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Postby Paphitis » Thu Oct 08, 2009 4:09 pm

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Paphitis wrote:But I seriously believe that NZ is an important enough country to have its own RoC embassy.


Then do a thread on that since your attempt to rubbish Castro and Cyprus' embassy has proven a non-starter! :lol:


Georgian refugees returning to their rightful homes is also a non starter according to Cypriots... :lol:

Furthermore Oracle, I am thinking of starting a dedication to Christofias.

The thread will be titled, "Is Christofias a corrupt politician?"

I have found out that some self made Cypriot millionaires in Australia, have received some housing subsidies due to their refugee status, just because they classify themselves as "Communists" or have AKEL membership cards. :lol:

Can you give me some advice? :lol:

Is this Cypriot nepotism at its best or what? :roll:
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Postby Oracle » Thu Oct 08, 2009 4:14 pm

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Paphitis wrote:But I seriously believe that NZ is an important enough country to have its own RoC embassy.


Then do a thread on that since your attempt to rubbish Castro and Cyprus' embassy has proven a non-starter! :lol:


Georgian refugees returning to their rightful homes is also a non starter according to Cypriots... :lol:

Furtherore Oracle, I am thinking of starting a dedication about Christofias.

The thread will be titled, "Is Christofias a corrupt politician?"

I have found out that some self made Cypriot millionaires in Australia, have received some housing subsidies due to their refugee status, just because they classify themselves as "Communists" or have AKEL membership cards. :lol:

Can you give me some advice? :lol:


I would spend a lot more time doing some further research before you come a cropper again and do some unnecessary damage to Cyprus along the way ... :roll:

Can you give me some advice?


This isn't the time to be pissing about ....
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Postby Paphitis » Thu Oct 08, 2009 4:24 pm

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Paphitis wrote:But I seriously believe that NZ is an important enough country to have its own RoC embassy.


Then do a thread on that since your attempt to rubbish Castro and Cyprus' embassy has proven a non-starter! :lol:


Georgian refugees returning to their rightful homes is also a non starter according to Cypriots... :lol:

Furtherore Oracle, I am thinking of starting a dedication about Christofias.

The thread will be titled, "Is Christofias a corrupt politician?"

I have found out that some self made Cypriot millionaires in Australia, have received some housing subsidies due to their refugee status, just because they classify themselves as "Communists" or have AKEL membership cards. :lol:

Can you give me some advice? :lol:


I would spend a lot more time doing some further research before you come a cropper again and do some unnecessary damage to Cyprus along the way ... :roll:

Can you give me some advice?


This isn't the time to be pissing about ....


Oracle, Cypriots will always end up with the Governments they deserve if they do not stand up and fight corruption.

I would not open a thread like this if there was nothing that was seriously bothering me about the integrity of your politicians.

Apparently, the trick is to sign a building contract with a Cypriot developer (Koumbaro), go for a holiday to Cyprus, and then apply for the refugee grant, with proof of AKEL allegiance. Normally, refugees living abroad are not entitled to anything, unless they move back to Cyprus, but that law does not apply to AKEL supporters it would seem.

I think your media needs to get to the bottom of all this, because this is quite serious. :roll:

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I would spend a lot more time doing some further research before you come a cropper again and do some unnecessary damage to Cyprus along the way ... :roll:


I think you have come a cropper for opening threads of endearment about Fidel Castro. Also, I can't see how I am doing any damage to Cyprus by mentioning the fact that some Australian Cypriot idiots, are ripping off the Cypriot taxpayer because of their refugee status and AKEL membership. And then they have the audacity to gloat!

The world is a dangerous place, not because of those that do evil, but because of those that stand back and do nothing!
Albert Einstein

Are you someone who stands back and does nothing Oracle? :?
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Postby Paphitis » Thu Oct 08, 2009 5:20 pm

CPJ urges EU leaders to take action in Cuba

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Postby Paphitis » Thu Oct 08, 2009 5:21 pm

Cuban journalist sentenced to three years in prison

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Postby Oracle » Fri Oct 09, 2009 1:31 am

Paphitis wrote:
Oracle wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
Oracle wrote:
Paphitis wrote:But I seriously believe that NZ is an important enough country to have its own RoC embassy.


Then do a thread on that since your attempt to rubbish Castro and Cyprus' embassy has proven a non-starter! :lol:


Georgian refugees returning to their rightful homes is also a non starter according to Cypriots... :lol:

Furtherore Oracle, I am thinking of starting a dedication about Christofias.

The thread will be titled, "Is Christofias a corrupt politician?"

