.... :wink:



...and my father-in-law attends Anzac day Celebrations regularly. :lol:

I took you for a more serious fellow re Bafidis. Your sense of humour is........................well, just great. :lol:

Where is Insan when you need him? He found some Official source of what Bafidis’s brave ausi soldiers did when the war started in 1974. They made sure they were in the Barracks. Barrrrrrrrrrrrraaaaaaaaaaaaa
Three cheers for the brave Australians.
:lol: :lol: :lol:



Dont mock the Anzacs Yfred, just the 'venture' itself. Greece could do nothing and it is almost next door. The Aussies couldnt do much without other western help.

I was refering to the ausi soldiers in the British camps in Cyprus during 74. They were confined in the barracks in case they got shot.
That is how brave they were, hiding under their beds.



That has nothing to do with the bravery of the Aussies then. Orders are orders. The cowardly Brits wanted to keep the conflict localised. The last thing they wanted was to be involved in a conflict, where the outcome would be hard to fathom. The Brit Gov showed their mettle, when Kallig Khan (Callaghan) refused to intervene with Turkey to Oust Sampson.

From what I have read, Kallig Khan feared that if he took Turkey on, he would lose and consequently lose the Cyprus bases and be totally humiliated like the Yanks in Vietnam as it was fresh in their minds at the time. It was a good tactical decision on his part and saved the bases. The fact that it ruined Cyprus as a unitary state was not a problem for him, as it was the wish of the Americans that Cyprus had effectively became part of Nato through the back door without the expressed wish of her people. But then again, where did America show any respect to democratic principles?
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Postby Oracle » Fri Oct 09, 2009 9:11 am

denizaksulu wrote:
YFred wrote:
AmericanGC wrote:oh please Youtube video now maybe you need a education. Go to school and live real life big guy.

Rather difficult seeing the truth. When the real facts come out and likes of you see that Americans have killed up to a million Iraqis I wonder if you will be on this website. :twisted:



Yfred, are you telling us that now we have one of your American cousins among us? One of those murdering bastards who at the blink of an eye will not hesitate to annihilate one million of the poor innocent civilian population of Iraq? I think we are better of with our EOKA cousin (the son of Mihailis), he only blew up an army truck. :roll:


Perhaps YFred should start with his motherland which enforces genocide by the millions, ethnic cleansing by the thousands and rapes and slaughter by the 10s of thousands and is the last nation to have used Napalm and sill retains it.

Those who emulate the Turks are the ones to fear ... :roll:
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Postby denizaksulu » Fri Oct 09, 2009 9:23 am

humanist wrote:a war in Cyprus would mean the begginning of the end of the whole world ........... NO to friggin wars



I agree with that Humanist, but on the other hand every 'nation' has the unalienable right to defend itself and rid itself of the 'enemy'.

What does one do, if all talks fail? Wait for another 34 years, then another and another or give in to the force of arms. I think that is what GR is on about.

Enough pressure and willingness from the greater powers is needed to force Turkeys hand in this. How powerless are they. Self interest I suppose.

NO to war.
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Postby YFred » Fri Oct 09, 2009 9:28 am

Oracle wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
YFred wrote:
AmericanGC wrote:oh please Youtube video now maybe you need a education. Go to school and live real life big guy.

Rather difficult seeing the truth. When the real facts come out and likes of you see that Americans have killed up to a million Iraqis I wonder if you will be on this website. :twisted:



Yfred, are you telling us that now we have one of your American cousins among us? One of those murdering bastards who at the blink of an eye will not hesitate to annihilate one million of the poor innocent civilian population of Iraq? I think we are better of with our EOKA cousin (the son of Mihailis), he only blew up an army truck. :roll:


Perhaps YFred should start with his motherland which enforces genocide by the millions, ethnic cleansing by the thousands and rapes and slaughter by the 10s of thousands and is the last nation to have used Napalm and sill retains it.

