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Postby Paphitis » Fri Oct 09, 2009 10:26 am

Gregory wrote:
Bananiot wrote:Rolandis was the first minister to hand in his resignation after dissagreeing with Spyros Kyprianou. He did the honorable thing. Not many Cypriots are capable of doing this. Christos Stylianides did the same recently but of course both were "yes" people. One would expect such people to do the right thing. It comes natural to them.

Oh, and they do not have a foul mouth either nor do they hide behind nicks.


just saying its strange how it took him 5 years as foreign minister to work out that he was being used by Kyprianou. Thats a whole term in office, I wouldn't really call that a resignation of principle. Rather one that says.."I've been on the gravy train for 5 years, looks like the old man is gonna replace me for the new term if he gets re-elected, might as well make a name for myself in case Clerides ever becomes President."

After serving a whole term in cabinet, this brave soul resigned.....Bravo!


Hello Gregory,

I agree with most of the things you say, but I am just wondering what it is you have against Spyros Kyprianou who formed the DIKO party, and was president of the RoC between 1977-1988? During these 11 years he was largely responsible for the RoC's unprecedented economic boom under very difficult circumstances.

Why was Spyros Kyprianou "hard line"?

Perhaps you missed my post to you in the preceding page...
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Postby Gregory » Fri Oct 09, 2009 10:32 am

Paphitis wrote:
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Bananiot wrote:Rolandis was the first minister to hand in his resignation after dissagreeing with Spyros Kyprianou. He did the honorable thing. Not many Cypriots are capable of doing this. Christos Stylianides did the same recently but of course both were "yes" people. One would expect such people to do the right thing. It comes natural to them.

Oh, and they do not have a foul mouth either nor do they hide behind nicks.


just saying its strange how it took him 5 years as foreign minister to work out that he was being used by Kyprianou. Thats a whole term in office, I wouldn't really call that a resignation of principle. Rather one that says.."I've been on the gravy train for 5 years, looks like the old man is gonna replace me for the new term if he gets re-elected, might as well make a name for myself in case Clerides ever becomes President."

After serving a whole term in cabinet, this brave soul resigned.....Bravo!


Hello Gregory,

I agree with most of the things you say, but I am just wondering what it is you have against Spyros Kyprianou who formed the DIKO party, and was president of the RoC between 1977-1988? During these 11 years he was largely responsible for the RoC's unprecedented economic boom under very difficult circumstances.

Why was Spyros Kyprianou "hard line"?

Perhaps you missed my post to you in the preceding page...

Sorry, I hadn't seen it.

I don't have anything against the Kyprianou government. Under the circumstances it performed admirably in reshaping and re-building the economy of Cyprus.

As far as hardline goes however if you read ambassador Zacharakis book regarding his term here in Cyprus (one of the most able diplomats Greece has ever had) you will find out first hand the weaknesses that Kyprianou had.

His fear of being out of sync with what Greece wanted, his need to speak with the Greek govt and the embassy of Greece twice a day. His hardline attitude with the unification talks and the plans that were presented to him.

It all adds up to a Presidency of crisis, paranoia, and amateurism. (paranoia turning easily into a hard line (better safe than sorry) attitude.

I cannot blame him for any of those however as he was only the 2nd President the Republic had known and the decade following the invasion was not easy.
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Postby Bananiot » Fri Oct 09, 2009 11:05 am

Rolandis resigned because he objected to the policies of Kyprianou on the Cyprob. Everybody knows this and there is no need to attempt to discredit the man, unless someone finds offensive his stance on the Cyprob and thus there must be an ulterior motive.

Gregory, I only responded as I did when I was summarily told
Asirkti malaka. You make me sick and ashamed to be a GC. When we have traitors like you amongst us, who needs the enemy?
by B25.

You have displayed acute sensitivity in my remarks but had nothing to say about the original perpetrator with the foul mouth. Permit me to question your motives and, yes, I did vote in favour of solution in 2004, along with 100 000 other Cypriots who dared to resist the ambient atmosphere at the time.
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They will turn on Papandreou next!!!

Postby cymart » Fri Oct 09, 2009 11:12 am

Don't be surprised if they do!After failing to force Downer the U.N. representative out of Cyprus these nutcases will be looking for a new scapegoat to direct their paranoic rantings against!
Could it be that they afraid the Cyprus problem just might be solved this time around and that would be the end for the armchair patriots,the rejectionists and the other people like them who have wasted the last 35 years trying to peddle trivia and nonesense?
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Re: They will turn on Papandreou next!!!

Postby YFred » Fri Oct 09, 2009 11:19 am

cymart wrote:Don't be surprised if they do!After failing to force Downer the U.N. representative out of Cyprus these nutcases will be looking for a new scapegoat to direct their paranoic rantings against!
Could it be that they afraid the Cyprus problem just might be solved this time around and that would be the end for the armchair patriots,the rejectionists and the other people like them who have wasted the last 35 years trying to peddle trivia and nonesense?

Spot on. It's exactly that.
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Postby Gregory » Fri Oct 09, 2009 1:03 pm

Bananiot wrote:Rolandis resigned because he objected to the policies of Kyprianou on the Cyprob. Everybody knows this and there is no need to attempt to discredit the man, unless someone finds offensive his stance on the Cyprob and thus there must be an ulterior motive.