I have found out that some self made Cypriot millionaires in Australia, have received some housing subsidies due to their refugee status, just because they classify themselves as "Communists" or have AKEL membership cards. :lol:

Can you give me some advice? :lol:


I would spend a lot more time doing some further research before you come a cropper again and do some unnecessary damage to Cyprus along the way ... :roll:

Can you give me some advice?


This isn't the time to be pissing about ....


Oracle, Cypriots will always end up with the Governments they deserve if they do not stand up and fight corruption.

I would not open a thread like this if there was nothing that was seriously bothering me about the integrity of your politicians.

Apparently, the trick is to sign a building contract with a Cypriot developer (Koumbaro), go for a holiday to Cyprus, and then apply for the refugee grant, with proof of AKEL allegiance. Normally, refugees living abroad are not entitled to anything, unless they move back to Cyprus, but that law does not apply to AKEL supporters it would seem.

I think your media needs to get to the bottom of all this, because this is quite serious. :roll:

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I would spend a lot more time doing some further research before you come a cropper again and do some unnecessary damage to Cyprus along the way ... :roll:


I think you have come a cropper for opening threads of endearment about Fidel Castro. Also, I can't see how I am doing any damage to Cyprus by mentioning the fact that some Australian Cypriot idiots, are ripping off the Cypriot taxpayer because of their refugee status and AKEL membership. And then they have the audacity to gloat!

The world is a dangerous place, not because of those that do evil, but because of those that stand back and do nothing!
Albert Einstein

Are you someone who stands back and does nothing Oracle? :?


As I said, do your research first before posting and looking ridiculous like you have just done with this thread. AKEL have not been in power nearly long enough for anyone to accomplish so much from any loopholes ... So, be careful as you could be insulting a lot of refugees who deserve all our help, no matter whether you classify them as millionaires or not. It should not be a means-tested system anyway, as their losses are NOT just monetary.

As for my thread. It was in General Chat and centered on getting to know more about Cuba whilst the President was over there to offer monetary assistance and open the Embassy (which you now must agree was not such an unusual thing to do, :lol: since ALL the EU member countries have done the same). So, where exactly did I come a cropper?

If you are referring to "baby-come-fly-with-me" and Z4 discussing their prostitution business, that is an unfortunate derailment from posting in General Chat and fortunately Admin locked it to stop them degrading the content further.

We all want to help where we can ... but get your facts straight first and don't depend on the gossip network!
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Postby Paphitis » Fri Oct 09, 2009 9:56 am

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As I said, do your research first before posting and looking ridiculous like you have just done with this thread.


It is you that appears ridiculous, because as it turns out, some people here in Australia who are members of an AKEL affiliated association called Platones, were boasting about Christofias ascendancy in power and how he had some how permitted some of them to rort the system by obtaining refugee housing grants to pay for their rental properties in Australia.

Even if this was an exaggeration, and even if I am entirely mistaken, it is still your duty as a citizen of the RoC, and as a person who has the interests of the RoC at heart, to investigate these allegations, and if found to be true, then condemn them.

The onus is not on me to obtain any evidence, because it is not as if this type of corruption or law breaking is going to be published on the internet with evidence of under the table monetary transfers to AKEL supporters and traitors to Cyprus.

No one can claim to support the RoC as a state, and that they fight for justice in Cyprus when at the same time your break RoC laws and rip off the public purse or taxpayer. This is treasonous...

Do not be so one eyed Oracle, and condemn injustice wherever you see it. Christofias is just another person, whereas the RoC is sacred and deserves our attention and respect. I would do the same if Tassos was still alive and in power, even though I thought he was a most brilliant man. But even brilliant men make mistakes sometimes...:wink:

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AKEL have not been in power nearly long enough for anyone to accomplish so much from any loopholes ...


This is not a loophole, because if it was a loophole, then treasonous Cypriots would have defrauded the RoC when Tassos Papadopoulos was in power.

This did not occur, because Tassos did not allow the abuse of RoC laws for poltical expediancy.

Only some very "privileged" Cypriot traitors who have affiliations with AKEL(Platones) were permitted to steal money from the RoC when Christofias came to power.

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So, be careful as you could be insulting a lot of refugees who deserve all our help, no matter whether you classify them as millionaires or not. It should not be a means-tested system anyway, as their losses are NOT just monetary.


This has absolutely nothing to do with the majority of refugees, because those that live in Cyprus permanently are fully entitled to RoC financial assistance. This is their legal right, and this right is not means tested.

Cypriot refugees living abroad however, are not entitled to anything according to RoC laws, but since Christofias came to power, some Cypriot traitors have been allowed this assistance even though they do not satisfy the criteria.

If I was a refugee and did that, then I could not live with myself. The shame of this treason would be just too much, as effectively I would be pissing on the RoC and every single law abiding RoC citizen.

