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[denizaksulu]

Anyway, in time Christofias’ “agreements” will also be filed away with the rest of the “agreements” and we may even see a few more “agreements” from the next government (quite possibly DISY) get shelved, until the time comes when military conflict will resolve the Cyprus problem once and for all... and to be quite frank with you I’m looking forward to that day.

One of the most stupid members of this forum, foolishly suggested that a war would resolve the Cyprus problem once and for all. Do u agree with him... if yes, let's talk about some possible war scenarios.

I have severe wet dreams of Australia deploying its ADF to the British SBA's and leading an offensive against Turkish Occupation forces in Cyprus, thus liberating the island in 5 minutes.

It would be absolutely great if Australia led a 'coalition of the willing', unleashing its wrath upon the inferior TA, scorching the earth within the so called "trnc". The operation would have to be led by Australia, because Australian troops are far too good and MUST NEVER again be placed under the command of foreigners. This would ensure victory just like it did in East Timor...

If only I was Australia's PM! I would put Australia's new Aircraft carriers to the test as well....

...and my father-in-law attends Anzac day Celebrations regularly.

I took you for a more serious fellow re Bafidis. Your sense of humour is........................well, just great.

[insan]

Viewpoint, nothing of the TAF in 74 was impressive, I understand as a Turk you look at cowardness as bravery, but the reality is if a war in Cyprus broke out, Turks would never occupy ever again and Turkey itself would be beat down. In 74 the Turks attacked with all the advantage of a modern military with a Navy and Airforce against a small terribily armed National Guard force of 5,000 troops with no Navy and no Airforce. Still Turks lost over 3,000 troops, many aircraft and the Turks sunk their own flagship. They made up for their failures by killing civilians and POWs, I guess that is what you mean by "ferocity" kill civilians and call it a victory thats the Turkish way.

Mr. Colby: You’re right, they haven’t done very well militarily.
Secretary Kissinger: They didn’t go after Famagusta as we thought
they would.
Mr. Colby: No, they put out some stories that they were going to
take it, but apparently only for psychological purposes.
Secretary Kissinger: Then the Greeks are fighting better than we
thought they would.
Mr. Colby: Yes, they are doing well.
Amb. McCloskey: What is their strength on the island?
Mr. Colby: About 9,000 National Guard troops, and plus 30,000
Reserves. The Turks have about 6,000.
Secretary Kissinger: Are the Greeks reinforcing?
Mr. Colby: Yes, today.
Secretary Kissinger: As I look at it, we have two problems. One is
getting a ceasefire. Without one, we are impotent. The Greeks are also
in no position to do much. And two, what our stance should be in the
negotiations. What is your judgement as to the internal situation in
Cyprus following a ceasefire? Anybody heard from Sampson?

http://www.state.gov/documents/organization/96606.pdf

Gregory check your sources one more time....

[YFred]

oh please Youtube video now maybe you need a education. Go to school and live real life big guy.

Rather difficult seeing the truth. When the real facts come out and likes of you see that Americans have killed up to a million Iraqis I wonder if you will be on this website.

[insan]

Sisco says that if we get no action from the Turks we will have to
leave NATO. I’ll put in a call to Ecevit—it will give us some time in
Athens. Seems to me that Ecevit is not doing well militarily. They are
doing lousy militarily. We’ve got two governments in and outside the
country. Under these conditions we may have to turn to Makarios. I’m
not sure we have any alternative now. What is going to be the balance
of forces if we get a ceasefire?

Mr. Colby: The National Guard is doing quite well, they have some
40,000 troops.Secretary Schlesinger: I don’t think we can get an accurate picture of the balance of forces because the only thing we have is a ceasefire.
They can bring in more troops under a ceasefire, reinforce here and
there. That would change the whole picture.

Secretary Kissinger: It is against our interests to have the Greeks
in there. A strong Turkish presence would be highly desirable. What
went wrong, anyway?

Mr. Colby: They have turned out to be tough.
Mr. Ingersoll: How much ammo is on the island?

Mr. Colby: Lots of it. Every male over the age of 12 has a gun and
lots of ammunition.

Amb. McCloskey: That’s right. Also, Sampson opened up all the
caches.Mr. Lauder: They have also received weapons from the Palestinians.

Secretary Kissinger: From Fatah?

Mr. Lauder: Yes.

Mr. Colby: All the Greeks on the island are cleaving together on
this thing. They all act as one against the Turks.

Secretary Kissinger: Then once we have a ceasefire, we have a
united populace.

Mr. Colby: At least for the moment. Some cracks will begin to
show, primarily between the Makarios and Sampson forces.

Secretary Kissinger: Is the Clerides option still open?

Mr. Colby: That’s tough to say at this time.

Secretary Kissinger: Well, I think we ought to get a Working Group
together today. Arthur (Mr. Hartman) would you take charge. You
should look at what options we want in negotiations, look at the various
political forces in the event of a ceasefire and what the political
balance will be on the island.

