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[Hermes]

What punishment for the TMT who really held you under siege in the 60's? What punishment for Turkey who has held you under siege for nearly 4 decades?

T/Cs are suffering from "Stockholm syndrome" - a psychological response sometimes seen in abducted hostages, in which the hostage shows signs of loyalty to the hostage-taker, regardless of the danger or risk in which they have been placed. Some are even grateful for their captivity. It's a mass delusion very noticeable on these forums...

These little narrow minded snipes are like water off a ducks back...we made our choice in 1974 and it wasnt the GCs, we are willing to talk but if that fails we will fight for an easing of the islolation and ultimate recognition.

Once these gimmick talks are over, you will have wasted your last chance to save your pitiful arse from certain demise for you will commence being on the receiving end of the wrath of the Republic and its people…

You are totally wrong and we do not have to accept anything you say about the TRNC as it doesnt concern you its our business so you have no say. I think it will be you who will be sick to the stomach for lost chances and underestimating your opponent as you did in 1974...time to wake up and compromise you cant have everything your own way.

There is no "TRNC". There never was. It was just a mirage. The world has refused to accept your lie. Without recognition it is just a delusion. Like people in a lunatic asylum who believe they are Napoleon. No matter that they believe it, it is still a delusion. You are clinging onto a delusion. Time to leave the lies behind.

It is not solely your business what happens in the north. You are squatting on the land of the ROC. You cannot escape the law. The north is under the legal jurisdiction of the ROC. It is our business and the business of the international courts to return the land in the north to its rightful owners and to seek compensation for usurpation of our property. The law is clear. Thieves, murderers and rapists shall not prosper.

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What punishment for the TMT who really held you under siege in the 60's? What punishment for Turkey who has held you under siege for nearly 4 decades?

T/Cs are suffering from "Stockholm syndrome" - a psychological response sometimes seen in abducted hostages, in which the hostage shows signs of loyalty to the hostage-taker, regardless of the danger or risk in which they have been placed. Some are even grateful for their captivity. It's a mass delusion very noticeable on these forums...

These little narrow minded snipes are like water off a ducks back...we made our choice in 1974 and it wasnt the GCs, we are willing to talk but if that fails we will fight for an easing of the islolation and ultimate recognition.

Once these gimmick talks are over, you will have wasted your last chance to save your pitiful arse from certain demise for you will commence being on the receiving end of the wrath of the Republic and its people…

You are totally wrong and we do not have to accept anything you say about the TRNC as it doesnt concern you its our business so you have no say. I think it will be you who will be sick to the stomach for lost chances and underestimating your opponent as you did in 1974...time to wake up and compromise you cant have everything your own way.

There is no "TRNC". There never was. It was just a mirage. The world has refused to accept your lie. Without recognition it is just a delusion. Like people in a lunatic asylum who believe they are Napoleon. No matter that they believe it, it is still a delusion. You are clinging onto a delusion. Time to leave the lies behind.

It is not solely your business what happens in the north. You are squatting on the land of the ROC. You cannot escape the law. The north is under the legal jurisdiction of the ROC. It is our business and the business of the international courts to return the land in the north to its rightful owners and to seek compensation for usurpation of our property. The law is clear. Thieves, murderers and rapists shall not prosper.

Then the police you meet at the crossing and 40.000 soldiers must also be a mirage, what a jerk...you carry on becuase its you that needs an asylum.

[Hermes]

What punishment for the TMT who really held you under siege in the 60's? What punishment for Turkey who has held you under siege for nearly 4 decades?

T/Cs are suffering from "Stockholm syndrome" - a psychological response sometimes seen in abducted hostages, in which the hostage shows signs of loyalty to the hostage-taker, regardless of the danger or risk in which they have been placed. Some are even grateful for their captivity. It's a mass delusion very noticeable on these forums...

These little narrow minded snipes are like water off a ducks back...we made our choice in 1974 and it wasnt the GCs, we are willing to talk but if that fails we will fight for an easing of the islolation and ultimate recognition.

Once these gimmick talks are over, you will have wasted your last chance to save your pitiful arse from certain demise for you will commence being on the receiving end of the wrath of the Republic and its people…

You are totally wrong and we do not have to accept anything you say about the TRNC as it doesnt concern you its our business so you have no say. I think it will be you who will be sick to the stomach for lost chances and underestimating your opponent as you did in 1974...time to wake up and compromise you cant have everything your own way.