You as a citizen of the RoC should be very upset, since some uneducated donkeys living abroad have been allowed to effectively spit on the RoC and laugh all the way to the bank....:roll:

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As for my thread. It was in General Chat and centered on getting to know more about Cuba whilst the President was over there to offer monetary assistance and open the Embassy (which you now must agree was not such an unusual thing to do, :lol: since ALL the EU member countries have done the same). So, where exactly did I come a cropper?


Opening an embassy in Cuba is indeed a very unusual thing to do, especially for a country the size of Cyprus. As you know, Cyprus has limited diplomatic resources and does not have the capacity to open embassies in every country. This means that the RoC will always be left with huge gaping holes within its diplomatic apparatus.

There are many countries where Cyprus does not provide dedicated Consular Services. New Zealand, Indonesia, are just 2 of the top of my head. Both countries are more deserving. NZ because of its international influence, and Indonesia because it is the world's largest Islamic nation and member of the OIC.

I saw your thread and I liked it to be honest. The only thing I can't comprehend is how you portrayed Fidel Castro as someone to be admired. But what gets to me even more is how others an be so hypocritical by sometimes rightfully condemning US, Israel, and others and then express adulation to some other tyrants such as Fidel Castro, Ahmadinejad, or even Osama Bin Laden. :roll:

This is one statement in your thread, I found very amusing:

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Yeah wow! :D Very Happy Little Cyprus sending a ship all that way and helping avert World War III. We are a mouse that roars! Cool 8)


You need to be reminded that Cyprus is facing its current predicament because of this roar, because it is this very roar that startled the elephant causing it to stomp on the RoC, causing oblivion.

Do not startle this elephant again!

Our non alignment since the inception of the RoC has bought upon us the biggest calamity the island has ever faced. Makarios should have applied to join NATO between 60-63, because it is the west that are our traditional allies, and not Cuba, Iran or the former Soviet Union.

Christofias is now making the same mistakes by refusing to apply for membership within the PfP.

Don't sit on the fence Oracle, because you will end up with splinters up your arse...:lol:

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If you are referring to "baby-come-fly-with-me" and Z4 discussing their prostitution business, that is an unfortunate derailment from posting in General Chat and fortunately Admin locked it to stop them degrading the content further.


Perhaps they were referring to the fact that Fidel Castro is responsible for the economic sanctions and isolation of Cuba from the rest of the world, resulting in most Cubans living well below the poverty line and without a means to supporting their families, resulting in many women being forced into prostitution or the sex slave trade in order to feed themselves and family.

You should be ashamed for recklessly mocking this very sad state of affairs that Fidel Castro has brought upon his people...

http://havanajournal.com/culture/entry/ ... ostitutes/

http://www.uri.edu/artsci/wms/hughes/cuba.htm

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We all want to help where we can ... but get your facts straight first and don't depend on the gossip network!


You could help by trying to find out if what I state is true. As stated above, the beneficiaries of these funds have gloated about their ill gotten financial gains, and this deserves to be investigated by those Cypriots that really do care about the RoC.

Now if you excuse me, you need to stop derailing this thread, so that I can undo some damage by trashing Fidel Castro's undeserved good name on CF.... :lol:
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Postby Oracle » Fri Oct 09, 2009 1:28 pm

Paphitis wrote: ... It is you that appears ridiculous, because as it turns out, some people here in Australia who are members of an AKEL affiliated association called Platones, were boasting about Christofias ascendancy in power and how he had some how permitted some of them to rort the system by obtaining refugee housing grants to pay for their rental properties in Australia.



I'll say it once again ... stop listening to boasts and gossip if the result of your recklessness will negatively affect Cyprus.

I have no problem with facts ... but your hunches are far from that!
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Postby Paphitis » Fri Oct 09, 2009 1:33 pm

Oracle wrote:
Paphitis wrote: ... It is you that appears ridiculous, because as it turns out, some people here in Australia who are members of an AKEL affiliated association called Platones, were boasting about Christofias ascendancy in power and how he had some how permitted some of them to rort the system by obtaining refugee housing grants to pay for their rental properties in Australia.



Oracle wrote:
I'll say it once again ... stop listening to boasts and gossip if the result of your recklessness will negatively affect Cyprus.


These same boasts were from more than one source! :roll:

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I have no problem with facts ...


Then go and try to find the facts for me! It is your duty as a RoC citizen!

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but your hunches are far from that!


Are you talking about your hunch that my argument is baseless?

Prove it. It would be great if you prove me wrong so that we don't need to worry. But the fact is, some people in Australia who claim to have defrauded the Cypriot people don't have the brains to at least keep their big mouths shut!
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