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How can we solve it? (keep it civilized)

Do u agree with the fool that a war will resolve the Cyprus problem once and for all?

YES
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NO
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Total votes : 34

Postby Get Real! » Fri Oct 09, 2009 8:43 pm

insan wrote:
Get Real! wrote:PS: France has enough nuclear missiles to blow the planet to smithereens many times over, and a space program (Ariane) that craps all over NASA!

http://www.arianespace.com/index/index.asp


And not to mention the world renowned French Legionnaires…

http://www.legion-recrute.com/en/


And they are the manufacturers of the world’s best fighter jets…

http://www.dassault-aviation.com/en/aviation.html?L=1


So, yes… she’s a “superpower”! :D


Is France foolishly behind the "new Byzantium Empire" project, too? :lol: GAWD world full of fools!!! :lol: R we going through a ww3? :?

Insan, your Turkish Cypriot friends have been waiting in anticipation for you to post something informative and/or witty in a thread/poll you started but so far all you’ve given us is the repeated… “GR is a fool!”

So, if you have nothing else to post then maybe you should call it a day and let someone else have a go... :wink:
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Postby purdey » Fri Oct 09, 2009 8:43 pm

I will leave it to you GR. I am a boots on ground man, I have been known to jump out of a few flying coffins though.
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Postby denizaksulu » Fri Oct 09, 2009 8:52 pm

Paphitis wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
Paphitis wrote:Australia has the capability to render Greece's American arsenal and guidance systems redundant!

Will you PLEASE knock it off??? :?

I don't think anyone else here is interested in what Australia can or cannot do... FFS! :roll:


Your the one that posted those ludicrous links and then made the very far fetched statement that Greece is even capable of fighting Australia... :lol:

Greece could not even fire upon Australia, but Australia could attack Greek territory no problem! 8)



Do I dare ask Paphitis 'on whose side would he fight' if war broke out between Oz and Greece? or Oz and United States of Cyprus? :?
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Postby insan » Fri Oct 09, 2009 9:09 pm

Get Real! wrote:
insan wrote:
Get Real! wrote:PS: France has enough nuclear missiles to blow the planet to smithereens many times over, and a space program (Ariane) that craps all over NASA!

http://www.arianespace.com/index/index.asp


And not to mention the world renowned French Legionnaires…

http://www.legion-recrute.com/en/


And they are the manufacturers of the world’s best fighter jets…

http://www.dassault-aviation.com/en/aviation.html?L=1


So, yes… she’s a “superpower”! :D


Is France foolishly behind the "new Byzantium Empire" project, too? :lol: GAWD world full of fools!!! :lol: R we going through a ww3? :?

Insan, your Turkish Cypriot friends have been waiting in anticipation for you to post something informative and/or witty in a thread/poll you started but so far all you’ve given us is the repeated… “GR is a fool!”

So, if you have nothing else to post then maybe you should call it a day and let someone else have a go... :wink:


I put forth my opinions and counter arguements against the arguements of some other debaters on previous pages... when necessary, I'll keep coming with my opinions and counter arguements... So far 15 vs 11 ur arguement that "a military conflict would resolve Cyprus problem once and for all" hasn't been supported by majority of forumers. :D If majority rules; say thank u to all debaters and go have a nice sleep. 8) U couldn't get the consent of the CF parliament to wage a military conflict against TRNC. :lol:
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Postby Get Real! » Fri Oct 09, 2009 9:22 pm

insan wrote:I put forth my opinions and counter arguements against the arguements of some other debaters on previous pages... when necessary, I'll keep coming with my opinions and counter arguements... So far 15 vs 11 ur arguement that "a military conflict would resolve Cyprus problem once and for all" hasn't been supported by majority of forumers. :D If majority rules; say thank u to all debaters and go have a nice sleep. 8) U couldn't get the consent of the CF parliament to wage a military conflict against TRNC. :lol:

Read your poll question once again Insan…

“Do u agree with the fool that a war will resolve the Cyprus problem once and for all?”

So, all Turkish Cypriots like you, who feel that Turkey will obliterate the CNG in a short space of time and take full control of Cyprus and turn the island into a Turkic whatever they want… should’ve voted YES!