Those who emulate the Turks are the ones to fear ... :roll:

From what I have read with the 74 intervention, 200 were raped and 4,000 killed, unlike you the serbs and the Greek volunteers who raped 50,000 Bosnians and killed 200,000. Not in 1900s but in 1990s. Before you preach learn what your people did. Education is a wonderful activity if it is done properly, not the Greek way.
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Postby YFred » Fri Oct 09, 2009 9:33 am

denizaksulu wrote:
humanist wrote:a war in Cyprus would mean the begginning of the end of the whole world ........... NO to friggin wars



I agree with that Humanist, but on the other hand every 'nation' has the unalienable right to defend itself and rid itself of the 'enemy'.

What does one do, if all talks fail? Wait for another 34 years, then another and another or give in to the force of arms. I think that is what GR is on about.

Enough pressure and willingness from the greater powers is needed to force Turkeys hand in this. How powerless are they. Self interest I suppose.

NO to war.

Deniz, the talks will fail, Muhtar X will be seen as the one responsible and isolation will removed with 12 months from December.

Then the GCs will actually sit down and negotiate in earnest, the question then is, will the TCs be interested, I suspect not.

When you get kicked in the balls, you don't go and stand in front of the person who kicked you with your legs wide open. You take up a position to protect yourself.

As far as war in concerned I think the GC and Greek Generals know what its all about and will not start one on account that only an insane person would commit suicide, despite what the extremists on this forum are propagating.
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Postby insan » Fri Oct 09, 2009 9:37 am

YFred wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
humanist wrote:a war in Cyprus would mean the begginning of the end of the whole world ........... NO to friggin wars



I agree with that Humanist, but on the other hand every 'nation' has the unalienable right to defend itself and rid itself of the 'enemy'.

What does one do, if all talks fail? Wait for another 34 years, then another and another or give in to the force of arms. I think that is what GR is on about.

Enough pressure and willingness from the greater powers is needed to force Turkeys hand in this. How powerless are they. Self interest I suppose.

NO to war.

Deniz, the talks will fail, Muhtar X will be seen as the one responsible and isolation will removed with 12 months from December.

Then the GCs will actually sit down and negotiate in earnest, the question then is, will the TCs be interested, I suspect not.

When you get kicked in the balls, you don't go and stand in front of the person who kicked you with your legs wide open. You take up a position to protect yourself.

As far as war in concerned I think the GC and Greek Generals know what its all about and will not start one on account that only an insane person would commit suicide, despite what the extremists on this forum are propagating.


I agree with YFred. Talks will end up with lifting the isolations and initiation of new round of talks on solving the property problem based on exchange and/or return and/or compensation by a bi-communal property board.

I anticipate no military action in an around Cyprus until a ww3 erupts.
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Postby denizaksulu » Fri Oct 09, 2009 9:54 am

YFred wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
humanist wrote:a war in Cyprus would mean the begginning of the end of the whole world ........... NO to friggin wars



I agree with that Humanist, but on the other hand every 'nation' has the unalienable right to defend itself and rid itself of the 'enemy'.

What does one do, if all talks fail? Wait for another 34 years, then another and another or give in to the force of arms. I think that is what GR is on about.

Enough pressure and willingness from the greater powers is needed to force Turkeys hand in this. How powerless are they. Self interest I suppose.

NO to war.

Deniz, the talks will fail, Muhtar X will be seen as the one responsible and isolation will removed with 12 months from December.

Then the GCs will actually sit down and negotiate in earnest, the question then is, will the TCs be interested, I suspect not.

When you get kicked in the balls, you don't go and stand in front of the person who kicked you with your legs wide open. You take up a position to protect yourself.

As far as war in concerned I think the GC and Greek Generals know what its all about and will not start one on account that only an insane person would commit suicide, despite what the extremists on this forum are propagating.


I agree with you. The talks (current) are doomed to failure as the way I see, the two leaders are playing different tunes. God knows when they will reconvene for another round of talks. It seems from your predictions that you have become an Oracle... :lol: :lol:
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