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[AmericanGC]

Viewpoint, nothing of the TAF in 74 was impressive, I understand as a Turk you look at cowardness as bravery, but the reality is if a war in Cyprus broke out, Turks would never occupy ever again and Turkey itself would be beat down. In 74 the Turks attacked with all the advantage of a modern military with a Navy and Airforce against a small terribily armed National Guard force of 5,000 troops with no Navy and no Airforce. Still Turks lost over 3,000 troops, many aircraft and the Turks sunk their own flagship. They made up for their failures by killing civilians and POWs, I guess that is what you mean by "ferocity" kill civilians and call it a victory thats the Turkish way.

[Viewpoint]

Viewpoint, nothing of the TAF in 74 was impressive, I understand as a Turk you look at cowardness as bravery, but the reality is if a war in Cyprus broke out, Turks would never occupy ever again and Turkey itself would be beat down. In 74 the Turks attacked with all the advantage of a modern military with a Navy and Airforce against a small terribily armed National Guard force of 5,000 troops with no Navy and no Airforce. Still Turks lost over 3,000 troops, many aircraft and the Turks sunk their own flagship. They made up for their failures by killing civilians and POWs, I guess that is what you mean by "ferocity" kill civilians and call it a victory thats the Turkish way.

Then you have no worries feel free to attack and unleash a sub standard army clearly you have no worries or concerns therefore you will have no problems defeating them but dont expect them to take it on the chin. Ill tell you something about Turks they are the best most generous people in the world but you try and wrong them and they will have no problems cutting your head off.....easy really you play with bombs you shouldnt cry when they explode.

[AmericanGC]

It seems to that the Turks on here can take the heat, it's pretty funny to me. his talking hard on the internet makes me laugh. You would never talk like that to my face. I'm sorry if facts scare you. As for Yankee Doodle Dandy. I was in the American military and we had to train with Turks or train them would better describe it. My personal experince is as follows. The TAF special forces could not keep up on a 14 mile run with us, they cried during cold water trainning, got lost on thier own trainng course during mock counter insurgent drill. Ohh but they were just like every other Turk just deny it and call yourself a stud maybe you could find a civilian to beat up.

[YFred]

Viewpoint, nothing of the TAF in 74 was impressive, I understand as a Turk you look at cowardness as bravery, but the reality is if a war in Cyprus broke out, Turks would never occupy ever again and Turkey itself would be beat down. In 74 the Turks attacked with all the advantage of a modern military with a Navy and Airforce against a small terribily armed National Guard force of 5,000 troops with no Navy and no Airforce. Still Turks lost over 3,000 troops, many aircraft and the Turks sunk their own flagship. They made up for their failures by killing civilians and POWs, I guess that is what you mean by "ferocity" kill civilians and call it a victory thats the Turkish way.

Then you have no worries feel free to attack and unleash a sub standard army clearly you have no worries or concerns therefore you will have no problems defeating them but dont expect them to take it on the chin. Ill tell you something about Turks they are the best most generous people in the world but you try and wrong them and they will have no problems cutting your head off.....easy really you play with bombs you shouldnt cry when they explode.

VP, they are brave but not as vichous as everybody pretends. Considering they attacked with 50,000 force and raped 200 women, the serbs raped 50,000 women and killed 200,000 people with the help of their greek cousins.

I think our american GC cousin is in need of some real education rather than the redneck one he recieved over in the disney land.

[AmericanGC]

I have proven my point on Turks. I bring up the facts, and you start making threats on a keyboard. I guess I should educate you LOSERS once again. I am not in charge of the Cyprus government. I served in the military, in combat and proven myself as a warrior so I don't need to act hard on the internet unlike insecure Turk internet thugs. But don't worry if a war starts in Cyprus the Turks will see reality just like they did in 1821. So keep talking about cutting heads off because that makes you brave. Wow what uncomposed losers. Can you be more insecure

[YFred]

It seems to that the Turks on here can take the heat, it's pretty funny to me. his talking hard on the internet makes me laugh. You would never talk like that to my face. I'm sorry if facts scare you. As for Yankee Doodle Dandy. I was in the American military and we had to train with Turks or train them would better describe it. My personal experince is as follows. The TAF special forces could not keep up on a 14 mile run with us, they cried during cold water trainning, got lost on thier own trainng course during mock counter insurgent drill. Ohh but they were just like every other Turk just deny it and call yourself a stud maybe you could find a civilian to beat up.

This is what the Iraqis think of your brave forces in Iraq you murdering genocidal megalomaniacs.
If only what you say is true.

[AmericanGC]

oh please Youtube video now maybe you need a education. Go to school and live real life big guy.

[Nikitas]

YFred,

The counter argument to your point is, if Turkey is so super confident of its superiority why does it feel it needs to have 40 000 soldiers and 400 tanks with full air and naval support on Cyprus. The Americans hold a nation about the size of Turkey, and 30 million people, with barely three times as many soldiers and far fewer planes.

Obviously Turkey feels it must maintain this crushing local superiority because it fears to let go.

War is by definition umpredictable. If it was not no one would ever fight. So do not be too cocky that the Turkish army cannot be defeated, all armies can be defeated by anyone willing to pay the price. GCs are not, at the moment, willing to pay the price.

[YFred]

YFred,

The counter argument to your point is, if Turkey is so super confident of its superiority why does it feel it needs to have 40 000 soldiers and 400 tanks with full air and naval support on Cyprus. The Americans hold a nation about the size of Turkey, and 30 million people, with barely three times as many soldiers and far fewer planes.

Obviously Turkey feels it must maintain this crushing local superiority because it fears to let go.

War is by definition umpredictable. If it was not no one would ever fight. So do not be too cocky that the Turkish army cannot be defeated, all armies can be defeated by anyone willing to pay the price. GCs are not, at the moment, willing to pay the price.

Nikitas, Turkish troops in Cyprus are less than 25000, don't believe all the crap
Far from being cocky, I am sick of hearing how good the CNG is. I know what they will do as soon as the war begins, it has nothing to do with weaponary. Fighting for what you believe in comes from the heart, and one thing for sure is the bravery of the average mehmetcik.

[Viewpoint]

It seems to that the Turks on here can take the heat, it's pretty funny to me. his talking hard on the internet makes me laugh. You would never talk like that to my face. I'm sorry if facts scare you. As for Yankee Doodle Dandy. I was in the American military and we had to train with Turks or train them would better describe it. My personal experince is as follows. The TAF special forces could not keep up on a 14 mile run with us, they cried during cold water trainning, got lost on thier own trainng course during mock counter insurgent drill. Ohh but they were just like every other Turk just deny it and call yourself a stud maybe you could find a civilian to beat up.

Lets hope they dont have to run after you then, man you have the advantage all round..Im sure they are shaking in their boots.