Secretary Schlesinger: I’d like to bring up the issue that we only
touched upon earlier. I think the larger question here is the future status
of NATO. The actions we decide to take might militate against
NATO, destroy it. Is that what we are prepared to do?

[YFred]

Anyway, in time Christofias’ “agreements” will also be filed away with the rest of the “agreements” and we may even see a few more “agreements” from the next government (quite possibly DISY) get shelved, until the time comes when military conflict will resolve the Cyprus problem once and for all... and to be quite frank with you I’m looking forward to that day.

One of the most stupid members of this forum, foolishly suggested that a war would resolve the Cyprus problem once and for all. Do u agree with him... if yes, let's talk about some possible war scenarios.

I have severe wet dreams of Australia deploying its ADF to the British SBA's and leading an offensive against Turkish Occupation forces in Cyprus, thus liberating the island in 5 minutes.

It would be absolutely great if Australia led a 'coalition of the willing', unleashing its wrath upon the inferior TA, scorching the earth within the so called "trnc". The operation would have to be led by Australia, because Australian troops are far too good and MUST NEVER again be placed under the command of foreigners. This would ensure victory just like it did in East Timor...

If only I was Australia's PM! I would put Australia's new Aircraft carriers to the test as well....

...and my father-in-law attends Anzac day Celebrations regularly.

I took you for a more serious fellow re Bafidis. Your sense of humour is........................well, just great.

Where is Insan when you need him? He found some Official source of what Bafidis’s brave ausi soldiers did when the war started in 1974. They made sure they were in the Barracks. Barrrrrrrrrrrrraaaaaaaaaaaaa
Three cheers for the brave Australians.

[insan]

Anyway, in time Christofias’ “agreements” will also be filed away with the rest of the “agreements” and we may even see a few more “agreements” from the next government (quite possibly DISY) get shelved, until the time comes when military conflict will resolve the Cyprus problem once and for all... and to be quite frank with you I’m looking forward to that day.

One of the most stupid members of this forum, foolishly suggested that a war would resolve the Cyprus problem once and for all. Do u agree with him... if yes, let's talk about some possible war scenarios.

I have severe wet dreams of Australia deploying its ADF to the British SBA's and leading an offensive against Turkish Occupation forces in Cyprus, thus liberating the island in 5 minutes.

It would be absolutely great if Australia led a 'coalition of the willing', unleashing its wrath upon the inferior TA, scorching the earth within the so called "trnc". The operation would have to be led by Australia, because Australian troops are far too good and MUST NEVER again be placed under the command of foreigners. This would ensure victory just like it did in East Timor...

If only I was Australia's PM! I would put Australia's new Aircraft carriers to the test as well....

...and my father-in-law attends Anzac day Celebrations regularly.

I took you for a more serious fellow re Bafidis. Your sense of humour is........................well, just great.

Where is Insan when you need him? He found some Official source of what Bafidis’s brave ausi soldiers did when the war started in 1974. They made sure they were in the Barracks. Barrrrrrrrrrrrraaaaaaaaaaaaa
Three cheers for the brave Australians.

[insan]

Sisco says that if we get no action from the Turks we will have to
leave NATO. I’ll put in a call to Ecevit—it will give us some time in
Athens. Seems to me that Ecevit is not doing well militarily. They are
doing lousy militarily. We’ve got two governments in and outside the
country. Under these conditions we may have to turn to Makarios. I’m
not sure we have any alternative now. What is going to be the balance
of forces if we get a ceasefire?

Mr. Colby: The National Guard is doing quite well, they have some
40,000 troops.Secretary Schlesinger: I don’t think we can get an accurate picture of the balance of forces because the only thing we have is a ceasefire.
They can bring in more troops under a ceasefire, reinforce here and
there. That would change the whole picture.

Secretary Kissinger: It is against our interests to have the Greeks
in there. A strong Turkish presence would be highly desirable. What
went wrong, anyway?

Mr. Colby: They have turned out to be tough.
Mr. Ingersoll: How much ammo is on the island?

Mr. Colby: Lots of it. Every male over the age of 12 has a gun and
lots of ammunition.

Amb. McCloskey: That’s right. Also, Sampson opened up all the
caches.Mr. Lauder: They have also received weapons from the Palestinians.

Secretary Kissinger: From Fatah?

Mr. Lauder: Yes.

Mr. Colby: All the Greeks on the island are cleaving together on
this thing. They all act as one against the Turks.

Secretary Kissinger: Then once we have a ceasefire, we have a
united populace.

Mr. Colby: At least for the moment. Some cracks will begin to
show, primarily between the Makarios and Sampson forces.

Secretary Kissinger: Is the Clerides option still open?

Mr. Colby: That’s tough to say at this time.

Secretary Kissinger: Well, I think we ought to get a Working Group
together today. Arthur (Mr. Hartman) would you take charge. You
should look at what options we want in negotiations, look at the various
political forces in the event of a ceasefire and what the political
balance will be on the island.