On the other hand, those of us who believe that a war against the CNG will drag on a lot longer than most anticipate, and ultimately have severe repercussions for Turkey’s overall standing in the world including the obligatory abandonment of the island, should also vote YES!

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Postby insan » Fri Oct 09, 2009 9:39 pm

Get Real! wrote:
insan wrote:I put forth my opinions and counter arguements against the arguements of some other debaters on previous pages... when necessary, I'll keep coming with my opinions and counter arguements... So far 15 vs 11 ur arguement that "a military conflict would resolve Cyprus problem once and for all" hasn't been supported by majority of forumers. :D If majority rules; say thank u to all debaters and go have a nice sleep. 8) U couldn't get the consent of the CF parliament to wage a military conflict against TRNC. :lol:

Read your poll question once again Insan…

“Do u agree with the fool that a war will resolve the Cyprus problem once and for all?”

So, all Turkish Cypriots like you, who feel that Turkey will obliterate the CNG in a short space of time and take full control of Cyprus and turn the island into a Turkic whatever they want… should’ve voted YES!

On the other hand, those of us who believe that a war against the CNG will drag on a lot longer than most anticipate, and ultimately have severe repercussions for Turkey’s overall standing in the world including the obligatory abandonment of the island, should also vote YES!

:wink:


Is this an attempt to try hiding urself behind ur little fingers, GR? :?
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Postby YFred » Fri Oct 09, 2009 9:45 pm

denizaksulu wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
Paphitis wrote:Australia has the capability to render Greece's American arsenal and guidance systems redundant!

Will you PLEASE knock it off??? :?

I don't think anyone else here is interested in what Australia can or cannot do... FFS! :roll:


Your the one that posted those ludicrous links and then made the very far fetched statement that Greece is even capable of fighting Australia... :lol:

Greece could not even fire upon Australia, but Australia could attack Greek territory no problem! 8)



Do I dare ask Paphitis 'on whose side would he fight' if war broke out between Oz and Greece? or Oz and United States of Cyprus? :?

It would be like putting him in circular room and asking him to sit in the corner.
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Postby wyoming cowboy » Fri Oct 09, 2009 10:12 pm

Im curious to see this plan or parts of it....
Get Real! wrote:Insan, I wrote about a Cyprus Vs Turkey war scenario on many occasions but you weren’t around to see them. So as not to repeat myself here are some past bits I can find on the issue…

Liberating Cyprus is not about declaring war on Turkey, but defeating the Turkish military infrastructure that is illegally stationed on the northern territory of Cyprus, otherwise known as the “TRNC”. For such an undertaking to be successful one would need to encompass the denial of any further Turkish reinforcements to the island once the operation gets underway.

This could either be achieved by a bribed superpower such as France stationing her navy between Cyprus and Turkey but having no further involvement, or through the early removal of all ports including naval, airstrips, and helipads, leaving only flimsy aerial drops to be dealt with by SAMs.

The Turkish military hardware currently stationed in the “TRNC” is pretty much equivalent to that of the National Guard of Cyprus in terms of quality and number so it would be as fair a confrontation as you can get under the circumstances, with the exception that the RoC will also have to utilize a fair number of their reserves, and of course once the National Guard of Cyprus reaches Kyrenia and hoists the RoC flag, which they are more than capable of accomplishing if Turkish reinforcements are successfully denied, UN resolution 353 (1974) will have been enforced as dictated by international law.


I have since also written a detailed operations plan I’ve never posted here but have submitted to the RoC government for their perusal. :lol:
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Postby Paphitis » Sat Oct 10, 2009 4:32 am

Oracle wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
Oracle wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
Paphitis wrote:Australia has the capability to render Greece's American arsenal and guidance systems redundant!

Will you PLEASE knock it off??? :?

I don't think anyone else here is interested in what Australia can or cannot do... FFS! :roll:


Your the one that posted those ludicrous links and then made the very far fetched statement that Greece is even capable of fighting Australia... :lol:

Greece could not even fire upon Australia, but Australia could destroy attack Greek territory no problem! 8)


Considering Australian society is made up of (1) intelligent, wealthy, educated Greeks and Cypriots; and (2) beer swilling, petty thieves and curry eaters ... then guess what your turnout for such a scenario would be ... :lol:

No doubt the decent Greeks and Cypriots would not deem to touch Greece ... but I'm not so sure about you, anymore :?