Gregory, I only responded as I did when I was summarily told
Asirkti malaka. You make me sick and ashamed to be a GC. When we have traitors like you amongst us, who needs the enemy?
by B25.

You have displayed acute sensitivity in my remarks but had nothing to say about the original perpetrator with the foul mouth. Permit me to question your motives and, yes, I did vote in favour of solution in 2004, along with 100 000 other Cypriots who dared to resist the ambient atmosphere at the time.


Sorry Bananiot, I rarely respond to swearing (although am guilty of it once in a while if faced with someone who's behaviour deserves it.) so I usually skim through those posts.

I took you as a more rational individual which is why I picked up on the contradiction. Having gone through some of your posts however via the search function I do see a prevailing theme of naming and shaming Cypriot politicians who hold the opposite view of you as fascists and bigots.

Rolandis is an insignificant minion who failed as foreign secretary and admitted that after 5 years he had only JUST figured out Spyros was using him. Had the grandiose image of himself as Secretary General of THE UN!! and blamed the worlds anti-liberal movement at the time for his failure!!! And was angered by the oil exploration issue because as he reminded everyone "He discovered oil in Cyprus first" :roll: (lets find it first re Nico and then we can give you all the medals you want)


So in summary, unintelligent, insignificant, never commanded a following and to top it all off now writes for a paper financed by the "trnc" foreign ministry.
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Postby Oracle » Fri Oct 09, 2009 1:18 pm

Brilliant evaluation, Gregory.
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Postby Paphitis » Fri Oct 09, 2009 1:25 pm

Gregory wrote:
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Gregory wrote:
Bananiot wrote:Rolandis was the first minister to hand in his resignation after dissagreeing with Spyros Kyprianou. He did the honorable thing. Not many Cypriots are capable of doing this. Christos Stylianides did the same recently but of course both were "yes" people. One would expect such people to do the right thing. It comes natural to them.

Oh, and they do not have a foul mouth either nor do they hide behind nicks.


just saying its strange how it took him 5 years as foreign minister to work out that he was being used by Kyprianou. Thats a whole term in office, I wouldn't really call that a resignation of principle. Rather one that says.."I've been on the gravy train for 5 years, looks like the old man is gonna replace me for the new term if he gets re-elected, might as well make a name for myself in case Clerides ever becomes President."

After serving a whole term in cabinet, this brave soul resigned.....Bravo!


Hello Gregory,

I agree with most of the things you say, but I am just wondering what it is you have against Spyros Kyprianou who formed the DIKO party, and was president of the RoC between 1977-1988? During these 11 years he was largely responsible for the RoC's unprecedented economic boom under very difficult circumstances.

Why was Spyros Kyprianou "hard line"?

Perhaps you missed my post to you in the preceding page...

Sorry, I hadn't seen it.

I don't have anything against the Kyprianou government. Under the circumstances it performed admirably in reshaping and re-building the economy of Cyprus.

As far as hardline goes however if you read ambassador Zacharakis book regarding his term here in Cyprus (one of the most able diplomats Greece has ever had) you will find out first hand the weaknesses that Kyprianou had.

His fear of being out of sync with what Greece wanted, his need to speak with the Greek govt and the embassy of Greece twice a day. His hardline attitude with the unification talks and the plans that were presented to him.

It all adds up to a Presidency of crisis, paranoia, and amateurism. (paranoia turning easily into a hard line (better safe than sorry) attitude.

I cannot blame him for any of those however as he was only the 2nd President the Republic had known and the decade following the invasion was not easy.


Thanks Gregory.

I will look into that book by ambassador Zacharakis.
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Re: They will turn on Papandreou next!!!

Postby Get Real! » Fri Oct 09, 2009 1:36 pm

cymart wrote:Don't be surprised if they do!After failing to force Downer the U.N. representative out of Cyprus these nutcases will be looking for a new scapegoat to direct their paranoic rantings against!

Downer could be thrown off the island at a moment’s notice if that’s what the government wanted, but all they’re doing at this stage is questioning his integrity to act as a mediator in the Cyprus problem and there is plenty of evidence to back such suspicions/allegations.

Could it be that they afraid the Cyprus problem just might be solved this time around and that would be the end for the armchair patriots,the rejectionists and the other people like them who have wasted the last 35 years trying to peddle trivia and nonesense?

Could it be that someone on this forum is frustrated because the RoC is successfully fending off all Anglo-Turco-American plans against Cyprus? :lol:
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Downer etc...

Postby cymart » Fri Oct 09, 2009 2:48 pm

So this Australian guy has commited some heinous crime and should be black-listed according to some people like Get Real???The Americans,British,Rolandis,and no doubt soon Papandreou and even Christophias will be branded as traitors and the whole world has nothing to do all day other than sit and dream up ways to damage Cyprus,as if its the only country in the world they have to worry about???
Anyone who comes here and dares to express any opinion that these rejectionists don't agree with is always pillioried and called a traitor etc etc...
With this mentality Cyprus is doomed for sure!
They had this kind of attitude in Russia during Stalins time and still do in nasty little dictatorships in various countries around the world!
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