Secretary Schlesinger: I’d like to bring up the issue that we only
touched upon earlier. I think the larger question here is the future status
of NATO. The actions we decide to take might militate against
NATO, destroy it. Is that what we are prepared to do?

where's uni graduated, prof. Gregory Peck?

[denizaksulu]

Anyway, in time Christofias’ “agreements” will also be filed away with the rest of the “agreements” and we may even see a few more “agreements” from the next government (quite possibly DISY) get shelved, until the time comes when military conflict will resolve the Cyprus problem once and for all... and to be quite frank with you I’m looking forward to that day.

One of the most stupid members of this forum, foolishly suggested that a war would resolve the Cyprus problem once and for all. Do u agree with him... if yes, let's talk about some possible war scenarios.

I have severe wet dreams of Australia deploying its ADF to the British SBA's and leading an offensive against Turkish Occupation forces in Cyprus, thus liberating the island in 5 minutes.

It would be absolutely great if Australia led a 'coalition of the willing', unleashing its wrath upon the inferior TA, scorching the earth within the so called "trnc". The operation would have to be led by Australia, because Australian troops are far too good and MUST NEVER again be placed under the command of foreigners. This would ensure victory just like it did in East Timor...

If only I was Australia's PM! I would put Australia's new Aircraft carriers to the test as well....

...and my father-in-law attends Anzac day Celebrations regularly.

I took you for a more serious fellow re Bafidis. Your sense of humour is........................well, just great.

Where is Insan when you need him? He found some Official source of what Bafidis’s brave ausi soldiers did when the war started in 1974. They made sure they were in the Barracks. Barrrrrrrrrrrrraaaaaaaaaaaaa
Three cheers for the brave Australians.

Dont mock the Anzacs Yfred, just the 'venture' itself. Greece could do nothing and it is almost next door. The Aussies couldnt do much without other western help.

[Hermes]

What a stupid thread. Why on earth would the Greek Cypriots become involved in a military war when they have an army of lawyers and legal precedent on their side? The G/Cs have used legal, economic and diplomatic means to render the occupation of northern Cyprus a legal nightmare and political headache for Turkey. They haven't had to fire one single shot to do this. Faced with a huge Turkish army and all its resources the G/Cs have used their brains, patience and legal skills to render the Turks frustrated, helpless and force them to the negotiating table against their wishes. Not bad at all.

[YFred]

Sisco says that if we get no action from the Turks we will have to
leave NATO. I’ll put in a call to Ecevit—it will give us some time in
Athens. Seems to me that Ecevit is not doing well militarily. They are
doing lousy militarily. We’ve got two governments in and outside the
country. Under these conditions we may have to turn to Makarios. I’m
not sure we have any alternative now. What is going to be the balance
of forces if we get a ceasefire?

Mr. Colby: The National Guard is doing quite well, they have some
40,000 troops.Secretary Schlesinger: I don’t think we can get an accurate picture of the balance of forces because the only thing we have is a ceasefire.
They can bring in more troops under a ceasefire, reinforce here and
there. That would change the whole picture.

Secretary Kissinger: It is against our interests to have the Greeks
in there. A strong Turkish presence would be highly desirable. What
went wrong, anyway?

Mr. Colby: They have turned out to be tough.
Mr. Ingersoll: How much ammo is on the island?

Mr. Colby: Lots of it. Every male over the age of 12 has a gun and
lots of ammunition.

Amb. McCloskey: That’s right. Also, Sampson opened up all the
caches.Mr. Lauder: They have also received weapons from the Palestinians.

Secretary Kissinger: From Fatah?

Mr. Lauder: Yes.

Mr. Colby: All the Greeks on the island are cleaving together on
this thing. They all act as one against the Turks.

Secretary Kissinger: Then once we have a ceasefire, we have a
united populace.

Mr. Colby: At least for the moment. Some cracks will begin to
show, primarily between the Makarios and Sampson forces.

Secretary Kissinger: Is the Clerides option still open?

Mr. Colby: That’s tough to say at this time.

Secretary Kissinger: Well, I think we ought to get a Working Group
together today. Arthur (Mr. Hartman) would you take charge. You
should look at what options we want in negotiations, look at the various
political forces in the event of a ceasefire and what the political
balance will be on the island.

Secretary Schlesinger: I’d like to bring up the issue that we only
touched upon earlier. I think the larger question here is the future status
of NATO. The actions we decide to take might militate against
NATO, destroy it. Is that what we are prepared to do?

where's uni graduated, prof. Gregory Peck?

No insan, you are being unfair to Mr Peck. He is a fine actor. Our GC American cousin is more like John Wayne, slow talkin , slow walkin with a hand bag over his shoulder. Saying "I come for my boy", that’s how I visualise him. I know I am being biased but what the hell, it’s nearly Friday and I have to attend Mosque tomorrow so I better say all the bad words before midnight.