There are no Greeks or Cypriots in Australia Oracle. There are just persons with Greek names, as Australia has successfully claimed their souls.

The so called intelligent Greeks and Cypriots swill beer like real troopers... :lol:

Some so called intelligent Cypriots have also betrayed Cyprus for a few bucks, and if they did that to Cyprus then they would surely do it to Australia, so we have no use for these treasonous cowards and Cyprus is more than welcome to have them back.... :evil:

but I'm not so sure about you, anymore :?


Well, I am disappointed that you would say that... :?


Oracle wrote:
Well look at the pride you exhibit at the possibility of Australia attacking/destroying Greece. :roll:


No not at all.

I don't exhibit any pride at the possibility of Australia attacking Greece. The chance of this happening is non existent as the 2 are traditional allies and always have been. We were discussing war scenarios and what ifs....and that was initiated by GR!, and not me.

In fact, Australians sacrificed much their own and many died in Greece fighting the Nazis in the Battle of Crete, and Australia would probably help out once again if it was required to do so.

Every year the Royal Australian Navy sails to Crete with the Australian and White Ensign at half mast, and call into port. The welcome the Australians witness in Crete is so heart warming and moving. It is almost as if they consider these Aussies as their very own. This is because when Australian troops were on the island fighting the Germans and lost the battle, Greek peasants were hiding Australians in their simple basements or barns, Greek shepherds were escorting Australians to the the rendezvous point for urgent evacuation. The Greeks risked their own lives to save Australian service personnel, and the ADF has not forgotten and this is why the ADF will respectfully visit their Greek friends every year and to also remember the fallen.

If my posts shock you, then I have achieved my objective. Because it is people like YOU who must be vigilant to the antics of YOUR politicians, because many of them are so easily bought to serve anti RoC initiatives.

Paphitis wrote:
Paphitis wrote:Greece could not even fire upon Australia, but Australia could destroy attack Greek territory no problem! 8)


Oracle wrote:
First you (unfoundedly) rip into Cyprus in another thread, and now Greece. Fine if you've decided your allegiance is purely with Australia but don't expect us to accept criticism without comment.


Let's say I start a thread criticising Australia's involvement in Iraq or Afghanistan. This does not mean I am ripping into Australia, as I could never do that, but it means that I wish to offer some constructive criticism. And I offer this criticism out of love and because I may see some room for improvement.

The same can be said about both Greece and Cyprus. But having said this, I am not a Greek citizen. I love Greece because we are ethnically and culturally similar, but Greece is not my country. So any allegiance can only be towards the RoC, first and foremost, whilst respecting Greece as just a mere ally and perhaps even a sister nation.

And yes, my allegiance is to Australia as well as the RoC. I don't understand why you find this unusual. But just because I long for both of them, does not mean either are immune from my constructive criticism as I deem fit. You are most welcome to reply and I expect nothing less.

So don't be so sensitive Oracle, because Christofias visit to Cuba and your adulation towards Fidel Castro has been so amusing to me. I still can't stop laughing at your third world antics. Fancy bypassing both Canada and the US in order to meet Fidel Castro as if to say he is a role model the RoC respects! Hilarious! :lol: :lol: :lol:

You will open threads of adulation towards Stalin and Hitler next.... :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Postby Paphitis » Sat Oct 10, 2009 4:38 am

insan wrote:
Simon wrote:
Get Real! wrote:Ok, we’ve got a Australia Vs Greece, a Britain Vs Turkey, and does anyone else want to throw in another combination so we can TOTALLY derail the thread? :?

How about a Morocco Vs Laos… any takers? 8)


Britain, Greece and Turkey are all very relevant in any war scenario, as all are guarantors with military bases in Cyprus. God knows what Australia has to do with anything though.


GR claims that a "super-power" :lol: such as France could be "bribed" to support a possible GC military offensive against TRNC. What would be the bribe by the way? Giving away the 80% of the so-called oil reserves of Cyprus to France? :lol: :lol:


Oil and Gas can bribe anyone!
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