There is no "TRNC". There never was. It was just a mirage. The world has refused to accept your lie. Without recognition it is just a delusion. Like people in a lunatic asylum who believe they are Napoleon. No matter that they believe it, it is still a delusion. You are clinging onto a delusion. Time to leave the lies behind.

It is not solely your business what happens in the north. You are squatting on the land of the ROC. You cannot escape the law. The north is under the legal jurisdiction of the ROC. It is our business and the business of the international courts to return the land in the north to its rightful owners and to seek compensation for usurpation of our property. The law is clear. Thieves, murderers and rapists shall not prosper.

Then the police you meet at the crossing and 40.000 soldiers must also be a mirage, what a jerk...you carry on becuase its you that needs an asylum.

Mate, there have been 40,000 troops in northern Cyprus for 35 years and still no-one recognises it. The rest of the world only recognises the ROC as the legitimate government of the whole island. No matter how many troops and settlers you import, this doesn't change the legal status of the island or its citizens. Troops can't bring you recognition.

You can call yourselves the "TRNC" but it means jack-shit. I can call myself Napoleon if I want and they'd lock me up because I was insane. Same thing.

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You have every right to call yourself any shit you want but you have no rights or control in the TRNC of course its a mirage according to your sanity. people are laughing at you try and be a bit more serious you are looking like a real idiot.

[Hermes]

You have every right to call yourself any shit you want but you have no rights or control in the TRNC of course its a mirage according to your sanity. people are laughing at you try and be a bit more serious you are looking like a real idiot.

I don't have the right to call myself anything I want. That is the point. There are laws and norms about what I can call myself. Just as there are international laws about the existence of states. If you go around calling yourself Napoleon and you have your own country then people will question your sanity and most likely lock you up. Similarly the "TRNC" only exists as a mass delusion in your heads. The more you go on about the "TRNC" the more likely you will end up going insane. It is time to give up the delusion and leave the world of fantasy behind. No-one takes you seriously so stop making the situation worse for yourselves.

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You have every right to call yourself any shit you want but you have no rights or control in the TRNC of course its a mirage according to your sanity. people are laughing at you try and be a bit more serious you are looking like a real idiot.

I don't have the right to call myself anything I want. That is the point. There are laws and norms about what I can call myself. Just as there are international laws about the existence of states. If you go around calling yourself Napoleon and you have your own country then people will question your sanity and most likely lock you up. Similarly the "TRNC" only exists as a mass delusion in your heads. The more you go on about the "TRNC" the more likely you will end up going insane. It is time to give up the delusion and leave the world of fantasy behind. No-one takes you seriously so stop making the situation worse for yourselves.

Hermes what do you expect to gain from the above statement??? the TRNC recognized or not exsists whether you like it or dont want to accept the reality the entity stares you right in the face and it aint going nowhere aslong as you continue to ignore it. You have to open your eyes and see that we to have rights just as much as you to this island and seeing that we cannot live together we have been living divided. If you want to uniteten you have to take us into consideration becuase without our say so ther ewill be no unification or right to property. The day you say these people also have a right to live on this island and not be forced to live under solely GC rule, only then will you be a step closer to finding solution. from here you appear incapable and blind to the realities which stare you right in the face.

If you rulings and resolutions can get you what you want you would have gotten it a long time ago bıt feel free to keep on collecting them as thats what they a collection of useless paper victories.

[Hermes]

You have every right to call yourself any shit you want but you have no rights or control in the TRNC of course its a mirage according to your sanity. people are laughing at you try and be a bit more serious you are looking like a real idiot.

I don't have the right to call myself anything I want. That is the point. There are laws and norms about what I can call myself. Just as there are international laws about the existence of states. If you go around calling yourself Napoleon and you have your own country then people will question your sanity and most likely lock you up. Similarly the "TRNC" only exists as a mass delusion in your heads. The more you go on about the "TRNC" the more likely you will end up going insane. It is time to give up the delusion and leave the world of fantasy behind. No-one takes you seriously so stop making the situation worse for yourselves.

Hermes what do you expect to gain from the above statement??? the TRNC recognized or not exsists whether you like it or dont want to accept the reality the entity stares you right in the face and it aint going nowhere aslong as you continue to ignore it. You have to open your eyes and see that we to have rights just as much as you to this island and seeing that we cannot live together we have been living divided. If you want to uniteten you have to take us into consideration becuase without our say so ther ewill be no unification or right to property. The day you say these people also have a right to live on this island and not be forced to live under solely GC rule, only then will you be a step closer to finding solution. from here you appear incapable and blind to the realities which stare you right in the face.

If you rulings and resolutions can get you what you want you would have gotten it a long time ago bıt feel free to keep on collecting them as thats what they a collection of useless paper victories.

Accepting the human rights of the Turkish Cypriots and accepting the existence of the "TRNC" are two completely different scenarios. Challenging the legality of the northern pseudo-state and pointing out its ridiculous delusions does not mean I deny the very real rights of Turkish Cypriots to live in peace in a unified island.

But when the "TRNC" and its adherents claim to assert their authority over land in the north gained at the expense of Greek Cypriot refugees then you should expect to face the full might of the law and my unyielding derision.

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Hermes

Accepting the human rights of the Turkish Cypriots and accepting the existence of the "TRNC" are two completely different scenarios. Challenging the legality of the northern pseudo-state and pointing out its ridiculous delusions does not mean I deny the very real rights of Turkish Cypriots to live in peace in a unified island.

The division is a direct result of the mistakes of the past to which you to contributed...its exactly because of those mistakes that we today cannot find a structure that will ensure everyones human rights, safety and shared democracy...so the TRNC is a direct results of your own actions it will remain in force as long as the GCs and TCs are not won over by anything new plan put before them, never forget we have just as much right and weight as you do, so under no circumstancies will you be able to move forward without our say so.

[Hermes]

Hermes

Accepting the human rights of the Turkish Cypriots and accepting the existence of the "TRNC" are two completely different scenarios. Challenging the legality of the northern pseudo-state and pointing out its ridiculous delusions does not mean I deny the very real rights of Turkish Cypriots to live in peace in a unified island.

The division is a direct result of the mistakes of the past to which you to contributed...its exactly because of those mistakes that we today cannot find a structure that will ensure everyones human rights, safety and shared democracy...so the TRNC is a direct results of your own actions it will remain in force as long as the GCs and TCs are not won over by anything new plan put before them, never forget we have just as much right and weight as you do, so under no circumstancies will you be able to move forward without our say so.

The "TRNC" is the consequence of Turkey's partitionist agenda since the 1950s. The ROC rejects this agenda and will accept no deal that legitimises the occupation. Turkey needs a solution in Cyprus so that it can join the EU. That solution needs to satisfy the G/Cs as without our consent Turkey cannot join the EU.

If Turkey is serious about joining the EU then it will have to cut a deal on Cyprus. Any other alternative kills its EU ambitions stone dead. The question is: how badly does Turkey want to join the EU? Under no circumstances will Turkey be able to move forward without our say so.

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Hermes

Accepting the human rights of the Turkish Cypriots and accepting the existence of the "TRNC" are two completely different scenarios. Challenging the legality of the northern pseudo-state and pointing out its ridiculous delusions does not mean I deny the very real rights of Turkish Cypriots to live in peace in a unified island.

The division is a direct result of the mistakes of the past to which you to contributed...its exactly because of those mistakes that we today cannot find a structure that will ensure everyones human rights, safety and shared democracy...so the TRNC is a direct results of your own actions it will remain in force as long as the GCs and TCs are not won over by anything new plan put before them, never forget we have just as much right and weight as you do, so under no circumstancies will you be able to move forward without our say so.

The "TRNC" is the consequence of Turkey's partitionist agenda since the 1950s. The ROC rejects this agenda and will accept no deal that legitimises the occupation. Turkey needs a solution in Cyprus so that it can join the EU. That solution needs to satisfy the G/Cs as without our consent Turkey cannot join the EU.

If Turkey is serious about joining the EU then it will have to cut a deal on Cyprus. Any other alternative kills its EU ambitions stone dead. The question is: how badly does Turkey want to join the EU? Under no circumstances will Turkey be able to move forward without our say so.

Turkey's EU accession has nothing to do with Cyprus problem. Turco-Phobic and islamo-phobic EU countries will always look for excuses and moreover create obstacles for Turkey, in order not to allow her become a full EU member.

Turkey's efforts of EU accession arise from her western politics which in essential is one of the ROT's basic principles. Turkey has already built up the first step of the Asian alliance by getting into multifaceted and deep relations with 3 Turkic states... In 2 to 5 years u will witness to the establishment of Asian Union. This union won't let greedy Europeans to steal the rich natural resources of Asia...

As for Cyprus, don't see yourself in giant's mirror... in 1 to 2 years the parameters of the solution of Cyprus problem will be changed. It is cyrstal clear to everyone that a solution acceptable to both GC and TC people is not possible...